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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 6:58:41 AM   
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That antipathy does seem to be a hallmark of our CM "independents."


I'm an independent and I'm voting for Obama... though it is more a vote against Romney (and Ryan, who scares the shit outta me) than for Obama.

Better the devil you know.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 6:58:54 AM   
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I don't know, the nazi right sort of rioted in Iraq. I don't know if that was before or after they were shooed out of the Minneapolis Airport Bathroom stalls or not tho.......

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:02:29 AM   
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Besides an on-air stroke from Chris Mathews, that would have me tuning in to MSNBC for extra lolz, what reaction can be expected from the libs/left, if the President is soundly and unquestionably fired by the American people next Tuesday?




The american people do not elect the president and never have. Almost everyone who has taken civics in the sixth grade knows that the electoral college appoints the president.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:17:20 AM   
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...what reaction can be expected from the libs/left, if the President is soundly and unquestionably fired by the American people next Tuesday?

Probably a much better reaction that can be expected from the reactionaries/right if he isn't.
Or have all of the neocons in here forgotten the "Brooks Brothers riot" when it looked like Gore might win the Florida recount back in 2000?

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:18:16 AM   
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entitlement mentality of the socialist left


lol

Try entitlements in the tune of 100 Billion this year. Thats incredible, isnt it?

I mean, really.,.. how dare those leftists... oh wait.... my bad... thats corporate entitlements.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:21:44 AM   
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...what reaction can be expected from the libs/left, if the President is soundly and unquestionably fired by the American people next Tuesday?

Probably a much better reaction that can be expected from the reactionaries/right if he isn't.
Or have all of the neocons in here forgotten the "Brooks Brothers riot" when it looked like Gore might win the Florida recount back in 2000?


I wonder if anyone here will own up to that.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:22:20 AM   
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We've already seen how the right reacts...with peaceful protests/assemblies and other political mobilization. Given the entitlement mentality of the socialist left


Were you not aware of the entitlement mentality of bill gates,ted turner ,adm,cargill etc?


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as well as acrimony over supposed historical injustices,


Did they not teach american history where you went to school? Were you not aware of the policy of extermination of native americans that was in place from george washington forward?

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I wouldn't be surprised to see a much less peaceful response if the election were to be lost.

Is it your considered opinion that the american revolution was a peaeful response to unredressed grevences?

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:26:04 AM   
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...what reaction can be expected from the libs/left, if the President is soundly and unquestionably fired by the American people next Tuesday?

Probably a much better reaction that can be expected from the reactionaries/right if he isn't.
Or have all of the neocons in here forgotten the "Brooks Brothers riot" when it looked like Gore might win the Florida recount back in 2000?


I wonder if anyone here will own up to that.

Fat chance.
They're unlikely even to admit that the Chimp was appointed by the Electoral College rather than winning a popular vote, let alone that stopping the recount before it had gone through the whole State was illegal under both Federal and State law...

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:28:02 AM   
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And yet he got away with it.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:30:11 AM   
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Yep. Which does make all of the bleating about ACORN and voter fraud look more than a little pathetic, doesn't it?

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 7:33:57 AM   
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We can only thank our living upright walking god that it wasn't a Beau Brummel riot. 

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 8:23:20 AM   
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Brooks Brothers Riot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_k0iORUZg

Guess where the Brooks Brothers rioters are now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TqEy7mzQKQ

Rachel Maddow

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 8:40:18 AM   
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Gosh, really?
Who'd'a thunk it?

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 8:43:02 AM   
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Teabaggers and Kochs unite!!! 

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 10:04:15 AM   
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We've already seen how the right reacts...with peaceful protests/assemblies and other political mobilization. Given the entitlement mentality of the socialist left


Were you not aware of the entitlement mentality of bill gates,ted turner ,adm,cargill etc?



I've always thought that it's testimony to the efficacy of the Right's propaganda machine that it's managed to convince so many that 'entitlement mentality' is an apt term of contempt for those scrabbling for peanuts at the bottom rather than the bloated millionaires at the top. I think even Marx would have applauded.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 10:06:12 AM   
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No, Marx would have sighed a weary and disgusted sigh and then gone looking for a cat to kick.

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 12:19:07 PM   
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supposed historical injustices

Okay, I'm home sick, and time's moving slowly. So I'll bite.

What might these "supposed historical injustices" be?

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 5:47:29 PM   
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We've already seen how the right reacts...with peaceful protests/assemblies and other political mobilization. Given the entitlement mentality of the socialist left


Were you not aware of the entitlement mentality of bill gates,ted turner ,adm,cargill etc?



I've always thought that it's testimony to the efficacy of the Right's propaganda machine that it's managed to convince so many that 'entitlement mentality' is an apt term of contempt for those scrabbling for peanuts at the bottom rather than the bloated millionaires at the top. I think even Marx would have applauded.

Groucho for sure karl maybe

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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/2/2012 9:15:28 PM   
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Good subject that, entitlements, subsidies, etc.

The largest corporations have worked hard in lobbying and putting their people in the right spots in the 'regulatory' agencies, for years, and after all that hard work and expense, they deserve the rewards, wouldn't you think?

Hitting the jackpot, the oil industry succeeded in combining the largest two companies into ExxonMobile, followed by the third and fourth largest, Chevron and Texaco, all running roughshod over previous notions of anti-trust regulation and constraint of monopoly power via greater competition. After that, seven of the top ten most profitable companies were in oil, for some years, and the financial 'industry' accounted for more than 40% of the US GDP in the years leading up to the bust. Oh, what a boon to society and the well being of the country that was.

Well, if the world's post profitable (essentially, by definition, oil) company, by more than twice number two Microsoft doesn't deserve every tax break, oil depletion allowance, exploration scam tax write-off ( which can pay 7% return to the investor, directly from the treasury, even if no oil found), and a plethora of other 'considerations' from the government, then who does?

If those freaking poor people want more from the government, well they can just damn well pony up the hundreds of millions that the pharma, agro-chem, oil, and of late most conspicuously, the finance industry, to "get theirs" from the US treasury, (well into the $trillions), they can just hire their own lobbyists and put 'their guy' into the vice presidency, and the defense secretary, and the secretary of the treasury, and the heads of all the regulatory agencies, just like Goldman Sachs and everybody else (who has multi-millions) does.


If the poor can't afford the many millions that it takes to get heard in this country, then they are just too lazy to do it. We know that much, because the mega-conglomerate media have been blasting it into our ears ever since the media regulations got relaxed to the extent that we went from 50 companies owning the largest media markets in 1980 to now just 6 corporations owning nearly all media... such who just so happen to have large holdings in oil, finance, pharma, agro-chem ....


Like I said, if the poor feel themselves to be under-represented ... this ain't 1776 anymore.

If the lower, middle and upper regions of what was considered the "middle class" want themselves heard, ... tough luck. Hhard to buy a politician while dealing with a foreclosure or short sale. "Sucks to be you" is what we've been taught. Look the other way, lucky it was them instead of me, etc.

You want it ("democracy")? You buy it. If you don't have the money for it, it's only because of your laziness and lack of initiative. Somebody bought more government than you or your company did. You got out-bid. Sucks to be you, good luck with the short sale.

You can vote for one guy's assemblage of corporate designates, or the other guy's assemblage of corporate designates, because that's all we have now.

Good luck, folks






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RE: How will the left react, if Obama loses? - 11/3/2012 9:05:22 AM   
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So then we can put you down for denial of even the possibility, Mike?

Soup of the day on Wednesday, November 7 - angry liberal tears. Sounds yummy!

Yeah Rich,I've thought about it,I've looked at the polls,the different web sites(basically gathered as much information as I could)and you can put me "down for denial of even the possibility "
This isn't going to go the way you would like Rich,so it just might be prudent of you to change that whole soup of the day menu.
What snappy name you give the soup is up to you(soup naming is so beneath me,I like to operate on a higher plane).

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