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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 10:14:44 AM   
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Status: offline 		It is a common factor, but not the only one. Lots of reeeely sick skinny people.

Which is not to say that it's healthier to be thinner, all around.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 10:18:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		Lady H Of course that's not saying that. It would be. It's just a little annoying when you get it regardless of what you do or do not eat, in this case having eaten nothing at all, and then I'm told change your diet and it may go away.

Change it from what? You can't change your diet if you're not eating anything or when you are eating it's not the typical triggers. and getting heart burn, it's not like well gee dr I chow down on pizza and tomato based products and I love to guzzle hot sauce like it's water why am I getting heart burn?. That you change.



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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 11:53:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		It seems like you eat out a lot at places that serve a lot of fattening and greasy foods. Those are a huge contributor to your hearburn. And yes, I was trying to be polite when I brought up about weight being a major cause. It's not my cause because mine is being caused by a hernia but weight is a significant cause. At the weight you are at, it wouldn't matter if you ate or not or what you eat. It's simply the extra weight you are putting on your system.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 12:07:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also, tight clothing around the middle can make things worse. Especially when sitting.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 12:08:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was treated for heartburn for 6 months or so....and asthma. I'd seen three or four different doctors and they had all confirmed the diagnosis.

Turns out I had pnumonia, for something like 3 years, the lungs had swollen and were pressing on my heart and THAT devloped swelling/fluid around it. Which hurt like hell and wasnt heartburn at all.

They eventual drained about half a wine bottles worth of what looked suspiciously like cheap red wine from around my heart and treated the pnumonia (which was atypical, didnt respond well to normal anti-biotics) and it alllll went away.

Soooooo although it probably IS heartburn it might not be!

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 1:03:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sounds like you had a case of viral walking pneumonia...

My other half had bad acid reflux and heartburn, could possibly a hiatal hernia, plagued him for ages, we did everything, changed food, raised the bed, last trip when we went to see my parents I dragged him to a doc, his first suggestion was to lose some weight, while not being obese he was slightly overweight which makes it worse and suggested instead of using all the anti-acidic meds, that he simply tries to eat a small piece of something pickled, not a whole glass of pickled gherkins, not even a whole one, just a small slice. That helped a little bit, what helped him most was dropping 15 lbs.

Give it a try, even if it doesn't cure the heartburn, your joints and general health will thank you, if it cures the heartburn, you got a double win.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 2:31:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Some foods, such as oats, corn and other grains that contain gluten, can contribute to heartburn and bloating. I can't eat oatmeal, granola bars, or cereal made primarily of oat flour anymore. It doesn't matter if you had anything to eat recently that might exacerbate your symptoms, it's what you had to eat yesterday, the day before, and your diet in general. Also, as others have said, being overweight is a significant factor. I'm only 15 pounds over the ideal weight for my height and my GERD is much worse than it used to be. Start with the weight loss and go from there.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 7:51:48 PM   
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Also, tight clothing around the middle can make things worse. Especially when sitting.


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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 7:58:21 PM   
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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 8:06:32 PM   
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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/18/2012 11:13:38 PM   
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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/22/2012 3:43:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Raising the head end of the bed can also be pretty useful for GERD.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/22/2012 9:32:40 AM   
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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 8/23/2012 4:10:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I actually just recently realized about 50-75% of the chest pain I get is heartburn too : ( I didn't put it together because it wasn't happening in regards to eating. I finally realized it when I was eating something with a corset on and that induced the pain, and I put two and two together and used antacids to fix it. Granted, still going to bring it up to next doctor I see.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 9/15/2012 9:44:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have acid reflux from an overactive "proton generator" that makes a positive ion that pulls a negative to make acid or some sort of chemistry. The doctor prescribed 30mg Previcid and I take one in the morning and I'm good all day and night. I get the generic version now, much cheaper, from ourgenericpharmacy. so it might not be your diet, it could be your proton generator making too much acid. not that my diet doesn't suck!

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 9/15/2012 9:56:43 AM   
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now that bugs me! I talked to my dr and she wants me on prilosect prescription strength, and I was on it and it was working but I am out and not able to get to the pharmacy yet, so I've had constant heart burn and indigestion and gas for 4-5 days at a time. And that's 99 percent of the time not having eaten anything. The gas is more when i've eaten.

What do you think can cause heartburn, gas, and indigestion with out eating?


Sometimes when you haven't eaten it creates the issue of excess stomach acid with nothing for it to work on (digest) so your stomach acid begins eating your stomach lining.

If you haven't eaten anything and there is a long gap between meals then perhaps your body is telling you that you need to eat at more regular intervals.

A 200-300 small meal or snack 5-6 times a day may solve the issue along with not spending as much time being sedentary, especially excess time laying down.
(Moving more will be much better for your health in general)

Being sedentary tends to slow your digestion's transit time and so even though you haven't eaten in several hours there may still be food in your tummy.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 9/15/2012 7:48:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi TFB:

I'm glad to hear you're seeing your primary care physician. There are several different things that can cause heartburn--including a hiatal hernias, GERD (acid reflux), esophagus spasms, gallbladder, some meds and dozens others.

Like others have said--there ARE a few things that you can do to reduce risk factors--exercise (just be careful--when and how you exercise can help or hurt), nutrition, change in sleep position (elevating head when sleeping), weight loss....and medications are now very commonly used to control symptoms.

If you can get to a GI specialist, I suggest it. Acid reflux can cause some secondary problems so pay attention to your body--give the meds time to work and if the problems continue, keep working on solutions with your doctors until you find what works.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 9/16/2012 9:11:52 AM   
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I do not intend this to be mean spirited or hurtful:

You have a multitude of health problems that are a result of your obesity. ( joint issues, muscles issues, pre diabetes, heartburn/GERD, to name a few) The medical world cannot " solve " your issues. They can give you meds to control the SYMPTOMS, but not the cause of the problems. You have to be an active participant in your health. Period. There is no magic fix. You cannot spend your life abusing your body and expect that a Dr. can come along and make you all better if you won't do anything to work with them.

Like LaT I speak from experience. I was diagnosed with diabetes last year. I was over weight. I knew it was my lifestyle and weight that was at the root of it. It's not easy to man up and take a good hard look at yourself, I know that. When I got diagnosed with diabetes I changed my eating habits and lost 25 lbs and I started exercising. Just walking briskly 1-2 miles a day. Sometimes all at once, sometimes in 3 or 4 mini walks a day. My diabetes numbers dropped to a normal number. Recently I have been under alot of stress, taking care of my aging and ill Mother. I slacked off and started eating poorly and skipping my walks and then abandoned them. I put back 15 lbs... and guess what ? My diabetes numbers went right back up and I felt sluggish. I could blame that on the stress, but the truth is it was ME, I wasn't taking care of myself. It was a wake up call and I hopped right back on my good girl wagon and have started dropping the weight and my numbers are also dropping. I still have the stress, but I am not using it as an excuse not to take care of myself. I also have kidney disease, not from the diabetes but diagnosed when I was 39. So I have to really take care of myself. When I look to the future: if I don't take care of me now and just take a pill for my conditions, I will still be facing dialysis, heart disease and circulatory diseae. As a nurse I have seen how ugly that can be, and I want to try and avoid it.

You are a young girl, TFB. I know we thing differently in our 20's than in our 50's. I've seen more of what non compliance does to one's body, but you know what it does, you probably haven't seen it much. Seeing can be very believing as they say. Don't wait until that happens. But please do as your MDs have suggested and lose some weight. So many of your ailments will be tolerable or correctable. Our bodies can onl take so much abuse and then it betrays us.

Yes, you may have a hiatal hernia, but there is a huge association between hiatal hernias and obesity. If you were to have a hiatal hernia and they corrected it, your chances of re developing a new one is tremendous if you do not take care of your body.



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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 9/17/2012 2:32:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		As another mentions, get tested for H. Pylori (the germ than can cause ulcers than was referenced above). If you have that it can cause severe heartburn and ulcers over time, compounding the problem. The treatment is a series of antibiotics, then they test you again. If you still have it, more antibiotics until it's gone. Sometimes this can allow any ulcer you've developed to heal and/or your heartburn to get less or go away.

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RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn ev... - 10/21/2012 2:05:19 PM   
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now that bugs me! I talked to my dr and she wants me on prilosect prescription strength, and I was on it and it was working but I am out and not able to get to the pharmacy yet, so I've had constant heart burn and indigestion and gas for 4-5 days at a time. And that's 99 percent of the time not having eaten anything. The gas is more when i've eaten.

What do you think can cause heartburn, gas, and indigestion with out eating?

While acid reflux is likely your diagnosis, its more likely celiac. Try going off all bread or flour products for 2 weeks & see if symptoms disappear.

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