igor2003
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Unions suck.
We just had a strike here in Washington State.
Claiming "unfair Business Practices".
What a bunch of fucking hooey. You are entitled to your opinion, however it would carry more weight if you could explain how the union's claim is untrue. Otherwise your claim of "hooey" is just as much "hooey" as theirs is.
Not a damn one of them was being asked to work in unsafe working conditions....indeed, WMA (Waste Management) has one of the highest safety records on the books. "Unfair" and "unsafe" are two different things, and as far as "unsafe" can you explain how you know how safe or unsafe their working conditions are? Can you provide a link that shows their safety record rather than just making an unsubstantiated claim? According to what the union claims, sanitation work is the fifth most dangerous occupation in the U.S.
It was nothing more than a way to get more pay because...their contract had run its course.
These guys were making between 65K and 125k depending on overtime. Can you substantiate this? When I worked for the local sanitation crew many years ago (I was one of the lucky ones that got to ride the back, manually lifting and emptying the cans into the truck.) and we were paid a set wage...basically a salary...so the quicker we completed our route the more we made per hour. If we completed our route in 6 hours, so much the better, but if a route took 10 hours it was just tough shit. You got paid the same either way. No such thing as overtime...but of course we were non-union.
The bottom end....65K (by the way...plus benies that the average Joe will never see that amount to 10's of thousands) ain't bad....in any environment....in this one...pretty sweet.
Fucking losers.
Fuck unions.
I think I'll shit in my dumpster next week. Actually, "shit" is not really that bad compared to some of the other things sanitation workers sometimes have to deal with, like dead, diseased animals and toxic waste that isn't disposed of properly, and is instead just dumped into a dumpster so that a sanitation worker that is unaware of it being there then has to deal with it. Yep, pretty safe, huh?
Most stories do have two sides to them. When I entered “Washington state sanitation strike” in the search engine this is what I came up with and is what, I am assuming, you are referring to, from the union point of view about the (upcoming at the time) strike on the union website. http://www.wslc.org/reports/2010/March/25.htm#Thursday
Both WMI and RSG enjoy healthy profit margins thanks to the hard work of their employees, but have made unreasonable demands at the bargaining table. WMI has demanded that the contract include language that would allow the company to make unspecified wage cuts at any time. Republic has made a similar demand for workers to accept unlimited pay cuts to fund their own retirement.
Workers at WMI have also reported to Local 174 that the company has been consistently shorting their paychecks.
"I don't think it’s too much to ask an $11 billion corporation to stop shorting our paychecks, to put a little extra money into safety devices that protect us and the public and to stop retaliating against workers that get injured on the job," said Jeff Anderson a 27-year roll-off driver at WMI….
It was brought up in one earlier post about how dangerous sanitation work is:
…Waste collection and disposal ranks as the fifth most dangerous job in the U.S. and sanitation workers are more likely to die on the job than firefighters or police officers.
And, as to whether the sanitation workers are members of the Teamster union or not:
Teamster Locals 117 and 174 represent more than 700 sanitation workers at WMI and Allied Waste across King County. The Teamsters Union represents more than 32,000 sanitation workers nationwide with 7,000 members at WMI and 8,000 at Allied Waste/Republic Services.
Also, all sanitation workers aren’t truck drivers. Depending on a particular areas waste disposal methods there are often a lot of people working with the waste after the trucks are dumped, and those jobs are often a lot less safe than it is for the drivers picking up the trash.
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