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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 7:35:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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You stated they were exclusively telluric transmitters, as in they transmit through the ground rather than the air, and so my source was completely wrong. I'm afraid its you who is out of your depth old chap. Do you actually know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer is? Its an area of the atmosphere. Thus the signal is transmitted through the air.

the e layer? of course used to do short range transmission using the e layer and it is very undependable to say the least, contrary to the tesla devices.

You are obfuscating yet again. You stated that the quote I pasted up agreed with your stance here http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4118340 - to reiterate what you said "They cant be all bad since they agreed with me, sure you aint out of your league here?" - you didn't know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer was or you wouldn't have said the quote I pasted agreed with your assertion Tesla's system was a Telluric transmitter. Now you seem to be pretending Tesla's system didn't plan to use this area of the atmosphere.

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Your argument simply doesn't follow. Tesla did not truly "invent" the system of electricity we use today. He developed and innovated an AC system, of the sort we use today. His competitors used DC.

the cool thing about word twisters is that they always bite themselves in the ass! LOL

My point was simple. Tesla's AC system was very innovative but it wasn't even remotely as radical as his plans to transmit energy. The system that worked relied on Faraday's fundamentals, with some practical innovations of his own which allowed his system of AC to succeed over the less efficient DC system. He didn't invent the system single-handedly.

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Why are we paying 5 bucks per gallon for gas when we have an infinite supply of selfsustaining power at our fingertips that is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN and GREEN! NO POLLUTION ZERO NADA!!

Yeah the free energy shit once again! Your whacko arguments go from "A" which is already well understood in the fucking class room to "W" with ilooninati science-fiction.

At a later time you may be able to improve your bullshit but for now you can't other than rehashing/pasting your Op with graphics to obfuscate, and misrepresent the opinions of others, because you lost the debate. Your little tricks are so predictable its time you innovated a few new ones - try to be inventive like your hero Tesla.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 9:02:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
You stated they were exclusively telluric transmitters, as in they transmit through the ground rather than the air, and so my source was completely wrong. I'm afraid its you who is out of your depth old chap. Do you actually know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer is? Its an area of the atmosphere. Thus the signal is transmitted through the air.

the e layer? of course used to do short range transmission using the e layer and it is very undependable to say the least, contrary to the tesla devices.

You are obfuscating yet again.

No you simply do not understand what I am talking about, get eith it already!
You stated that the quote I pasted up agreed with your stance here http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4118340 - to reiterate what you said "They cant be all bad since they agreed with me, sure you aint out of your league here?" - you didn't know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer was or you wouldn't have said the quote I pasted agreed with your assertion Tesla's system was a Telluric transmitter. Now you seem to be pretending Tesla's system didn't plan to use this area of the atmosphere.

You posted more than one quote.


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Your argument simply doesn't follow. Tesla did not truly "invent" the system of electricity we use today. He developed and innovated an AC system, of the sort we use today. His competitors used DC.

the cool thing about word twisters is that they always bite themselves in the ass! LOL

My point was simple. Tesla's AC system was very innovative but it wasn't even remotely as radical as his plans to transmit energy. The system that worked relied on Faraday's fundamentals, with some practical innovations of his own which allowed his system of AC to succeed over the less efficient DC system. He didn't invent the system single-handedly.

How do you figger that ac is more efficient than dc?

when someone invents something they are given the credit, you are mincing words circumventing the substance as usual.



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Why are we paying 5 bucks per gallon for gas when we have an infinite supply of selfsustaining power at our fingertips that is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN and GREEN! NO POLLUTION ZERO NADA!!

Yeah the free energy shit once again! Your whacko arguments go from "A" which is already well understood in the fucking class room to "W" with ilooninati science-fiction.

At a later time you may be able to improve your bullshit but for now you can't other than rehashing/pasting your Op with graphics to obfuscate, and misrepresent the opinions of others, because you lost the debate. Your little tricks are so predictable its time you innovated a few new ones - try to be inventive like your hero Tesla.

now now temper temper I told you that you may be out of your league but you insisted. The sun is free energy you know. Novel huh?



There is only one maybe 2 loonynatti's that I have seen so far in this thread.

Here is my previous post FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE that I put up for the hippie.

So einstein take your best shot at explaining the principals of how this works and no the power is not transmitted through the air.... good luck now.


In the videos these guys show you the several 220 and 120 volt bulbs they are using with no wires attached to them yet he is lighting them up.




he simply touches it to the copper pipe in the flower pot.

Now you care to explain how he can do that?




Oh but that is just some photo trickery right?

Well then here is light bulb from another guy using tesla technology;

As everyone who can read can see he has a standard 100 watt 120 volt halogen bulb.




and there he is showing the arcs and sparks from the tesla electricity that even lites up the table with a bluish glow.



just look at that spark!



OMG he stuck it in water and his hand too!

How can you explain that einstein?


Oh well lets not stop there!



Now he has each finger on the wires across the load!

Now if that were your house current it would have blown the meat right off your bones. But hey dont take my word for it PROVE IT TO YOURSELF! Plug your ass in! Yes yes you can!

Dont worry, you can tell yourself its just another iloominati conspiracy theory.

How about it electrical angleneers explain how this can happen, how do we light a 100 watt bulb pur our fingers across the load or even in series with the circuit (just like tesla did over 100 years ago) and not feel a damn thing?

What happened to physics? Why are we paying for high gas prices when we could have ENDLESS power that RENEWS ITSELF right from nature with a one time build of self sustainging towers around the world?

Are your governments really protecting YOUR best interests?

Why is he NOT getting a shock? A baby could hang on to both sides of the wire and never feel a thing! Why are people claiming its dangerous when it is demostratably NOT

Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale

Look mom I am touching the wires and no shock!

Explain how this works radiation people.

Excuse me while I gloat over this one more time!



So fucking awesome.

undeniable proof proof of concept!

Why is he NOT getting a shock?

Explain it.

How about it einstein?





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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 9:13:16 PM   
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More of R0's copy and paste horseshit that he keeps pulling when a thread isn't going his way. The experiments were explained by static electricity as is very fucking well known.
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
quote:

ORIGINAL: Real0ne
quote:

ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras
You stated they were exclusively telluric transmitters, as in they transmit through the ground rather than the air, and so my source was completely wrong. I'm afraid its you who is out of your depth old chap. Do you actually know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer is? Its an area of the atmosphere. Thus the signal is transmitted through the air.

the e layer? of course used to do short range transmission using the e layer and it is very undependable to say the least, contrary to the tesla devices.

You are obfuscating yet again.

No you simply do not understand what I am talking about, get eith it already!
You stated that the quote I pasted up agreed with your stance here http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4118340 - to reiterate what you said "They cant be all bad since they agreed with me, sure you aint out of your league here?" - you didn't know what the Kennelly–Heaviside layer was or you wouldn't have said the quote I pasted agreed with your assertion Tesla's system was a Telluric transmitter. Now you seem to be pretending Tesla's system didn't plan to use this area of the atmosphere.

You posted more than one quote.

You were referring to that specific quote as the link attests.

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quote:

quote:


Your argument simply doesn't follow. Tesla did not truly "invent" the system of electricity we use today. He developed and innovated an AC system, of the sort we use today. His competitors used DC.

the cool thing about word twisters is that they always bite themselves in the ass! LOL

My point was simple. Tesla's AC system was very innovative but it wasn't even remotely as radical as his plans to transmit energy. The system that worked relied on Faraday's fundamentals, with some practical innovations of his own which allowed his system of AC to succeed over the less efficient DC system. He didn't invent the system single-handedly.

How do you figger that ac is more efficient than dc?

when someone invents something they are given the credit, you are mincing words circumventing the substance as usual.

Its very well known Tesla's AC system was more efficient at the transmission of electricity than the competing DC system. Thats partly why it won out.


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quote:

Why are we paying 5 bucks per gallon for gas when we have an infinite supply of selfsustaining power at our fingertips that is CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN CLEAN and GREEN! NO POLLUTION ZERO NADA!!

Yeah the free energy shit once again! Your whacko arguments go from "A" which is already well understood in the fucking class room to "W" with ilooninati science-fiction.

At a later time you may be able to improve your bullshit but for now you can't other than rehashing/pasting your Op with graphics to obfuscate, and misrepresent the opinions of others, because you lost the debate. Your little tricks are so predictable its time you innovated a few new ones - try to be inventive like your hero Tesla.

now now temper temper I told you that you may be out of your league but you insisted. The sun is free energy you know. Novel huh?

I'm not angry, just amused at your shit, and you obfuscate more here. We were talking about the basic principle of energy in, energy out. The free energy ilooninati club you are a member of believes there is such a thing as free energy that circumvents that principle.


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There is only one maybe 2 loonynatti's that I have seen so far in this thread.

Here is my previous post FOR YOUR CONVENIENCE that I put up for the hippie.

Don't be concerned about my convenience. I already read your post because I replied to it. I direct you to the initial sentence re. static electricity. None of your videos prove anything that isn't already accepted. Neither do they indicate such a thing as free energy or long distance energy transmission, when you dishonestly try to make out that they do.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 9:19:08 PM   
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What I would really like to know is is there any real quality implementation studies done with Tesla's static technology besides of course the all important 'Uncle Fester' study RealOne discusses

I think Uncle Fester might feel being associated with "R0" would harm his credibility, and understandably so!

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 9:40:26 PM   
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Wow what venom! I really hit a nerve didnt I! Ok I got a 12 pack you dodged explaining why is not getting a shock by the same electricity he is lighting a 100 watt 120 volt bulb with.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

More of R0's copy and paste horseshit that he keeps pulling when a thread isn't going his way.

Actually I am laughing my ass off watching you squirm.


The experiments were explained by static electricity as is very fucking well known.

Really? Well explain it for everyone so everyone can be as smart as you!



YIts very well known Tesla's AC system was more efficient at the transmission of electricity than the competing DC system. Thats partly why it won out.

Realy? Explain how that works too k! All these statements and nothing more than a bag of hot air to back them up. Maybe you can dig up a good engineering book and be like really vague and say "see that proves it". Its one of the more entertaining forum tricks and I have not seen it for a while so I am over due. Humor me! Post a whole book!


I'm not angry, just amused at your shit, and you obfuscate more here. We were talking about the basic principle of energy in, energy out. The free energy ilooninati club you are a member of believes there is such a thing as free energy that circumvents that principle.

I dont put any energy into a solar collector so lets see zero in ..... um what does that come to again?


Don't be concerned about my convenience. I already read your post because I replied to it. I direct you to the initial sentence re. static electricity. None of your videos prove anything that isn't already accepted.

Good then lets wire your ass up JUST LIKE THIS:



and then we will get enough static to light that bulb and watch what happens to you LOL Lets do it on national tv!


Neither do they indicate such a thing as free energy or long distance energy transmission, when you dishonestly try to make out that they do.

Now now not so fast. Lets start with the basics and explain the problems I gave you instead of your billowing hot air for a change.

26 miles is long distance, it is far field why must you change the face of the matter to the bleeding edge of lying? Is that the only way you can debate? Mince words, move goal posts, huff and puff saying nothing, and call others down for your shortcomings and inability to explain it? LOLOL



Kool so why dont you show me static electricity lighting a 100 watt bulb, that would be even more novel! Did you invent it?
Static that is?









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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 9:59:54 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Wow what venom! I really hit a nerve didnt I! Ok I got a 12 pack you dodged explaining why is not getting a shock by the same electricity he is lighting a 100 watt 120 volt bulb with.

You can keep pretending I'm angry if you want or maybe you ilooninati have mind reading powers too! Did Tesla develop such a device that the ebil grubafia suppressed?

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

More of R0's copy and paste horseshit that he keeps pulling when a thread isn't going his way.

Actually I am laughing my ass off watching you squirm.

Squirm about what exactly? You copy and paste to pretend you have something to say or some proper answer to give when you don't.

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The experiments were explained by static electricity as is very fucking well known.

Really? Well explain it for everyone so everyone can be as smart as you!

Dude, get your hands on a book about basic physics. It'll have nice illustrations and pictures of Tesla coils and Van der Graaf generators to help you on your way.

quote:


YIts very well known Tesla's AC system was more efficient at the transmission of electricity than the competing DC system. Thats partly why it won out.

Realy? Explain how that works too k! All these statements and nothing more than a bag of hot air to back them up. Maybe you can dig up a good engineering book and be like really vague and say "see that proves it". Its one of the more entertaining forum tricks and I have not seen it for a while so I am over due. Humor me! Post a whole book!

Why should I "humor" you by explaining how it works? Its not even the topic of the thread. Even if I explained, taking a great deal of time to do so it would be a waste on you.

quote:

Also in the late 1880s, Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries in part because of Edison's promotion of direct current (DC) for electric power distribution over the more efficient alternating current advocated by Tesla and Westinghouse. Until the development of the induction motor, AC's advantages for long distance high voltage transmission were counterbalanced by the inability to operate motors on AC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#American_citizenship


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I'm not angry, just amused at your shit, and you obfuscate more here. We were talking about the basic principle of energy in, energy out. The free energy ilooninati club you are a member of believes there is such a thing as free energy that circumvents that principle.

I dont put any energy into a solar collector so lets see zero in ..... um what does that come to again?

The sun is a light source so it still conforms to the rule V in/out. You were claiming there is such a way of creating free energy from no source. Thats the Ilooninati club there.

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Don't be concerned about my convenience. I already read your post because I replied to it. I direct you to the initial sentence re. static electricity. None of your videos prove anything that isn't already accepted.

Good then lets wire your ass up and we can get enough static to light that bulb and watch what happens to you LOL

You have this odd seemingly erotic obsession with men's asses, scat etc. Its odd that you keep talking in that way. Does the way you talk have any reflection on your sexuality? No judgement on your peccadillos here but kindly keep it out of ordinary discussion.

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Neither do they indicate such a thing as free energy or long distance energy transmission, when you dishonestly try to make out that they do.

Now now not so fast. Lets start with the basics and explain the problems I gave you instead of your billowing hot air for a change.

26 miles is long distance, it is far field why must you change the face of the matter to the bleeding edge of lying? Is that the only way you can debate? Mince words, move goal posts, huff and puff saying nothing, and call others down for your shortcomings and inability to explain it? LOLOL

You are accusing me of doing the very things you are known for. If you have proof stop "dicking" around and post up a video of long distance energy travel instead of two amateurs playing about in their cellars.

Furthermore the contention was not that energy couldn't be transferred but that it could to any meaningful degree of scale. Sending a few watts for a bulb a couple of miles? lol

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Kool so why dont you show me static electricity lighting a 100 watt bulb, that would be even more novel! Did you invent it?

Go to a performance. One was televised on the BBC a few years back - one of the memorable scenes was man with a light bulb in his mouth near one of the coils and it lit up brightly. It is considered safe since the current from the coil flows over the surface of the skin.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 10:04:46 PM   
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So fucking awesome.

undeniable proof proof of concept!

Why is he NOT getting a shock?

Explain it.

How about it einstein?


Stop calling people names and listen... this isn't tesla magic.
Linemen do it with thousands of volts right out in front of your house occasionally. You isolate yourself from ground (-). closer examination would reveal isolation using a dialectric. Perhaps as simple as a thick rubber mat.
There IS in fact some transmission through the tissue because it touches the circuit in several places. But because this is most likely DC at those voltages, the current has no pulse to it and flows MOSTLY through the path of shortest resistance, which is the bulb, or circuit. And WHY because those materials are EXPONENTIALLY more conductive.

Jesus... got anything to show us that isn't in the boy scout manual for the 'electricity' merit badge?


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 10:45:28 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
Wow what venom! I really hit a nerve didnt I! Ok I got a 12 pack you dodged explaining why is not getting a shock by the same electricity he is lighting a 100 watt 120 volt bulb with.

You can keep pretending I'm angry if you want or maybe you ilooninati have mind reading powers too! Did Tesla develop such a device that the ebil grubafia suppressed?


you can keep pretending purport to the looninatis. I dont I argue with them all the time.

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ORIGINAL: Anaxagoras

More of R0's copy and paste horseshit that he keeps pulling when a thread isn't going his way.

Actually I am laughing my ass off watching you squirm.

Squirm about what? You copy and paste to pretend you have something to say or some answer to give when you don't.

I posted proof.


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The experiments were explained by static electricity as is very fucking well known.

Really? Well explain it for everyone so everyone can be as smart as you!

Dude, get your hands on a book about basic physics. It'll have nice illustrations and pictures of Tesla coils and Van der Graaf generators to help you on your way.

DODGE!

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YIts very well known Tesla's AC system was more efficient at the transmission of electricity than the competing DC system. Thats partly why it won out.

Realy? Explain how that works too k! All these statements and nothing more than a bag of hot air to back them up. Maybe you can dig up a good engineering book and be like really vague and say "see that proves it". Its one of the more entertaining forum tricks and I have not seen it for a while so I am over due. Humor me! Post a whole book!

Why should I "humor" you by explaining how it works? Its not even the topic of the thread. Even if I explained, taking a great deal of time to do so it would be a waste on you.

ANOTHER DODGE
Its and essential element to the topic of this thread.

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Also in the late 1880s, Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries in part because of Edison's promotion of direct current (DC) for electric power distribution over the more efficient alternating current advocated by Tesla and Westinghouse. Until the development of the induction motor, AC's advantages for long distance high voltage transmission were counterbalanced by the inability to operate motors on AC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#American_citizenship

Thanks for the picture of teslas remote contreol boats, aside from that ANOTHER DODGE, because you do not know why you think ac is more efficient than dc LMAO



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I'm not angry, just amused at your shit, and you obfuscate more here. We were talking about the basic principle of energy in, energy out. The free energy ilooninati club you are a member of believes there is such a thing as free energy that circumvents that principle.

I dont put any energy into a solar collector so lets see zero in ..... um what does that come to again?

The sun is a light source so it still conforms to the rule V in/out. You were claiming there is such a way of creating free energy from no source. Thats the Ilooninati club there.

GREAT! EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS! LMAO


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Don't be concerned about my convenience. I already read your post because I replied to it. I direct you to the initial sentence re. static electricity. None of your videos prove anything that isn't already accepted.

Good then lets wire your ass up and we can get enough static to light that bulb and watch what happens to you LOL

You have this odd erotic obsession with men's asses. I've noticed that you keep talking about them. Does that have any reflection on your sexual identity?

ANOTHER DODGE
and trust me you have nothing to worry about! LMAO


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Neither do they indicate such a thing as free energy or long distance energy transmission, when you dishonestly try to make out that they do.

It wouldnt matter because you deny what is proven in front of your face. Rare I run into that level of dishonest lameness out here.


Now now not so fast. Lets start with the basics and explain the problems I gave you instead of your billowing hot air for a change.


Now read this next part really slow and try really hard ot figger out what it means;

26 miles is long distance, it is far field why must you change the face of the matter to the bleeding edge of lying? Is that the only way you can debate? Mince words, move goal posts, huff and puff saying nothing, and call others down for your shortcomings and inability to explain it? LOLOL

You are accusing me of doing the very things you are known for. If you have proof stop "dicking" (LOL) around and post up a video of long distance energy travel instead of two amateurs playing about in their cellars.

See you did not understand a damn word I said or you could not say that.
Another cheap shot at gays on a bdsm site


Furthermore the contention was not that energy couldn't be transferred but that it could to any meaningful degree of scale. Sending a few watts for a bulb a couple of miles? lol

Thanks for telling ME the OP what the contention is or was! Any other loonynatti mind reading you care to do tonite?

Oh and when you are done let me know what bulb you ever lit tuned to a megawatt tv station


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Kool so why dont you show me static electricity lighting a 100 watt bulb, that would be even more novel! Did you invent it?

Go to a performance. One was televised on the BBC a few years back - one of the memorable scenes was man with a light bulb in his mouth near one of the coils and it lit up brightly. It was quite safe since the r.f. current from the coil flows over the surface of the skin.



I lost a very good friend who was killed in a "safe" RF accident.

Are you able to post anything but complete trash and hot air?

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/15/2012 10:55:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

quote:

So fucking awesome.

undeniable proof proof of concept!

Why is he NOT getting a shock?

Explain it.

How about it einstein?


Stop calling people names and listen... this isn't tesla magic.
Linemen do it with thousands of volts right out in front of your house occasionally. You isolate yourself from ground (-). closer examination would reveal isolation using a dialectric. Perhaps as simple as a thick rubber mat.
There IS in fact some transmission through the tissue because it touches the circuit in several places. But because this is most likely DC at those voltages, the current has no pulse to it and flows MOSTLY through the path of shortest resistance, which is the bulb, or circuit. And WHY because those materials are EXPONENTIALLY more conductive.

Jesus... got anything to show us that isn't in the boy scout manual for the 'electricity' merit badge?







The guy is holding the screw thread of the bulb and touching the center to the copper tube in the flower pot LOL Here is another one:



Watch the videos,

Light, The Tesla Way-01 - TMT 72.4 Scale

Look mom I am touching the wires and no shock!

no wires...at all, no ground, no way for the RF to make a circuit. (except through his body maybe?) *and actually these circuits work best in the high audio range, so much for the RF crap anyway. No one wants to spend 10 grand just for copper to operate at that freq.

What is going on there has nothing to do with being grounded and would have little to no effect on either the people of the operations you are seeing.

I mean come on here, he is PART OF THE LOAD IN THE CIRCUIT, you do know what that means right?



And he is not getting a shock! He should be dead. Anyone with electrical knowledge knows this.

Its just one of the fascinating properties of tesla electricity.

You all keep trying to relate this to your radiation generation and it should be painfully obvious this IS something outside that realm.

At least you appear to be giving it an honest go.






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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 5:28:32 AM   
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Ok, Uncle Fester.   why should he be dead?  give us the voltage and the amperes please, with credible certified citation.   the fucking things can be activated with less than a volt.

Lick a 9 volt battery, and why aint you dead, or your teeth blown out your head?


Lets quit the magic words and the sensationalist confutations of simple everyday drab shit.

And now that we have that done, where is the high gas price in these pictures, or the automobiles driving with him in the middle of the circuit.............fuckin anything on the topic at all, throw us a bone here...... 

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 7:28:33 AM   
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Ah yes I see R0 persists in his copy and paste bullshit. No doubt he will suggest I, yourself, HK etc. is terribly angry even though we have shot down his bullshit repeatedly.
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Wow what venom! I really hit a nerve didnt I! Ok I got a 12 pack you dodged explaining why is not getting a shock by the same electricity he is lighting a 100 watt 120 volt bulb with.

You can keep pretending I'm angry if you want or maybe you ilooninati have mind reading powers too! Did Tesla develop such a device that the ebil grubafia suppressed?

you can keep pretending purport to the looninatis. I dont I argue with them all the time.

I'm not quite sure what you are saying here as you being your typically incoherent self but if you are saying you argue with the Ilooninati's as well then thats bullshit. I invented the word , and it refers to people exactly like you. It is a humorous take on the Illuminati - a fictional group your lot obsess about to justify your batshit insanity.

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More of R0's copy and paste horseshit that he keeps pulling when a thread isn't going his way.

Actually I am laughing my ass off watching you squirm.

Squirm about what? You copy and paste to pretend you have something to say or some answer to give when you don't.

I posted proof.

You did no such thing. You posted links to two Youtube videos from sources without any pedigree that don't show anything revolutionary yet you pretend they do.

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YIts very well known Tesla's AC system was more efficient at the transmission of electricity than the competing DC system. Thats partly why it won out.

Realy? Explain how that works too k! All these statements and nothing more than a bag of hot air to back them up. Maybe you can dig up a good engineering book and be like really vague and say "see that proves it". Its one of the more entertaining forum tricks and I have not seen it for a while so I am over due. Humor me! Post a whole book!

Why should I "humor" you by explaining how it works? Its not even the topic of the thread. Even if I explained, taking a great deal of time to do so it would be a waste on you.

DODGE
Its and essential element to the topic of this thread.

The question is not relevant to the topic of the thread. It relates to a standard AC system Tesla pioneered. No one rejects that his standard AC system worked. It has nothing to do with his wireless electrostatic technology. That is the issue of contention so it is not in any way a fucking dodge to say I can't be bothered spending pages and pages discussing something totally off-topic. I'm not playing your game after you tried to push a dozen fucking detailed questions on me after Hippiekinkster I'm not interested in replying to your tittle-tattle for the simple reason that you don't bother to discuss anything with honesty. You simply copy and paste questions over and over again as on the truther threads.

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Also in the late 1880s, Tesla and Thomas Edison became adversaries in part because of Edison's promotion of direct current (DC) for electric power distribution over the more efficient alternating current advocated by Tesla and Westinghouse. Until the development of the induction motor, AC's advantages for long distance high voltage transmission were counterbalanced by the inability to operate motors on AC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla#American_citizenship

Thanks for the picture of teslas remote contreol boats, aside from that ANOTHER DODGE, because you do not know why you think ac is more efficient than dc LMAO
You were proved wrong but once again you pretend its a dodge. The topic of why his AC system was more efficient as a carrier than DC is well known. You contested that point, I provided a quote, and now you are pretending the question was whether I knew why it wasn't as efficient a carrier. If you really want an explanation due to your own personal ignorance: the AC system allowed the use of high voltage transmission while Edison's DC system did not. High voltage, low current transmission allowed far smaller conductors to be used for a given level of power. Moreover, DC was limited in its application for industrial use and required far more stations to generate power over shorter distances. Happy?

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I'm not angry, just amused at your shit, and you obfuscate more here. We were talking about the basic principle of energy in, energy out. The free energy ilooninati club you are a member of believes there is such a thing as free energy that circumvents that principle.

I dont put any energy into a solar collector so lets see zero in ..... um what does that come to again?

The sun is a light source so it still conforms to the rule V in/out. You were claiming there is such a way of creating free energy from no source. Thats the Ilooninati club there.

GREAT! EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS! LMAO

Sorry why are we talking about the workings of solar power now?

I was simply stating that solar power does not conform to your Ilooninati definition of free power because (a) it needs a substantive power source - i.e. the Sun (b) it's not a technology used for mass supply yet that can be greatly improved at no cost (c) the science behind solar power is accepted http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_energy_suppression

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In this context, the term "free energy" is not well-defined, and should not be confused with thermodynamic free energy. Generally, it is used to refer to purported transformative technologies which have the potential to dramatically reduce personal energy costs with relatively little capital investment.

There have been numerous free energy claims over the years.[1] Many, such as those implying perpetual motion or those based on extracting zero-point energy, are viewed as impossible according to accepted physical laws.[2] Others, such as cold fusion, while not fundamentally impossible, are not accepted as established by the scientific community. Conspiracy advocates therefore claim that the scientific community has controlled and suppressed research into alternative avenues of energy production via the institutions of peer review.[3]


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Good then lets wire your ass up and we can get enough static to light that bulb and watch what happens to you LOL

You have this odd erotic obsession with men's asses. I've noticed that you keep talking about them. Does that have any reflection on your sexual identity?

ANOTHER DODGE
and trust me you have nothing to worry about! LMAO

I'm just not interested in a stupid response. You clearly have issues but at the very least it would be nice then if you quite all this anal-obsessed talk on thread after thread.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 8:06:36 AM   
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Neither do they indicate such a thing as free energy or long distance energy transmission, when you dishonestly try to make out that they do.

It wouldnt matter because you deny what is proven in front of your face. Rare I run into that level of dishonest lameness out here.

Never mind what I would or wouldn't believe, no one here thought those videos demonstarted any proofs whatsoever. When it comes to dishonesty I suggest you look in the mirror.

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Now now not so fast. Lets start with the basics and explain the problems I gave you instead of your billowing hot air for a change.

Now read this next part really slow and try really hard ot figger out what it means;

26 miles is long distance, it is far field why must you change the face of the matter to the bleeding edge of lying? Is that the only way you can debate? Mince words, move goal posts, huff and puff saying nothing, and call others down for your shortcomings and inability to explain it? LOLOL

You are accusing me of doing the very things you are known for. If you have proof stop "dicking" (LOL) around and post up a video of long distance energy travel instead of two amateurs playing about in their cellars.

See you did not understand a damn word I said or you could not say that.
Another cheap shot at gays on a bdsm site

Why can't you learn how to quote properly. Its virtually impossible to reply with the fucking mess you posted above. Perhaps thats deliberate as I already criticised you about it.

Firstly, you should provide proof from a decent source that Tesla truly managed to light up a bulb 26 miles away. Secondly, that could have been achievable with the technology of the day anyway. Merely use a powerful transmitter to send out X amount of watts that could be stepped up to the voltage required in a tuned receiver to light a bulb. Its no biggie.

I never made any cheap shots at gays on this site. In fact the couple I talked with were all good exchanges of ideas unlike the joke that represents "discussion" with yourself.

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Furthermore the contention was not that energy couldn't be transferred but that it could to any meaningful degree of scale. Sending a few watts for a bulb a couple of miles? lol

Thanks for telling ME the OP what the contention is or was! Any other loonynatti mind reading you care to do tonite?

Well maybe you should re-read your stupid "opening post" again. It was the contention that the mass transfer of power on a huge scale was achievable in 1899.

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Oh and when you are done let me know what bulb you ever lit tuned to a megawatt tv station

I never claimed I lit a bulb tuned to any TV station.

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Go to a performance. One was televised on the BBC a few years back - one of the memorable scenes was man with a light bulb in his mouth near one of the coils and it lit up brightly. It was quite safe since the r.f. current from the coil flows over the surface of the skin.

I lost a very good friend who was killed in a "safe" RF accident.

Are you able to post anything but complete trash and hot air?

No offense but the most surprising thing here is the news you had any friends. Neither did I say RF was always safe http://bhs.broo.k12.wv.us/homepage/alumni/dstevick/tc.htm

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Tesla coils are not harmless toys. One must constantly be watchful of what is touched. It is said that the r.f. current from the coil flows over the surface of the skin, and is therefore not capable of killing.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 8:40:57 AM   
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The guy is holding the screw thread of the bulb and touching the center to the copper tube in the flower pot LOL Here is another one:




You really are ignorant of the basic physics going on here, aren't you? Look, I like you man, but I'm only going to explain this one last time...
The principal has not changed.
They've just added some dirt. The principal here is a DC Transmission skin effect ... Wool sleeve to take most of the transmission distance and the remainder goes across his hand, WHICH DOES REGISTER A MILD SHOCK. Dude I did this in a freshman physics class at Umass ... And if you look at the 'magic bucket' right below where the electrodes go into the soil (AKA THE DIELECTRIC), through the sides of the bucket you'll see a hole on either side and a cable running down out of the frame.
The guy's jacket sleeve conducts the LOW DC CURRENT, skin effect to one pole of the lightbulb's circuit. Meanwhile, the Other pole is ALSO TOUCHING the opposite electrode and the bulb in the middle is absorbing most of the current. And guess what... the man's hand IS getting a very mild shock.
I can prove this to you. Take the car battery out of your car (AND PLEASE ALSO VIDEO THIS ... BECAUSE I KNOW I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO WANTS TO SEE YOU FLAILING YOUR ARM WHEN YOU GET SHOCKED AND NOT EXPECTING TO ). Now get a trouble lamp and install a 15 watt stove light bulb. Now get some side cutters and cut the cord of the trouble lamp (and because you believe this nonsense in these 'experiments' you keep amazing us with, I will say this without feeling guilty .... MAKE SURE YOU UNPLUG THE FUCKING CORD BEFORE YOU CUT IT!).
Okay cut the lamp's cord down to about 1 foot or less and strip both leads. Wrap one lead around the ground (look for a minus sign.. the minus sign looks like this "-"). No lay your right wrist on the positive terminal of the battery (the one that looks like '+') and then with your left hand put the remaining bared lead between the fingers of your right hand.

Wow.. the bulb lights up and your hand fucking hurts, DON'T IT?

Good maybe next time you'll listen.

And hey... instead of looking at these bullshit videos, why not read this:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:TeslaSecret_Scam



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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 9:31:07 AM   
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Ok, Uncle Fester.   why should he be dead?  give us the voltage and the amperes please, with credible certified citation.   the fucking things can be activated with less than a volt.

Lick a 9 volt battery, and why aint you dead, or your teeth blown out your head?


Lets quit the magic words and the sensationalist confutations of simple everyday drab shit.

And now that we have that done, where is the high gas price in these pictures, or the automobiles driving with him in the middle of the circuit.............fuckin anything on the topic at all, throw us a bone here...... 







Come on Al! You need to ask lil ole me to give you the answer to what should be obvious to the guy who has now been proven that "c" is NOT a constant.

Why dont you approximate the voltage it takes to create and hold an 1/8th inch arc?

Lets start with the obvious that everyone here wants to skip over in their insane rush to judgment.

Approximate that voltage for us Al.

Everyone knows that 440 and 560 volt AC line wont do that so it has to be higher than 560volts.


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:06:38 AM   
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You've no doubt heard of the spark plug

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:12:46 AM   
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yes and the 30,000 volts across a 35 thou gap, dont worry I will get to your post soon enough :) busy right now.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:33:34 AM   
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I'm not sure anyone is aware of this, with all the photos flying...

...but the state of technology has considerably advanced since 1899.

Thought you should know.

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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:34:46 AM   
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Do the experiment and show us the video of you riving in pain from the shock OR YOU HAVE FAILED AND I HAVE WON!


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:41:01 AM   
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I'm not sure anyone is aware of this, with all the photos flying...

...but the state of technology has considerably advanced since 1899.

Thought you should know.


Show us specifically what you mean. I am aware of a similar technology... In fact they're using it to charge teeny little cell phone batteries.

This shit the rug is demonstrating is smoke and mirrors and it's not real transmission


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RE: So who is sick of high gas prices? - 5/16/2012 10:52:56 AM   
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BTW - if anyone wants to see the actual energy technologies things leaning in this direction can be applied to. Be sure to move to Massachusetts and vote for Bill Cimbrelo. We already have your back.


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