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ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 9:58:05 AM)

Well then you are doing way better than me. (The last surgery I had was to reroute the nerve that runs down the arm. It was pinching so it was rerouted to go from outside my elbow to inside. One thing you don't want to have is nerve surgery, btw.)

I was so fussed about the surgery, I didn't even think about the recovery !!

I couldn't use the arm or hand for about two months. And it was quite painful.

You are young and strong and have good support. Plus just think about how great an improvement it will be for you physically. Plus....what it will do for you mentally. You will not just BE a smoking hawt babe, you will KNOW it.

You can't beat that with sticks, you know?



DaddySatyr -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 10:04:51 AM)

As a matter of course, I always advise against surgery that is purely cosmetic; whether it be breasts, nose, hips, whatever.

It sounds (to me) like you have some reasons for wanting to do this but is it more about aesthetics or necessity (medical reasons)?

You stated that your husband loves you as you are (Thank God this isn't a "he wants me to change" thread).

I always ask ladies that talk about cosmetic surgery if the risks are really worth the rewards.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Peace and comfort,



Michael



mnottertail -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 10:09:57 AM)

Notice that he didnt puke, and you shouldnt either.



Lucifyre -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 10:32:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

You stated that your husband loves you as you are (Thank God this isn't a "he wants me to change" thread).


Peace and comfort,



Michael


I have to respond specifically to this particular point.

He DOES want me to change. But for Him it's not about me looking better. He is happy with the way I look and loves me just the way I am. But he is also well aware of how miserable I am about the way I look and His reasons for wanting me to change are about how I feel now and the changes to how I will feel about myself afterward. He knows He can tell me I am beautiful all day long but I won't believe it until these issues are corrected. Because of the way my body has failed me, I feel it in my heart...I feel the ugly every single day.
So yes, while it is cosmetic surgery, it's about way more than just a nip here and a tuck there...what this will fix for me goes way beyond cosmetic.

See, there is this skinny sexy smokin hot babe inside me (thanks Chatte), sometimes when Mr and I are you know...doin that thing <grin> she comes out and is all RAWR! I used to joke I could shut her up with cookies...when I look in the mirror later I see an entirely different woman there in the reflection...the way I look doesn't match how I feel and it's fucking depressing and humiliating and even disgusts me...especially because without the help of a surgeon I can't fix it. The most humiliating part about it is that before looking in the mirror I let my inhibitions down and let "her" out. As soon as I get that glance in my reflection I am embarrassed because she doesn't belong anywhere where anyone else can see her...yet. So now I have this opportunity to make me match...make me whole. I'm not looking for perfect...shit if that were the case ...well, we don't even need to go there LOL

After this is all over, Mr is going to have a very rough time getting me to put clothes on. (He doesn't see the downside LOL)
Just sayin.

Lucifyre

p.s some of the things I am saying are very difficult for me to type out. Because I have to vocalize a lot of the things I have been keeping bottled up for quite a few years. It's really unnerving to see it put up in black and white...but once I've said it, I feel like I can let all these things go as soon as Monday passes. I hope I'm right.



LadyConstanze -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 10:38:07 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

As a matter of course, I always advise against surgery that is purely cosmetic; whether it be breasts, nose, hips, whatever.

It sounds (to me) like you have some reasons for wanting to do this but is it more about aesthetics or necessity (medical reasons)?

You stated that your husband loves you as you are (Thank God this isn't a "he wants me to change" thread).

I always ask ladies that talk about cosmetic surgery if the risks are really worth the rewards.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Peace and comfort,



Michael


Seriously, if it makes a person feel better about him or herself then it's hardly "purely cosmetic". As for breasts, being a bit too bountifully endowed on top, it seriously is a pain in the neck, I would advise every guy who claims that breast reduction is "purely cosmetic" to walk around with balloons filled with water in a bra for a whole day.

If something seriously disturbs you about the way you look, it's about quality of life and if it can be fixed without too much risk, why on earth not? There is a lot of difference between somebody getting the super inflated porn star breasts or doing a Michael Jackson and just fixing something. Years ago a friend of mine got her breasts done, nothing crazy, modest B cup because she seriously was flat as a board and it bugged her, you couldn't really tell as she always wore bras with padding, but her whole demeanour changed. From the shy girl who always seemed to be a bit ill at ease, she changed to an outgoing personality. The breasts had little to do with it, it was the difference it made to herself, and I think it was worth it.



LadyHibiscus -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 10:46:44 AM)

Let's just say that I can relate, Lucifyre.



Kaliko -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 12:55:18 PM)

Lucifyre, I wish you the best for your surgery. I have such a hard time with anything like that and you deserve credit for taking the quality of your life into your own hands. I know several women who have been through it or desperately want to have it. The things that they describe that they must endure on a daily basis sound much like what you have to. It's so easy to say from far away and through a screen, but you will be fine and soon enough, you will be popping up here to tell us how much better you feel. Best to you.




littlewonder -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 12:59:44 PM)

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I watched a video of before and after of some woman who got a reduction, she was showing the hump between her shoulders from the weight of her large breasts.. I have that same ugly ass hump. GG I hope this helps it go away.
30ish years of slouching is gonna take a LONG ass time to retrain...IF I can even do that.


I have that hump too. 10 years later from my surgery and I still have that lump and it's extremely sensitive that Master has to make sure to never hit that area because I just can't handle it. I still have to remember to sit and stand up straight because I was so used to slouching forward for over 20 years. You won't really see it as much though after the surgery because you will be standing and sitting more straight.




littlewonder -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 1:05:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

As a matter of course, I always advise against surgery that is purely cosmetic; whether it be breasts, nose, hips, whatever.

It sounds (to me) like you have some reasons for wanting to do this but is it more about aesthetics or necessity (medical reasons)?

You stated that your husband loves you as you are (Thank God this isn't a "he wants me to change" thread).

I always ask ladies that talk about cosmetic surgery if the risks are really worth the rewards.

Good luck in whatever you choose.



Peace and comfort,



Michael



Mine were both purely for cosmetic reasons and I would do it all over again. My tits are no longer the first thing that men notice. They actually talk to my face now. And it's nice to wear clothing that actually doesn't pop open and you don't feel like you have this huge baby bump in the front when you try to wear jeans that look like mommy jeans.



LadyConstanze -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 2:22:16 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

quote:

I watched a video of before and after of some woman who got a reduction, she was showing the hump between her shoulders from the weight of her large breasts.. I have that same ugly ass hump. GG I hope this helps it go away.
30ish years of slouching is gonna take a LONG ass time to retrain...IF I can even do that.


I have that hump too. 10 years later from my surgery and I still have that lump and it's extremely sensitive that Master has to make sure to never hit that area because I just can't handle it. I still have to remember to sit and stand up straight because I was so used to slouching forward for over 20 years. You won't really see it as much though after the surgery because you will be standing and sitting more straight.





There's a device that looks almost like a bra, boned in the back and cut like a wide racer back, but you close it under the boobs in front, leaves the boobage area free, helps me to not slouch and sit and stand straight.



Lucifyre -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 2:48:46 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

quote:

I watched a video of before and after of some woman who got a reduction, she was showing the hump between her shoulders from the weight of her large breasts.. I have that same ugly ass hump. GG I hope this helps it go away.
30ish years of slouching is gonna take a LONG ass time to retrain...IF I can even do that.


I have that hump too. 10 years later from my surgery and I still have that lump and it's extremely sensitive that Master has to make sure to never hit that area because I just can't handle it. I still have to remember to sit and stand up straight because I was so used to slouching forward for over 20 years. You won't really see it as much though after the surgery because you will be standing and sitting more straight.





There's a device that looks almost like a bra, boned in the back and cut like a wide racer back, but you close it under the boobs in front, leaves the boobage area free, helps me to not slouch and sit and stand straight.



link plz? I'd love to know what it is and maybe get one if it will help correct my back a little.

Lucifyre



LadyConstanze -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 2:57:23 PM)

A friend got it for me when I was in the US, been trying to find another one in shops but no luck, let me just nip down to my clothes room and get it out, maybe there is a manufacturer in the garment...



LadyConstanze -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 3:03:04 PM)

It's called a posture correcter, but I couldn't find anything like it online, the one that comes closest is still quite different...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Unisex-Posture-Corrector-Back-Support-Brace-Sz-S-XXXL-/250882008456?pt=UK_Health_Beauty_Mobility_Disability_Medical_ET&var=&hash=item3a69bba588

Imagine a bra without cups, tried posture corrector bra and it came up with something quite similar but still not quite the same

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0053Z2SW0/?tag=hydra0b-21&hvadid=10393489749&ref=asc_df_B0053Z2SW0

but the 2nd one is pretty close



Lucifyre -> RE: Nerves (8/10/2012 4:48:09 PM)

Thanks muchly ;)

Lucifyre



Rule -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 1:27:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre
when I look in the mirror later I see an entirely different woman there in the reflection

It seems to me that the mirror is the problem.

Anyway, good luck.



Lucifyre -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 7:03:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Rule

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucifyre
when I look in the mirror later I see an entirely different woman there in the reflection

It seems to me that the mirror is the problem.

Anyway, good luck.



*chuckle* yea that's kinda how Mr views it also ;) (pun intended)

Thanks for the support!

Lucifyre



BambiBoi -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 10:16:35 AM)

I spent a few minutes copy/pasting all the pro and con reasons you've given Luci. But then decided against producing it. Here's what's important:

People will notice. No one will care about the difference, except you.

I understand body image issues fairly well, so my words may be falling on deaf ears. No one you play with, publicly or otherwise, thinks about your body shape. They are worried about their own. You won't see a difference in the way people treat you, so don't expect it. And don't make other people's interactions with you part of your win-condition. If you believe that this procedure will make you feel better, then do it. It sounds to me like you've hung your dream on having this done.



littlewonder -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 10:26:50 AM)

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You won't see a difference in the way people treat you, so don't expect it. And don't make other people's interactions with you part of your win-condition.


This has not been my experience. Once I had my breasts reduced, men no longer speak to my tits and just want to throw out sexual innuendos. Now men look at my face and want to hold interesting conversations.

When I had my abdominal lipo, I no longer get people looking at me and treating me like a country bumpkin. They now look at me ask me where I bought a dress or how I got such a great figure and such. People approach me much more politely now.

But like you said, all that matters is that you feel good about it and it will make you happier in the future.



Lucifyre -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 1:14:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BambiBoi

I spent a few minutes copy/pasting all the pro and con reasons you've given Luci. But then decided against producing it. Here's what's important:

People will notice. No one will care about the difference, except you.

I understand body image issues fairly well, so my words may be falling on deaf ears. No one you play with, publicly or otherwise, thinks about your body shape. They are worried about their own. You won't see a difference in the way people treat you, so don't expect it. And don't make other people's interactions with you part of your win-condition. If you believe that this procedure will make you feel better, then do it. It sounds to me like you've hung your dream on having this done.


The simple reply is, this really is all about me and how I feel about my body image.

The not so simple reply is, People will look at me differently not because of my body changing, but how I will feel about myself and carry myself in front of them. I very well am aware that I will not get to be a supermodel...like, ever LOL. I'm not doing this to be perfect or frankly, even close to it. It really is about being ashamed that at the moment I have to buy mens extra large tshirts to properly cover my breasts. I haven't shopped in the womens section in a very long time because the clothing just doesnt fit. I can't even buy clothes from the big womens stores because those don't fit me either...I am 5'2", most of the tops from those places that fit my breasts are too big in the shoulders and go halfway down my thighs. In order to buy womens apparel that even comes close, I have to buy in maternity. It's humiliating to have the sales clerk come up to me and ask me when I'm due...my youngest is 10 years old and I am SO DONE with having kids LOL.
Pants never fit me either. The ones that don't hang off my ass are so tight in the tummy that I can't make it through a couple of hours without taking a break to get them the hell off. Forget wearing jeans...muffin top with extra spillage...eww gross. And the part that doesn't come out the top gets pushed down toward my mons and it looks like I stuffed a really old nasty pillow in my pants.
The thing is, of the 4 plastic surgeons I interviewed before making my choice, ALL of them stated that the problems I have are NOT fixable with exercise. They are the result of having 3 children that basically broke my body. Other than my tummy and my boobs having so much extra loose skin, I am lean and fit and healthy and strong. My legs are thin and sexy, I have a cute little heart shaped ass, my arms are nice and slim (mostly...they sag a little too, but I can fix that)...but I look like the saggy baggy elephant and without this surgery I can't do shit about it.

I would love to say I don't give a shit what other people sceneing are thinking about the way I look. I'd also love to say that they aren't looking. Believe me, I look at them...so I know they are too. Yes I have my shallow bitch moments and sometimes make comments about other people's bodies (only to Mr though) and I am sure other people do it to me. Yes that makes me a hypocryte in some instances. The difference to me is, I give a shit what I look like and am not willing to get up on a table in front of a room full of people looking like the blob. That's just not fucking sexy. When people watch me scene I want them to be thinking about what I am doing, not how gross it looks. (unless of course we do a fisting scene and then god dammit yes, I do want them getting squicked because that's why I do THAT in public ROFL...wimpy bitches ain't weal twue subs if they can't take a fist up thier ass!!!...just sayin LOL)

This isn't even beginning to mention how I will feel when I am out working and dealing with people in the professional world. That's a whole nother bucket of snakes. If you don't look the part, people just don't take you seriously. Right now I look like the cranky old married Mom (I am the cranky old married Mom, but that's besides the issue) After Monday that's no longer going to be a problem. I will be able to conduct myself in the professional manner I always have, but my body will match.


Anyway, everything right now is all paid for, confirmed and ready to go. The only thing I haven't done is pack my overnight bag. I won't need much though, they are only keeping me for 24 hours...then I get to come home and be miserable in the comfort of my own home. I've got several meals ready to reheat in the freezer, I've got my recliner chair all ready for me to sleep in for the first couple of weeks, my laptop is all set up in the bedroom hooked up to the 42" tv as a monitor, so I'll be able to watch my internet tv, play my games and bug you guys about how much pain I'm in LOL. Meds are picked up and ready to take with me. Just gotta put some toothpaste and a set of clothing in a bag and show up.

1 more day.

Lucifyre



littlewonder -> RE: Nerves (8/11/2012 1:18:29 PM)

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It's humiliating to have the sales clerk come up to me and ask me when I'm due.


That happened to me once. Some dude approached me and asked me when I was due because I still had that baby pouch even though my daughter is now 20. That was the last straw for me and when I decided I was getting rid of it one way or another.

I wish you all the best of luck and hope you will enjoy what you see after. [:)]
I only have one request. After you get all your surgery, don't get upset if it's not exactly how you pictured in your head. Remember you will have a lot of swelling, lumps, bumps, etc....Remind yourself that it does go away. It's only temporary. Don't get discouraged. [:)]



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