RE: Microchipping

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: Microchipping

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Health and Safety >> RE: Microchipping

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

Login

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: Microchipping - 9/27/2012 7:53:53 PM

hausboy

Posts: 2360
Joined: 9/5/2010
Status: offline

Littlewonder is correct. what y'all are talking about does exist--it's a product called VeriChip. The FDA did approve but it's not a do it yourself project--it needs to be injected through a sterile needle (just like in dogs and cats) and it is not without risks for complications.
They were marketed to the healthcare industry but were picked up corporate security businesses overseas to track employees/grant access. (Didn't exactly find popularity in the states)

I'm not aware of any of my colleagues in other states who use VeriChip--it's still highly controversial and I'd have to check--it may still be considered an Investigational New Device by the FDA--which means it takes a HUGE amount of paperwork to use it.
Is it really worth it to you and your slave to risk infection, rejection by the body, etc.?

(in reply to littlewonder)

Post #: 21

RE: Microchipping - 9/29/2012 2:17:27 PM

Aswad

Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline

I'm thinking it could be fun in a community of people that go for it, but otherwise I would be left with "hmm... nice idea, but what do I do with it?".

DesFIP is right in that the commonly available variants require proximity to dedicated gear in order to work at all.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

(in reply to hausboy)

Post #: 22

RE: Microchipping - 9/29/2012 8:52:09 PM

littlewonder

Posts: 15659
Status: offline

I could see how Master would like it. While he trusts me completely and I always tell him what I'm doing for the day, but I could see him using it to scare me by just showing up at times where I am just to shock me lol. Or just for the feeling of the power and control from it, knowing that the slave really DOES NOT have any freedom whatsoever lol.

_____________________________

Nothing has changed
Everything has changed

(in reply to Aswad)

Post #: 23

RE: Microchipping - 9/29/2012 10:46:27 PM

Aswad

Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline

Yeah, that I can see.

But the OP seems to have been talking about an RFID chip, which is a small circuit the size of a rice grain. Those have no tracking and are essentially just a glorified wireless barcode. RFID chips are placed subcutaneously, which is why those aren't much more complicated than a piercing.

Logging your location is more complicated, but still within the range of what some spend on gear, at least if you've got a technical minded person on hand. And, as Johnny Mnemonic put it: I'm a very technical boy. Moving up to actual tracking gets far more involved, as there would be greater power requirements. Probably, you're talking about actual surgery to get the implant done, unless you're looking to have someone more or less assembling the unit inside your maxillary sinus (hold still, I've almost got it...), or are content to walk around with it lodged in your nose with parts piercing the cartillage. Not a very pleasant option.

Me, if I were to go for something, I would be looking into a custom collar or bracelet with a remote triggered locator and a logger which does triangulation from some well defined and stable FM radio transmitter towers that have good coverage. At minimum one buddy will have to host a second receiver to allow the locator to be triangulated without getting too expensive or fancy (and without pissing off the FCC). Around the home turf, invisible fence becomes an option, with a shock to deter moving outside the permitted areas.

I can't see myself going for that without some serious cash to burn, though.

There's easier ways to get most of the benefits, for one thing.

ETA: The pervy romantic in me thinks it's neat, though, practical difficulties aside.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

< Message edited by Aswad -- 9/29/2012 10:47:17 PM >

_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

(in reply to littlewonder)

Post #: 24

RE: Microchipping - 10/6/2012 11:50:59 AM

missnymph

Posts: 11
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline

I like the sound of the Pervy Romantic in you!

LOL

(in reply to Aswad)

Post #: 25

RE: Microchipping - 10/6/2012 12:19:34 PM

RumpusParable

Posts: 1923
Joined: 7/7/2005
From: NYC now!
Status: offline

I could see folks getting them, sure. As others have said, it's been done as well of lots of other types of implants. As long as done safely by someone who knows what they're doing, why not? Like anything, you judge the risks and act as you feel best.

Myself, after my surgeries are done, am getting silicone domed implants on my chest above my breasts. It's going to be so cute.

_____________________________

Relationships come and go, but plastination is forever.

I generally use fast-reply. If directing my post at someone specific I will indicate so.

Minimal summary: Artist, Disabled Veteran, Vegan, Pornographer, and Agender dominant female.

(in reply to missnymph)

Post #: 26

RE: Microchipping - 10/6/2012 1:37:14 PM

missnymph

Posts: 11
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline

Thank you for your comments, RP xx

(in reply to RumpusParable)

Post #: 27

RE: Microchipping - 10/6/2012 3:45:36 PM

Aswad

Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: missnymph

I like the sound of the Pervy Romantic in you!

I'm known to fantasize about doing the Captain Nemo thing, with a harem of slavegirls in a high tech submersible.

Feel free to finance it, and we'll see about adding some slaveboys to the bunch.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

(in reply to missnymph)

Post #: 28

RE: Microchipping - 10/7/2012 12:51:36 PM

missnymph

Posts: 11
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline

Hmmmmmm

Maybe we should just stick with the harem of slavegirls.....................................

(in reply to Aswad)

Post #: 29

RE: Microchipping - 10/8/2012 6:42:58 PM

Aswad

Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline

That works great for me.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

(in reply to missnymph)

Post #: 30

RE: Microchipping - 10/14/2012 5:37:22 PM

YN

Posts: 699
Status: offline

A tracker can be quite small, however internally using it should be difficult as it needs a regular power source and some type of exposed antennae to function adequately. Better as noted to use a collar or some other external attachment. A collar could support a motion, RF or solar powered electrical source along with a functional antennae.

An example -

quote:

This new tracking chip is built by S5 Wireless. The chip is smaller then a coin and is a low cost unit coming in either the chip, module or a tag ($2, $7 or $10). Batteries that power these chips have the potential to keep the device going for up to 4 years with a 2100mAh battery transmitting once every 30 minutes. Main uses for this chip could be to attach it to products, people, vehicles or pets. The chip uses signals from S5's own network of stations in some cities in the US. Eventually it will roll out to more cities and hopefully countries around the globe. Accuracy is not quite as good as GPS, but outdoors it can triangulate you to the nearest 35 feet and indoors to about the closest 45 feet. For a cheap low powered device this isn't bad at all.

http://www.gadgetvenue.com/s5-gps-like-tracking-device-is-tiny-12174830/

< Message edited by YN -- 10/14/2012 5:43:11 PM >

(in reply to Aswad)

Post #: 31

RE: Microchipping - 10/14/2012 11:36:47 PM

WhipLuvr

Posts: 9
Joined: 9/7/2012
Status: offline

I think it might be useful not only for marking ownership but for detailing any medical conditions the subject has that might put their life at risk, like diabetes, vaccination records, allergies etc. Nice and discreet, yet still there if anyone needs it.
Plus it's kinky as all hell for a tech geek like me.

Teehee...

(in reply to YN)

Post #: 32

RE: Microchipping - 10/15/2012 2:55:23 AM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

There is also the potential for abuse with the ability of "tracking" another human being.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to WhipLuvr)

Post #: 33

RE: Microchipping - 10/15/2012 5:33:43 AM

missnymph

Posts: 11
Joined: 4/1/2007
Status: offline

As i have stated previously the chip that would be inserted is for ID purposes not tracking.

The GPS tracking chips i am also looking at would be built into a piece of Jewellery like a necklace etc that can be locked onto a slave.

Thank you for your comments.

I am presently looking into the legal/medical/environmental health issues that go with this idea.

However, if/WHEN i am fully certified to carry out these procedures i will keep you informed.

Mistress N

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Post #: 34

RE: Microchipping - 10/15/2012 6:19:13 AM

tazzygirl

Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

If its in a piece of jewelry, I dont see health issues arising. We carry cell phones with GPS. So medically, if its not implanted, it shouldnt be an issue.

As far as legal... would it be like an eternity collar that can only be removed with the proper tools?

I feel like my previous post wasnt quite exact enough. The ability to "track" someone doesnt have to be by virtue of a constant stream of information. If that information is readily available to anyone with a scanner, and a submissive escapes an abusive relationship, how hard would it be for the previous owner to track down her where abouts?

For example... slave anne meets a man, they get along great. He locks a tracking chip around her throat, says... you are mine now.. and beats her. Ok.. she screwed up, first chance she gets, she is out of there.

Now, the premise I recall is that other people will be able to scan and read the chip, meaning the scanners are all reading the same chip. The ability to locate that slave has now become problematic.

Technology is great.... and with new technology comes the ability to be more abusive.

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to missnymph)

Post #: 35

RE: Microchipping - 10/15/2012 9:25:10 AM

YN

Posts: 699
Status: offline

If a cure for all cancer is developed it is certain someone will find a way to abuse it. That is the way the world works.

And while the use of gps and other radio and cell phone trackers are a mild divergence from RFID embedded chips, recall that the unique number assigned to each cell phone module or other wireless tracking device also serves as an identifier, and as even criminals and terrorists have discovered such devices can be used to identify and track them.

And there are already experiments to implant such units in people.

And whipluvr, not to the further despoilment the this thread you might inspect the OEM industrial cell phone modules, especially the medical ones. For a price of between 40 and 170 USD various very sophisticated and programmable cellullar devices and development kits can be obtained and the smaller devices are ~20mm on a side and quite thin and many either have a GPS embedded or have one as a available daughter card or unit. Most of the top end ones are Bluetooth too. And there are Bluetooth medical sensors, even in bras.

Back to the usage of RFID chips.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Post #: 36

RE: Microchipping - 10/15/2012 9:54:04 AM

Aswad

Posts: 9374
Joined: 4/4/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

There is also the potential for abuse with the ability of "tracking" another human being.

There is great potential for abuse with power exchange, period. For me and neph, one of the exciting bits is me having the means and opportunity to abuse her, without doing so. You might call it a trust trip, a power trip or a vulnerability trip, and either of those is probably right. The downside to that is, of course, that if I should ever turn into a psycho bastard from hell, she would be screwed.

If the abusive party is savvy enough to use an implanted RFID chip to track a former partner, and sufficiently messed up to actually do so, chances are the former partner is going to be SOL no matter what. In essence, this doesn't really seem to add anything new in terms of risk. Bear in mind that the range of an RFID chip is at most a hundred feet, with the vast majority having a practical range on the order of ten feet or so. Having a scanner is one thing. Being close enough to use it is another.

Granted, that's just "at a glance", worth maybe 2¢, making it a bargain at the price you paid for it.

IWYW,
— Aswad.

_____________________________

"If God saw what any of us did that night, he didn't seem to mind.
From then on I knew: God doesn't make the world this way.
We do." -- Rorschack, Watchmen.

(in reply to tazzygirl)

Post #: 37

RE: Microchipping - 10/21/2012 1:45:39 PM

theRose4U

Posts: 3403
Joined: 8/22/2005
Status: offline

Ok my .02 just because insight outweighs personal embarassment:
I have an RFID chip like you are talking about! (Please hold the shock) the "sanitary implant gun" you are talking about IS NOT for human use!!! I got mine backing into a clinic table & literally got shot in the ass. A compartmental cyst now surrounds the chip because its not sanitized to human standards, the guns are re-usable also creating infection hazards, they hurt BADLY if you get an MRI because of the metal & almost 9 years later can't find a doctor that believes me enough to take it out.
So all ethical arguements aside this is a disfiguring procedure that will cause your body to react as any other foreign body by encapsulating. Infection, odd pains & no one willing to remove it are also contrindications.

_____________________________

Finding a good sub is like sifting through trail mix. You find a few fruits, a lotta nuts and have to sift to get to the sweet and special ones
drama llama

(in reply to littlewonder)

Post #: 38

RE: Microchipping - 10/21/2012 1:50:21 PM

Bemyprize

Posts: 43
Joined: 9/26/2012
Status: offline

You already have a microchip, its called a cell phone and you can see EXACTLY where she/he/__ is within 10' from another country.

Sorry about the pain rose, but the visual is just funny. No one wants to take it out... oh dear.... is it still working?

Michael...,

(in reply to theRose4U)

Post #: 39

RE: Microchipping - 10/21/2012 1:59:54 PM

theRose4U

Posts: 3403
Joined: 8/22/2005
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL:

Sorry about the pain rose, but the visual is just funny. No one wants to take it out... oh dear.... is it still working?

Michael...,

Sadly yes, having to step back from my dog when I see **** 9199 come up & ask them to re-scan is always a little confusing to staff. When I quiety explain they usually tell me they've been vaccinated for rabies, bird flu or parvo the same way. :(

_____________________________

Finding a good sub is like sifting through trail mix. You find a few fruits, a lotta nuts and have to sift to get to the sweet and special ones
drama llama

(in reply to Bemyprize)

Post #: 40

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Health and Safety >> RE: Microchipping

Page: << < prev 1 [2] 3 next > >>

Jump to:

New Messages	No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages	Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages	Locked w/o New Messages

Post New Thread

Reply to Message

Post New Poll

Submit Vote

Delete My Own Post

Delete My Own Thread

Rate Posts

Collarchat.com © 2025

Terms of Service

0.109