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Toppingfrmbottom -> I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 6:41:15 PM)

now that bugs me! I talked to my dr and she wants me on prilosect prescription strength, and I was on it and it was working but I am out and not able to get to the pharmacy yet, so I've had constant heart burn and indigestion and gas for 4-5 days at a time. And that's 99 percent of the time not having eaten anything. The gas is more when i've eaten.

What do you think can cause heartburn, gas, and indigestion with out eating?




Duskypearls -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 6:45:56 PM)

What foods do or don't go into the stomach often has no relation to whether the stomach puts out enough, too much, or not enough acid. I know, it's not always fair.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 6:48:33 PM)

I made a phone appointment to speak to her by phone tomorow. I am going to ask her what we can try to do to find out why i always have heart burn and indigestion and not just to keep saying take prescription heart burn meds and it'll be fine.




smartsub10 -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 8:07:35 PM)

Maybe you have a hiatal hernia. That would definitely cause heartburn whether you've eaten or not. I had awful heartburn for years and took Nexium. Finally, I went to see a gastroenterologist and was diagnosed with a hiatal hernia. I had surgery to repair it and Voila! no more heartburn.





littlewonder -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 8:29:24 PM)

I suffered and still suffering with heartburn for the past 3 months or so. I'm on Nexium at the moment but just had a test done that is showing I have a hiatal hernia. It really has not much to do with what I eat since every single food was giving me heartburn. It's the hernia. So now I have to go back for more tests and they will decide then what to do.

I do know however that weight and stress can cause heartburn and really won't have anything to do with what you eat.




kitkat105 -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 9:10:07 PM)

Gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) is what causes acid/indigestion/gas even when you are not eating. It is a medical condition just like any other one. There are lots of contributing factors (weight, diet, stress, etc), but usually once you've got it, you've got it for good which is why there are millions of people on medication for it.




CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 9:14:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

now that bugs me! I talked to my dr and she wants me on prilosect prescription strength, and I was on it and it was working but I am out and not able to get to the pharmacy yet, so I've had constant heart burn and indigestion and gas for 4-5 days at a time. And that's 99 percent of the time not having eaten anything. The gas is more when i've eaten.

What do you think can cause heartburn, gas, and indigestion with out eating?


What I think? Hm... First, get tested for that germ that can give you ulcers. (Anyone remember what that is?) Then get tested for hiatal hernia...while taking your meds. I don't know why you cannot get your Prilosec right now...they worked for me for YEARS and I was really bummed out when they went over the counter and my insurance wouldn't pay for them anymore. Several months back I went to a clinic and the doc wrote me a prescription for it that my insurance would pay for (generic, 20 mg two times per day)...btw, my boyfriend's doc gives him double the dose mine gave to me. Anyway, I hope you can get some relief soon.

The warfarin I'm still on drives my stomach crazy, and about two months ago I got burnt so badly with reflux that I could barely breathe so my doctor took me off of the Prilosec and put me on Dexilant. It is a MIRACLE PILL, lol. One swallow and all of my heartburn goes away for two days. I'm supposed to take one pill per day, and it's a timed release type. 60 mg

If you can go to your local library and check out a book called The Doctors 5 Minute Health Fixes (from The Doctors show on tv) on page 91 is "What your body's trying to tell you: Heartburn and GERD". The usual advice about finding your triggers and avoiding them (with me, coffee, soda pop, and mint are on that list), taking stuff like Tagament, Pepcid, or Zantac half an hour before a meal (when I was on Tagament and then Zantac, no doctor and no pharmacist told me about this), and...this last part in the book surprised me...


"Sleep like this. Don't let nighttime heartburn steal your sleep. Try waiting 3 hours to lie down after a meal. When you are in bed, sleep on your left side--that can cut your odds for heartburn in half (in contrast, sleeping on your right side relaxes the muscle that normally keeps gastric acids in your stomach). Get a wedge pillow, too. In one study published in the Archives of Internal Medicine, people who propped their heads up abourt 11 inches reduced their heartburn dramatically. And skip sleeping pills. Benzodiazepines such as diazepam, alprazolam, and triazolam doubled the risk for GERD in one study."

I am notorious for sleeping on my right side, and yep, waking up in the middle of the night with evil heartburn. Trying to give at least equal time to my left side is HARD, lol. I've been trying to compromise by sleeping on my face but then my back gets upset with me a little bit. I'm kinda screwed over the 11 inches thing, cuz I have a favorite pillow that I cannot sleep without and it is not THAT tall/fluffy. Maybe I'll find one to stick under that one.

Funny, but when I am doing Atkins diet my heartburn almost disappears (I eat meats, cheeses, and low carb veggies and berries and grapefruit), when I go back to having pasta and rice and bread my stomach goes crazy. If I have two mugs of coffee in one day I almost need a trip to the hospital (so I rarely have coffee and usually settle for just one mug full...this is awful since I was used to drinking probably a gallon or more per day).

Good luck. :)




DreamyLadySnow -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 9:24:35 PM)

Heartburn/refulx is a bear. I have suffered on and off for years. Having my gall bladder out greatly reduced it, no idea why.
I think your doc should look into WHY you are having so much heartburn. Cynthia's information is very good. My doc also said not to eat after 6, and no laying down after a meal. Both helped.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 10:00:08 PM)

Ty guys. Cynthia, I'm lucky that I do sleep on my left side naturally already. Though sometimes I fall asleep facing Daddy.




kitkat105 -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/16/2012 10:13:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: CynthiaWVirginia
What I think? Hm... First, get tested for that germ that can give you ulcers. (Anyone remember what that is?) Then get tested for hiatal hernia...while taking your meds.


Helicobacter pylori

You've given very good advice.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/17/2012 11:48:10 AM)

Ok she says that even if I do have a hiatal hernia, or an ulcer, the treatment is just going to be more prilosect. And that i really should loose weight and if I lost enough weight then maybe the issue will lesson so that any time I am off my prilosect I won't be getting searing heart burn.




SylvereApLeanan -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/17/2012 1:18:17 PM)

I have GERD and take the generic form of Prilosec. You should also cut out all forms of soda/pop, acidic foods like orange juice or tomato sauce, spicy foods such as pizza or barbecue, and greasy/fatty food such as all types of fast food and anything fried. Drink at least a liter of water a day and two would be better. If you've got an empty 2-liter cola bottle, rinse it out and fill it with water. Start drinking it when you wake up and empty it by bedtime.
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LadyHibiscus -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/17/2012 2:04:29 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I suffered and still suffering with heartburn for the past 3 months or so. I'm on Nexium at the moment but just had a test done that is showing I have a hiatal hernia. It really has not much to do with what I eat since every single food was giving me heartburn. It's the hernia. So now I have to go back for more tests and they will decide then what to do.

I do know however that weight and stress can cause heartburn and really won't have anything to do with what you eat.



While weight CAN be a factor, both LW and my mom are slender and have big issues. It's miserable, no matter what. Nexium is also good, if it gets too bad for Prilosec.




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/17/2012 8:15:27 PM)

Already good there, I don't drink soda or juice or carbonated drinks, I don't fried food or eat Spicy foods,
I hate spicy stuff cause my mouth is so sensitive to spice even table pepper bothers my mouth. Well I eat pizza every now and then, I don't find it spicy though, and i eat it so rarely it's like once every 7 months.


I loves me some water. I put it in the fridge so it's nice and cold an then drink it down plain. I drink crystal light some and ice tea from home some and i flavor it with two packets of sweet and low.
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ORIGINAL: SylvereApLeanan

I have GERD and take the generic form of Prilosec. You should also cut out all forms of soda/pop, acidic foods like orange juice or tomato sauce, spicy foods such as pizza or barbecue, and greasy/fatty food such as all types of fast food and anything fried. Drink at least a liter of water a day and two would be better. If you've got an empty 2-liter cola bottle, rinse it out and fill it with water. Start drinking it when you wake up and empty it by bedtime.
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, acidic foods like orange juice or tomato sauce, spicy foods such as pizza or barbecue, and greasy/fatty food such as all types of fast food and anything fried. Drink at least a li




Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/17/2012 8:20:05 PM)

I remember when I was 16 and a healthy weight, and eating pretty good, all the meals I are were home cooked and we were not eating lots of junk, or junky home made meals, and your average normal teenage girl, I had heartburn so bad I had to be put on prescription heart burn medications for a long time.
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

I suffered and still suffering with heartburn for the past 3 months or so. I'm on Nexium at the moment but just had a test done that is showing I have a hiatal hernia. It really has not much to do with what I eat since every single food was giving me heartburn. It's the hernia. So now I have to go back for more tests and they will decide then what to do.

I do know however that weight and stress can cause heartburn and really won't have anything to do with what you eat.



While weight CAN be a factor, both LW and my mom are slender and have big issues. It's miserable, no matter what. Nexium is also good, if it gets too bad for Prilosec.






LadyConstanze -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/18/2012 6:31:34 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

Ty guys. Cynthia, I'm lucky that I do sleep on my left side naturally already. Though sometimes I fall asleep facing Daddy.



If it's mainly on the right side, you might ask the doc to check out your gall bladder




Lucifyre -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/18/2012 9:14:52 AM)

Your problem sounds MUCH more serious than mine when I get a bit of heaartburn...with or without eating.

But in an emergent situation when my heartburn is really bothering me and I have nothing else, I will take a couple of deep swallows of whole milk. I don't know if it would work for you or anyone else, I am not a doctor (I just play one on TV) I am only telling you what sometimes works for ME.
It's a very cheap alternative to medication, or new pillows or anything else you can try. It may help supplimet the meds. Regardless of what you do, my opinion is that you should visit your doctor either way, but try the milk one evening when it's getting to you if you have nothing else on hand.

BTW, if you're lactose intolerant, forget the above bit of advice.


Hope you feel better soon!!
Lucifyre




LaTigresse -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/18/2012 9:29:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom

now that bugs me! I talked to my dr and she wants me on prilosect prescription strength, and I was on it and it was working but I am out and not able to get to the pharmacy yet, so I've had constant heart burn and indigestion and gas for 4-5 days at a time. And that's 99 percent of the time not having eaten anything. The gas is more when i've eaten.

What do you think can cause heartburn, gas, and indigestion with out eating?


TFB, I am not saying this to be cruel. I am only speaking the truth. You have heartburn because you are extremely overweight. Pure and simple.

You want to get rid of the heartburn, get rid of the gut.

I speaketh from experience.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/18/2012 9:54:19 AM)

Not true, LaT. My mom is a size six, and has Barrett's esophagus. Obesity is never a helper, but if you have a system that produces too much acid, only meds can fix it.




LaTigresse -> RE: I understand heartburn from food, but heart burn even when you haven't eaten anything? (8/18/2012 9:56:58 AM)

I was going from my own personal experience and a med research paper I read the other day on the subject.

Certainly there are SOME cases where weight is not a factor. But the facts are that weight is the most common factor.




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