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RE: Age and experience... - 12/5/2012 5:32:52 PM   
soldierlvr


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@SimplyMichael, I don't want or need your support. In fact, nothing you have said was supportive except saying you wish us well. But, thank you for your well wishes anyway.
@DesFip, Telling someone that they should or should not have children is crossing the line, especially when then conversation should have never even been steered in that direction.

I did not even mean to come off as defensive until the child comment was made. I was just trying to state my opinion and support why I believe what I said. I don't understand why when you all say what you do it is not defensive, but no matter what I say it is. Yes, I did defend my Master when negative things were said about him, and I always will, but until negative things were being said about us, I was simply sharing our experiences and my opinion. I thought this was, in fact, a place to give an opinion without being personally attacked. And, being told I don't need to have kids is a personal attack.

I even agreed that in most cases, age does mean more experience. But that is not ALWAYS the case. I was simply trying to give my opinion. I am done though and will not be commenting anymore as there is no point because I genuinely do no want to argue with anyone. But, saying I will not be a good mother was FUCKED UP and if you don't think so then you aren't the type of person I can respect anyways. I am not a teenager. I have been married almost two years to a man I love more than anything in the world. He has a job where he can support us and we can support a child. None of you know me as a person, so you have no way to know if I am ready for kids or not. Just because we left home at 17 we will be bad parents? That is the dumbest logic ever. Especially since he left home at 17 because he was so smart he went to college early. Maybe his parents should have helped him financially more than they did when he went to college, but I think starting college at 17 is an accomplishment, not a bad thing. Kids should have never even been brought up. If I was 16 or 18 and not married and jumping from man to man like so many girls having kids nowadays, your comment would have been valid, but that is not the case. I will be a wonderful mother. And, yes, I am defensive about this. We have been trying for a long time to get pregnant and it is not happening and I may not even be able to have children because of genetic conditions. So, I am so sorry that I offended so many people by saying that age does not necessarily reflect experience. I am sorry that so many of you think I had a bad childhood because I left home at 17. And it is very sad to assume that because we have both had bad relationships in the past that this one is unhealthy, because it is not, and if any of you knew us, you would know that.If anything, our past relationships have taught us and helped us grow into better people. But, you don't know me and I don't know any of you and I did not personally attack anyone. And I sure as HELL didn't tell anyone they were unfit to be a parent. So, I'm done. I sincerely hope you all have a nice night and lovely lives.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/5/2012 5:42:31 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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FR...

From zero to big time butthurt in 2.3 seconds. I think I have a new fave thread of the week!

And no, that wasnt intended for Michael. Slow typing on a smartphone. Sorry...Im old lol

Soldierlvr, I fail to see where anyone said anything negative about your master. Michael actually is right. To someone your age, he works well for you and there is nothing wrong with that. But to someone (say) my age, it just doesnt work because I am at a different place in life mentally and emotionally than he is. Quite honestly, your 23 year old master would not rock my world at all. Im speaking as a 39 year old woman. Laying aside the fact that Im not submissive of course, which would be another reason he wouldnt rock my world either. You came in here ass aflame at a perceived slight against your master....where none existed.

I frankly got the same impression from your childhoods as DesFIP did based on how you worded things. You made it sound like a pretty harsh childhood filled with having to be forced to grow up well before kids should have to grow up.

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Nobody said it is the only thing. But it is one of many factors.

I will say though that since you admit you both came from bad home environments where you were not supported and allowed to mature in a more organic manner instead of having to learn to cope with certain things overnight, that you do not have the knowledge to raise children allowing them to mature on a more even keel.

17 year olds should not be forced to be on their own. They learn certain skills in order to survive safely but there's a whole raft of other things that they don't have the luxury to learn which they will need in later years in order to prevent repeating this with their own kids.

Because of your life experiences people are saying you are mature for your age, not mature in general. Obviously judging by his ex and by your defensiveness, he still has a lot of growing up to do in order to pick healthy partners. You will notice that I did not say posers or fake or real or true. What matters more is healthy vs unhealthy.


I fail to see ANYWHERE where DesFIP said ANYTHING about you not being a good mother.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/7/2012 11:49:53 AM   
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I didn't say it, but I do advise Ms Butthurt to deal with her issues before she inflicts them on her kids. Learn to be a better parent than yours were. Demand he learns the same. Parent Effectiveness Training is a good program but group therapy to deal with your dysfunctional family backgrounds is essential.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/7/2012 4:08:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact


This isn't much different in other places where time in makes a difference. I don't know how many second lieutenants that have earned the respect that goes with the rank. Frankly, I'd deal with a First Sergeant instead any day of the week because he generally knows what he's doing.


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RE: Age and experience... - 12/17/2012 2:40:15 PM   
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Age only means experience if you've done anything.
I think maturity is the main concern in regards to age.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/17/2012 5:28:21 PM   
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quote:

I think that saying that is putting everyone into a box. My Master has been through more at his age than most people twice his age. I am 25 myself and have probably been through more than you have. Some people don't have the luxury of waiting until they are 18 to become an "adult". Some of us are forced into that much younger.


You have a point but generally people get wiser and gain experience as they get older. You would probably admit that you know much more today than you did 10 years ago. That never stops. When you reach 33 you will look back and shake your head thinking about all the things you don't know now that you will learn over the next 10 years.

To the OP: Let me share some wisdom I learned over the years. Some are saying you are too young and inexperienced right now. Get used to it. It won't be too long and there will be some that will tell you that you are too old. Women have different things they are looking for and age is a criteria that they do use. Some are young and want older men, some are older and want younger men, and others want men pretty close to their own age. But you will never be at an age where all women want you at.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/17/2012 9:42:51 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: toxic66
To the OP: Let me share some wisdom I learned over the years. Some are saying you are too young and inexperienced right now. Get used to it. It won't be too long and there will be some that will tell you that you are too old. Women have different things they are looking for and age is a criteria that they do use. Some are young and want older men, some are older and want younger men, and others want men pretty close to their own age. But you will never be at an age where all women want you at.

Well, maybe not the OP but just last week... Thursday if I remember, at 2 minutes past midnight all women wanted me for a total of 1.762 seconds. It's kind of like Brownian motion in the collective human psyche.


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RE: Age and experience... - 12/31/2012 1:58:14 AM   
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In a lot of cases, yes, experience matters, however, being seriously into the lifestyle for 10 years gives you more experience than playing in the lifestyle for 25 years. I personally have been in the lifestyle for about 25 years. I have a lot of experience, but it does not mean that someone younger doesn't have any experience. People need to judge a person for what that person is and what they stand for rather than age. you are young, but you seem to be a very serious young man. I believe if you continue, you will make a good Master. You are serious and not a player. When people tell you you sre too young to have any expereince, ask them how much serious expereince they have. This is the key.

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RE: Age and experience... - 12/31/2012 8:59:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: wulfelaw



And here's the point where many say "Bullshit, you're only 25, you're not old enough." Honestly it makes me laugh. I see a lot of people on here in their mid thirties, mid forties, and 50+ who claim to be dominant (both male and female), yet their behavior speaks volumes to the contrary.

Now, I'll be the first the tip my hat in respect to my elders, just on principle, being how I was raised. However, quite a few of them are going through mid-life crises, just getting out of a nasty divorce, or in some other way jaded about their life or just plain perving on kinky people. I throw my hands up in disgust when I see these people get the same blanket respect and adoration that their "peers" do, when said peers have lived this lifestyle longer than I've been alive. Its annoying.


I may regret not reading through 5 pages of comments before making my very first comment to this board, but your experience is very common: Young man feels shame and disrespected after a series of sexual rejections. He looks around and discovers the problem is not with him!

As you get older, you will also figure out everyone else's wonderful life isn't so wonderful. Meanwhile, find something else to base your self worth and respect on rather than females who do or do not want to have sex with you. Some ideas: an admired and successful career, your own business, collecting money in the bank, building an orphanage with your bare hands.

And whats wrong with perving on kinky people?

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