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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 6:50:44 AM   
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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 6:52:32 AM   
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I dont. Pro-choice means just that. It would not be my choice, but other women should have the right to that choice.

Is that really so hard for you to figure out?


So can I be pro-choice about slavery? After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice? Slavery was legal at one time too.

They are both human lives. It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.


No, you cannot be pro slavery. Its illegal. At this moment, abortions are legal.

Pro-choice does not mean pro-death.

When they develop a way to incubate a fetus without a woman, then I would agree with your argument 100%.. Until that time, and until the fetus reaches the age of viability, then it is her choice.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 6:52:46 AM   
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This being said, I find it a bit hypocritical for people who are pro-choice and for killing Down's Syndrome and other developmentally disabled children in utero and then choose to find offense in the word "retarded".


That's not finding. That's not finding. Let me clarify.

Pro-choice is the notion that society shouldn't force a woman to carry to term or prohibit doctors from assisting her in whatever she decides to do about her own body. Eugenics, on the other hand, is the notion that killing defective foetuses should be a widespread practice. You might see more clearly now how some might find it a bit offensive when you conflate the two concepts, and how those concepts have precisely nothing to do with disparaging living people or the time of day in China

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 6:56:39 AM   
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I dont. Pro-choice means just that. It would not be my choice, but other women should have the right to that choice.

Is that really so hard for you to figure out?


So can I be pro-choice about slavery? After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice? Slavery was legal at one time too.

They are both human lives. It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.


No, you cannot be pro slavery. Its illegal. At this moment, abortions are legal.

Pro-choice does not mean pro-death.

When they develop a way to incubate a fetus without a woman, then I would agree with your argument 100%.. Until that time, and until the fetus reaches the age of viability, then it is her choice.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 7:06:03 AM   
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So can I be pro-choice about slavery?


Sure. I am.

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After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice?


You can absolutely run in the election on a platform of reintroducing slavery (ownership optional, of course).

I doubt you will get much support, but you have every right to try.

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Slavery was legal at one time too.


Which has nothing to do with anything else.

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They are both human lives.


For some definition thereof, sure. But by some of those definitions, I commit genocide whenever I have sex.

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It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.


See, here's where you're already pro-slavery altogether: you're saying if a woman doesn't care to put in the time, effort and resources to serve as a cocoon so the parasite within her can turn into a beautiful baby, then the state should force her to dedicate her body and mind in hard labor (pun intended) to satisfy some people in the society around her.

And here's where you're posting nonsense: I can live, while a foetus cannot. Should a woman decide not to sponsor me in life, that's fine, and her right of choice. Should a woman decide to stab me, that's not fine, and constitutes murder. The point of disagreement is whether a woman should be forced to sponsor a foetus in life.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 8:23:17 AM   
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I dont. Pro-choice means just that. It would not be my choice, but other women should have the right to that choice.

Is that really so hard for you to figure out?


So can I be pro-choice about slavery? After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice? Slavery was legal at one time too.

They are both human lives. It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.

Why cant we be pro choice in the US about drawing and quartering? Stoning? OHHHHHHHHHHHHH I have a good one. Let's be pro choice about hunting Native americans like vermin.

Pro choice does not mean pro abortion in spite of all the koolaid you've been fed.
Why is it that those who are Anti-choice wish to force a woman to carry every fetus to full term but if that baby needs millions of dollars worth of specialized care, it's "Sorry bitch, you shouldn't have been such a slut"

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 9:13:44 AM   
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I dont. Pro-choice means just that. It would not be my choice, but other women should have the right to that choice.
Is that really so hard for you to figure out?

So can I be pro-choice about slavery? After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice? Slavery was legal at one time too.
They are both human lives. It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.


Good Lord, no. Slavery is very much different from abortion. Slavery removes rights, consent, and authority from someone who has them, or is due them, while abortion does not do that. The majority of abortions are done prior to viability of the fetus, and, legal guardianship is still on the prego, so the fetus doesn't have consent or authority yet. Once the child is born, however (although I think this should happen at the age of viability), basic human rights are granted.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 9:18:38 AM   
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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 9:55:45 AM   
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I'm not a big fan of Ann Coulter (just as I'm not a fan of Rush). This being said, I find it a bit hypocritical for people who are pro-choice and for killing Down's Syndrome and other developmentally disabled children in utero and then choose to find offense in the word "retarded".


Your definition of "pro choice" is less than accurate. It does, however, indicate a complete lack of honesty in your post.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 10:04:28 AM   
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So can I be pro-choice about slavery? After all, if I want to make someone my slave (whether or not they want to be one) shouldn't that be my choice?


A cursory glance at the constitution might disabuse you of this moronic belief
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Slavery was legal at one time too.

So was slapping the shit out of mouthy moronic cunts...are you advocating a return to such?

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They are both human lives.

Not according to any med school licensed to teach medicine in this country.
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It isn't JUST the woman involved in abortion, so no, she shouldn't have the right to kill someone just because she doesn't want to carry that child to term.

Which med school teaches that a fetus is a "someone"?

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 10:22:55 AM   
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So was slapping the shit out of mouthy moronic cunts...are you advocating a return to such?


COnsidering what site we are on, I think thats a bit of a leading question

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 1:13:53 PM   
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Why cant we be pro choice in the US about drawing and quartering? Stoning? OHHHHHHHHHHHHH I have a good one. Let's be pro choice about hunting Native americans like vermin.


Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 1:15:46 PM   
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Once the child is born, however (although I think this should happen at the age of viability), basic human rights are granted.


It pretty much is... to a point. Abortion on demand is no longer an option in most states at that point. And, where it is, a Doctor can refuse.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 1:24:31 PM   
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many pro-lifers (not all, but some) are all gung ho about saving babies but mysteriously disappear until such children get to the age where they can vote or serve in the military. then they're useful again.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 2:33:10 PM   
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So was slapping the shit out of mouthy moronic cunts...are you advocating a return to such?


COnsidering what site we are on, I think thats a bit of a leading question


Are you accusing me of trolling?

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 2:35:50 PM   
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subspaceseven said what i was thinking.

many pro-lifers (not all, but some) are all gung ho about saving babies but mysteriously disappear until such children get to the age where they can vote or serve in the military. then they're useful again.



Are these not the self same people who advocate retroactive birth control/abortion?
ie:the body bag lotto in the sand box and other venues.
Capital punishment.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 5:03:30 PM   
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I found this incredibly moving. Others may too.


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Come on Ms. Coulter, you aren’t dumb and you aren’t shallow. So why are you continually using a word like the R-word as an insult?

I’m a 30 year old man with Down syndrome who has struggled with the public’s perception that an intellectual disability means that I am dumb and shallow. I am not either of those things, but I do process information more slowly than the rest of you. In fact it has taken me all day to figure out how to respond to your use of the R-word last night.

. . .

After I saw your tweet, I realized you just wanted to belittle the President by linking him to people like me. You assumed that people would understand and accept that being linked to someone like me is an insult and you assumed you could get away with it and still appear on TV.

Complete letter at Special Olympics blog


Bias alert: I have a goddaughter with severe cerebral palsy.



I RARELY use this word but...Ann Coulter is a cunt. I wish there was a more horrible word to describe ANY human being.

Personified.

Veritable Webster description.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 8:45:58 PM   
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I'm skeptical of the letter's authenticity. It read to me like a normal person writing as someone who is mentally disabled. My brother was mentally handicapped and I have associated with many others having grown up with him. I don't see someone writing to Ann Coulter in the fashion of the letter circulating on the internet.

Has there been any confirmation of the author.


There sre lots of manifestations of Downs. The lady on the first floor of my building has a daughter with Downs. She is about 40 and she works at and writes curriculum for the Ladd School. She has the obvious appearance of a Downs person, but seems very high functioning.
Don't feel badly. Before I moved here I wasn't aware just how functional some ogf the folks are.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/25/2012 8:48:49 PM   
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Ann Coulter is a cunt. I wish there was a more horrible word to describe ANY human being.

Personified.

Veritable Webster description.


Well there's "Right Wing Pundit" but that's really a phrase.

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RE: A "Retard" Answers Ann Coulter - 10/26/2012 1:04:10 AM   
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I want you to process and understand what I am about to tell you!

I made it my life's work to teach special needs person's to speak and write so
other would understand them!

It is the greatest joy that you can not even began to understand, for someone
not to believe that a person with special needs can not write or read is so blindly silly
and I wanted to use the S word, but I thought it would be best not to use it on you!!!

It may take them longer then the others to learn but once they learn it they keep it, for shame on
you! This is for you not to beleive they can and do achieve this, makes me wonder what would happen
if you had a child with this special needs?

Throw them away, place them in a home where no one could see them?

So many questions for you and I wonder why you would think that this person could not do this and so much
more!!!!

Those children are now remembering all I had taught them it took 2 years of love and hard work!
Each time it was the end of their term and new ones were coming, I cried so hard it hurt the trust they had in
me, well they would call me Mommy!!!!!

That was an honor I will never forget, it will stay in my heart for always and a lifetime!

Do not judge by what you think it smart or intelligent, but by the person character and they self
worth!!!

Ann Coulter is a mean beast and she is only their to spread her evil ways!

I hope you will rethink your narrow mind thoughts!

If I seems a little over the top it is becasue someone needs to explain, look beyond the
cover, it is more then just a book!!!!

best regards

Mons

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