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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/29/2012 11:02:52 PM

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I enjoy a well constructed email but will accept one that is not perfect gramatically. I would guess those profiles you are reading have more to do with text speak.

That is when u n r ur n c n 2 n abt n wht n plz n pls n asl are supposed to be read as real words.

Yeah, this. I don't expect perfection, but I do expect somebody to try and put together an intelligent, coherent message, especially when they're emailing me a first contact. When somebody sends me a message out of the blue like "U r hot. U want 2 hang out 2nite?", I just don't even want to talk to them.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/29/2012 11:12:38 PM

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I agree with you. I'm not perfect and don't expect perfection in others, but I appreciate capitalization, punctuation, and words spelled out completely.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/29/2012 11:14:37 PM

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Grammar the difference between knowing your shit and knowing you're shit

Well said!

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 8:36:05 AM

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My oldest has multiple problems. She qualified in school for a spelling exemption. But because of spellcheck and grammar check, she's never had to apply for it.

The Man has multiple degrees in math and science. He can't spell a damn. Again, he uses spell check and grammar check.

It is simply foolish to not make as good a first impression as possible. By not doing so, you tell anyone you write to that they don't merit your best efforts. Is that really what you are like in a relationship?

If so, then keep on doing what you're doing so they don't have the misfortune of becoming involved with you.

If it isn't, then why do you insist on giving that impression?

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 9:28:18 AM

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The correct use of language does matter to me. It´s not a fetish, it´s a love of the language, good presentation and legibility.

It doesn´t take much effort to use the correct version of your/you´re, there/their/they´re etc., unless you´re dyslexic.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 11:56:12 AM

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Yea but some words are just so damn hard. Then have you ever just kept looking at the word and swore it didn't look right but it was. I do that all the time.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 2:23:43 PM

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Oh yes. I blame it on age lol.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 2:58:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalthus

Guys,

I’m sorry, some people are taking what I said seriously and that wasn’t the intention.

For the record:

I believe people can have whatever preferences they want – that’s entirely up to them. It’s no ones place to judge, least of all mine.

I just found references to a Dom needing good grammar a bit amusing, that was all. It strikes me as picky, and on the face of it a ‘picky submissive’ sounds like a contradiction in terms.

I do understand that submission is a personal private thing and of course being picky does not mean you are less submissive when you choose to be. That was not intended as a suggestion that anyone on this board who is concerned about grammar etc is not a real submissive.

I would not actually tie anyone to a flogging horse and submit them endless examples of bad grammar. That’s not a realistic response, and it wasn’t intended to be. But (other than the tying part) it’s not physical in nature and definitely not intended as a serious threat.

Think that covers it. I apologise for any offense I may have given.

If a picky sub seems like a contradiction in terms to you, you (perhaps) need to have a much better (and more accurate) idea of what, exactly, a sub IS.

First, those of use who submit readily agree we don't just submit to anyone and everyone. We have standards. Please attempt to think about why an s-type would NEED to have standards.

If they didn't, they could easily find themselves submitting to every rapist, criminal, and psychopath they come across. Can you see how that might be less than healthy? I bet you can. Which means you CAN understand why subs have standards, you just don't like the ones some have, b/c you feel they are singling you out.

That someone is picky as to who they chose to submit to speaks of someone who knows themselves and their limitations, all great assets in a sub, to my mind.

You may want to ponder this.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 3:26:27 PM

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I can only assume that since you have a problem with subs who are picky, that you are not which means you'll take anyone who says yes to you I guess. Now we can even more clearly see the picture.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 3:39:34 PM

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Well, I agree that if someone is picky about correctly using the English language and not reverting to initialspeak, then that person is on the right track. If one cannot be bothered to pronounce the word in its entirety, then why bother to even speak. I mean unless you routinely have to say words like supercaliifragilisticexpialidocious which is just a jumble of nonsense from an old movie, there is no need to have to go and initialize what you are saying. The only exception to this rule would be if you are in a chatroom and doing it for the purpose of brevity.

To the people who insist on speaking with initials, don't bother speaking to me, I want to hear entire words.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 4:06:53 PM

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My five year old nephew was using 5 and 6 syllable words Thursday!

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 4:43:58 PM

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You're missing the point.

I'm NOT singled out because of inadequate English.

I understand that if you are going to put yourself in a vulnerable position, you need to have a high degree of trust. I also understand (and believe I have already said) that submission is selective and it only applies to your chosen dom, not everyone. In practical terms that makes absolute sense.

It’s just that the actual term ‘picky submissive’ is innately comical. Like – a hydrophobic duck . It’s just a matter of semantics, but I’m sorry, it’s slightly funny. The same as ‘a meeting of clairvoyants being cancelled because of unforeseen circumstances’.

I’m not going to bother responding to ad hominem attacks about the kind of partners I would accept. To clarify - I don’t have a problem with subs choosing their partners carefully. I’m just suggesting that whether a contact can use punctuation might not be the acid test of their suitability.

I’ve attached a link to a chap who – as a product of and English public school – would certainly not have had any difficulties with his written communication. So by the standards some posters are using, he would appear to be a suitable play partner:

http://www.murderuk.com/serial_neville_heath.html

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 4:49:00 PM

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I'm confused...the link you sent...where does it say anywhere in it about how well he wrote?? From what I can see, the very fact he went AWOL and was an alcoholic is enough for me to say nope, no thanks.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 4:53:55 PM

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Heath went to an English Public School, at a time when they taught very little except Latin and English Grammar. He would certainly not have used txt speak or incorrect punctuation. My point is, most of the respondants to this thread would therefore NOT have blocked him.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 4:56:28 PM

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Just because he went to an English public school made his grammar better? LOL...and you know this how??? I know a lot of people that go to private schools where they're taught Latin and every other language under the sun and STILL can't write worth a damn. Where you went to school tells me nothing at all and just because someone may have gone to the best schools does not mean he's intelligent. Ever see how most teenagers write and speak these days? It's atrocious!!!!

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 5:10:11 PM

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Just because he went to an English public school made his grammar better? LOL...and you know this how???

er - because thats what they did in the 30's and 40's - ruthlessly?

Any knowledge of the English education system would tell you that. Their focus was very limited but you didn't get out without those basic drilled into you. Secondly, he was able to qualify as an officer and that would have required passing a written test. To be 'part of the club' meant sharing certain values and qualities.

But your missing the point. Perhaps he WAS the exception. Try this chap - he was a few years ahead of a friend of mine at this school and clearly did very well. His English master would be shocked at the suggestion that he has not teaching proper grammar:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bamber

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 5:10:37 PM

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ORIGINAL: kalthus

You're missing the point.

I'm NOT singled out because of inadequate English.

I understand that if you are going to put yourself in a vulnerable position, you need to have a high degree of trust. I also understand (and believe I have already said) that submission is selective and it only applies to your chosen dom, not everyone. In practical terms that makes absolute sense.

It’s just that the actual term ‘picky submissive’ is innately comical. Like – a hydrophobic duck . It’s just a matter of semantics, but I’m sorry, it’s slightly funny. The same as ‘a meeting of clairvoyants being cancelled because of unforeseen circumstances’.

I’m not going to bother responding to ad hominem attacks about the kind of partners I would accept. To clarify - I don’t have a problem with subs choosing their partners carefully. I’m just suggesting that whether a contact can use punctuation might not be the acid test of their suitability.

I’ve attached a link to a chap who – as a product of and English public school – would certainly not have had any difficulties with his written communication. So by the standards some posters are using, he would appear to be a suitable play partner:

http://www.murderuk.com/serial_neville_heath.html

The two words picky submissive are comical? Why? I'd truly like to know why that is funny. Maybe I'm stupid but I'm not getting it.

The link about the man who you are assuming had wonderful grammar made no sense to me. Yes, there are predators about. Yes, women try to watch out for them. Looking at someone's grammar is not the only criteria that women use, if it were, it's true that this man you linked to might have passed the test. You're not taking into account whatever things the submissive women may pick out about his character and thereby refuse to be naked with him outside of his grammar.

The point you're making here is...odd. So there is a man who did horrible things to women who supposedly had good grammar.....ok, so? Like some women out there didn't reject him for other reasons...? You're focusing on the grammar, as though that is the only criteria women use for choosing a partner, it is not. No one on this thread has said they only look at spelling and grammar. They are saying it's important. Two different things.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 5:15:50 PM

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Can't help with the first point - either it strikes you as funny or it doesn't. I'm sure there are cairvoyants who wouldn't see the 'unforeseen circumstances' comment as funny either.

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So there is a man who did horrible things to women who supposedly had good grammar.....ok, so?

The point is - some earlier respondants had suggested that the quality of written communication IS a way you can tell if someone is a safe play partner or not. I'm just giving an example where it clearly wouldn't have helped.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 5:27:46 PM

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To clarify - I don’t have a problem with subs choosing their partners carefully. I’m just suggesting that whether a contact can use punctuation might not be the acid test of their suitability.

When I was still looking, I requested that people write with proper grammar. It's not that that is my only requirement. If you can speak and write well, that doesn't make my knees quiver with excitement or anything. It all comes down to the fact that I want someone who is intelligent. And as we are writing back and forth online, it stands to reason that I will judge whether or not your are smarter than the average gorilla based off of your writing. That is why I like to see proper grammar. That's what I am judging you off of at first, because that's basically all I have to judge.

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RE: Grammar Nazi fetish - 6/30/2012 5:28:32 PM

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What I'm not getting about the "picky submissives" is if you think it's funny because submissives can't or shouldn't be picky? I'm trying not to assume your meaning, thought I'd ask first. If you are thinking it's funny because submissives can't or shouldn't be picky, in your opinion, than that is really pretty offensive. Like I said...not trying to assume anything.

I don't think anyone who responded on the thread was saying that the quality of someone's writing was a sole indicator of safety. If they did imply that then I'd say they were bonkers. They all seemed to be saying that it was something to be looked at, along with other things. That is why your point of these men who did horrible things while being good in grammar isn't really all that convincing. For every woman they ensnared there had to be others who walked away, we don't know what any of those women saw.

The overall point being that women look at a wide variety of things to ensure their safety. How a man communicates with the written word is just one tool in the toolbox. For the record, it does matter to me how a man communicates via any medium. If he has problems with that then it goes into my assessment of him.

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