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theRose4U -> RE: need some help with my man (11/2/2012 6:42:22 AM)
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ORIGINAL: LonDom61
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
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ORIGINAL: theRose4U
In turkey kink is illegal AND WILL GET YOU KILLED!!! Do not under any circumstances tell this man (especially if he's muslim) anything about kink or tying up!!!!! You can legally be stoned to death in the street & no one could do anything about it. ...
Please educate yourself beyond your silly American notions of what "Muslim" countries are like before you go of and spout idiotic nonsense when you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about.
What in the world would give you the idiotic and bizarre idea that stoning is legal in Turkey, when that's not only blatantly false, but it also hasn't been true at any time in recent memory?
Very true Ull.
If you define recent as 8 years. And if there haven`t been others since this one.
Turkey is a modern country, that doesn't follow Sharia law, being kinky isn't at all illegal there. And even IF it actually was... there isn't a chance in hell they'd stone a person to death for it...
Yeah, Rose. How DARE you make a 2 minute forum post without doing a couple of hours or more of online research first!
ahem
I did some research. Took me about 20 minutes to find the following, and more:
Mist: I will take your word for it about not eating people. But regarding stoning...
Until 2003 or so It WAS LEGAL. They changed the law to qualify as a modern country worthy of entering the EU. That made them one of the TWO Muslim countries in which it is illegal.
So Rose...how could you possibly have failed to realize that, though stoning is legal in all other Muslim countries in the world except one...it isnt in Turkey.
But it is still practiced by the people.
NY Times, 13 Jul 2003, 'Honor Killings' Defy Turkish Efforts to End Them
YAYLIM, Turkey — Last month a woman named Cemse Allak was buried in a corner of a municipal cemetery here. Ms. Allak, unmarried and pregnant, had died from a stoning.
Villagers and local lawyers said Ms. Allak -- as well as the man who had made her pregnant -- had been killed to restore the honor of their families.
For seven months after her stoning, Ms. Allak lay semi-conscious, her skull crushed, unable to move or speak. Relatives visited once, in the beginning, to tell the hospital staff that they could not pay for her care. The fetus inside Ms. Allak died six weeks after the attack.
When Ms. Allak died on June 7, no one from her family claimed her body, and none of her relatives attended the funeral.
The death of Ms. Allak, 35, underscores the distance between legislative pronouncements emanating from Ankara, Turkey's modern capital, and the sometimes grim, medieval realities of everyday life in other parts of the country.
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The stoning of Mr. Acil and Ms. Allak appeared to follow in the tradition of recm, which is, according to villagers here, the religiously sanctioned trial and stoning of a dishonored woman or man by an entire village.
http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2011/02/throwing_stones_in_turkey.html
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With the Islamists’ Rise to Power, Turkey Became the World’s Leading Hotspot of Honour Killings
Tuesday, 10 April 2012 01:41 M. A. Khan
To educated Muslims, honor killing has nothing to do with Islam and Turkey is the only "role model" Islamic country, because in all other Muslim countries, honor killing occurs. Unfortunately, after the Islamists came to power in 2002 and opened the gates of gradual Islamization of Turkey, after 8 decades of strict secular rule, Turkey has risen to be the world's "number one honor killing country", with a killing rate 5 times higher than that of Pakistan, known to be notorious for honor killing.
The Quran and hadiths prohibit adultery, apostasy, fornication, and homosexuality etc. And Muslim societies, since the days of Prophet Muhammad, have punished such offenders, normally by killing them, in perfect harmony with sanctions of the Quran, Sunnah and the Sharia.
http://islam-watch.org/authors/65-khan/984-with-the-islamists-rise-to-power-turkey-became-the-worlds-leading-hotspot-of-honour-killings.html
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You might say -well, thats for adultery. not kink- But the prohibition includes homosexuality and fornication. Basically, if its not required, its forbidden. You think the shit we do could never count, in the perspective of a Muslim fundamentalist, as fornication .qm
Its not the government. They have been anti-stoning for almost 10 years now. So much for Ull and her -recent memory-. Its the people who havent yet gotten the memo.
Of course that is Muslim on Muslim violence. Our friend here is from Norway. And her sweetie, she has told us, is not Muslim either.
We know that Muslims never get violent to impose their values on non-Muslims. Right
I have been guilty, above, of bringing Islam into this conversation. This post too. But I had to refute Ull and her high handed flaming of Rose. And set the record straight.
And yes, it is relevant from the standpoint of what if she is outed.
But lets get back to the OP. She wants to know how to deal with her boyfriend.
Lol lon stop it, your cranium is turning me on [8D][:D]
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