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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Given static produces similar field effects to the emp associated with living near high tension wires (electrical grid distribution lines) and there are hug concerns right now that living too close represents a health concern.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

Given static produces similar field effects to the emp associated with living near high tension wires (electrical grid distribution lines) and there are hug concerns right now that living too close represents a health concern.


Junk science. look up "Sharpshooter Fallacy

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Actually, it was probably closer to 50 MPG, as it was a 3 cylinder.

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

It was light enough that my coworkers, who dubbed it a "pregnant go-cart," picked it up and moved it from one end of the parking lot to another. I didn't see it happen, so I don't know how many guys were involved.

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That Finnish study about EM fields/cancer has long since been discredited. Classic Sharpshooter Fallacy regarding the "statistical analysis" of the data

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ORIGINAL: MasterSlaveLA
HA... I watched four guys do the same thing to a friend's BMW 325 years ago --

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Nobody is 325 years old.

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ORIGINAL: joether

Lets just say for the hell of the discussion two things are true:

A) Tesla's idea could be used in replacement to current energy uses for vehicles on America's roads (not to mention elsewhere).

B) There are no long term health effects on humans, other animals, plants, small types of living stuff (i.e. ants), and doesnt cause adverse problems to the weather, tempatures, or damage to the water/soil/air.

It would create some ionized air, which is that nice fresh smell that you get after an electrical storm.

Just who would run such a device? A company? The Goverment? If its a company, how much political power would they have over the goverment and the lives of tens of millions of Americans? Could they just 'turn off the power' if they dont get what they want? How regulated would they have to be? How do we know the company isnt secretly controlling the goverment and than takes over other companies resulting in a epic-sized 'company town' that spans much of the United States and other nations?

Yes they can just turn off the power now, in fact jfk approved it in an eo. The only way that I can see this happening is through government and pressure and I mean lots of pressure from the public because there is no money in it because you cant meter it.

There is a 400,000 volt potential difference between the upper atmosphere and the earth. what tesla did is figger out how to drag it down and convert it. the earth produces this voltage through its own rotational friction so it is a never ending source of energy presently going to completely to waste while we suck carbon and smog so some asshole on an oil rig can hold us hostage to oil.

It will never happen unless the government is is forced into promoting it because the reason it was shit canned is that JPmorgan found out that not only will this thing transmit radio, television iand no days internet to ANY POINT ON THE PLANET it will also transmit ELECRTICAL POWER that "CANNOT BE METERED" and it is selfsustaining!

So when he found that out that ended teslas funding and with the war they did not want people talking transatlantic with an antenna the size of a beer barrel. Hence they burned teslas lab with all his papers, he cried, they demolished his towers, and like so many other inventors (moray with his uranium doped diodes comes to mind) that come up with stuff like this they are smart people and can take a hint and they disappear into obscurity.

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The whole notion sounds like a complete fantasy.

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Compare the energy used to trigger anything, a shot from a gun, a nuke etc. With just a little energy you can trigger a large reaction as long as you have enough fuel to burn whatever.

No. In thermodynamics, it depends on how you define your system. You are claiming that the input is the "little energy" and the output is that plus "enough fuel". That's okay for one-shot reactions, but we're talking continual, sustainable reactions here, and you cannot simply deplete unaccounted-for masses of fuel.

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what about a machine gun with an endless supply of rounds? The planet has the equivalent of an endless supply of rounds, it was only an analogy.

No matter how we want to reduce it, it still comes down to in v out. I do not think anyone knows preceisely for sure what is going on. Most theories lean toward the conversion of neutrinos to useable power.

No way. Claiming that there's a discrepancy and that the difference must be some kind of low-temp nuclear reaction was the basis for "cold fusion" claims at the University of Utah. Turned out to be bad measurement. I'm biased toward bad measurement in this case as well.

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Well Los Alamos did the test and unlike the geniuses at MIT who were gettting funding for hot fusion were able to get it to work just fine. The production of tritium pretty much tells the story and IF you crank up the voltage you will burn out your geiger counter you get so much radiation. On the other hand you can run it at low amperage and it makes a great heater LOL

If you imagine it like a vacuum cleaner sucking in energy as it operates is the easiest way to conceptualize it.

That's something different. You're describing a heat pump here, such as a refrigerator. If that were indeed the case, then the reaction would fuel itself by drawing heat from the surrounding air. But that doesn't just "happen" because heat always goes from a warm place to a cold one unless it is forced to do differently due to deliberate design. (In a heat pump, phase changes and different pressures are used to make heat flow from cold to hot.)

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I had small cars for years... but have really grown to love the space/performance of mid-size cars.  As an aside, I've never really been a fan of Hyundai, but the new Hyundai Azera is pretty damn nice looking?!!

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

You stated they were exclusively telluric transmitters, as in they transmit through the ground rather than the air, and so my source was completely wrong. I'm afraid its you who is out of your depth old chap. Do you actually know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer is? Its an area of the atmosphere. Thus the signal is transmitted through the air.

the e layer? of course used to do short range transmission using the e layer and it is very undependable to say the least, contrary to the tesla devices.

Your argument simply doesn't follow. Tesla did not truly "invent" the system of electricity we use today. He developed and innovated an AC system, of the sort we use today. His competitors used DC.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

I should've been more clear... lack of sleep... ?

That Finnish study about EM fields/cancer has long since been discredited. Classic Sharpshooter Fallacy regarding the "statistical analysis" of the data.

The head of the Illooninati (TY Anax), CM chapter, has been raving about this goofy shit for eons. It's one of his delusions, along with "sovereignty", "allodial title", "maritime law", and other SS316/Niobium (hi-def half-speed remastered 200gm. virgin vinyl limited edition) "tin" foil hat wanknut idiocies.

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I had small cars for years... but have really grown to love the space/performance of mid-size cars.  As an aside, I've never really been a fan of Hyundai, but the new Hyundai Azera is pretty damn nice looking?!!

See, I just can't get excited about 20 / 29 / 23 (city / highway / combined). (Can that be right? Seems low.)

I could live with 42 MPG combined: http://www.lexus.com/models/CTh/features/performance.html 

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I can't buy new though; I have chemical sensitivities and the "new car smell" makes me sick. Once these have aged into affordability, I'd be interested: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_CT

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

In 2005, I intended to buy a Camry but the used ones didn't depreciate enough.

(But in general, you're correct.)