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RE: A quandary - 11/10/2012 8:11:53 AM

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You're correct, of course. I swapped them by accident.

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RE: A quandary - 11/10/2012 8:15:59 AM

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I was hoping to catch you in time for you to edit :(

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RE: A quandary - 11/10/2012 1:43:53 PM

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Oh, well, I'll just edit it and repost.

Rewritten for VAT; please forgive any discontinuities (I didn't get the quotes from the pulled post for context):

As far as I can tell, the average child of previous generations where I live has not enjoyed more innocence at any point in the past twelve centuries or so than they do now. For the most part, it seems to me that it is parents that enjoy the innocence of children, which is a habit our culture has largely imported from the USA, actually.

Of course, predators also enjoy the innocence of children, particularly when artificially bolstered by well-meaning parents. Note that I'm not suggesting that parents are setting their kids up for those intentionally, but rather that they do so unintentionally, out of ignorance and good intentions.

There is no single standard that is universal.

A pulled post asserted that the poster would've been traumatized by seeing the genitals of the opposite sex as a child.

I cannot agree. For one thing, it just doesn't happen where I live. If Alice and Christie are of the same ethnicity, living in two different cultures, and seeing a cock traumatizes Alice, but doesn't traumatize Christie, then it is the difference- the culture- that causes Alice to be traumatized. And we know the reactions from the environment can absolutely be traumatizing to a child. The only alternative explanation I can come up with would be if Alice were, as an individual, too fragile to deal with reality.

There's never been any gender separation in my home, or the homes of anyone I know here that wasn't part of some cult growing up. This helps to equip them with a normal relationship to their bodies and those of others, whereas a shameful relation to the body is just grooming people for all sorts of fancy extra kinks. Now, I don't mind kinks in any way, but these include harmful pathologies, and that is a problem.

As regards transpeople, reality and nature support a blurring of gender lines, as does the law. One may, of course, fight the laws of humans, nature and reality, but I'm not about to laud the effort. Normal children process this sort of thing at whatever age it's presented to them. Reservations about the human body and its variations are taboos originating with the parents. Please don't try to inflict your own taboos on everyone else's kids; no need to let the damage spread.

Lastly, I would note that some cultures are creepily obsessed about sex.

The culture exported from the USA is one of those.

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< Message edited by Aswad -- 11/10/2012 1:44:12 PM >

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RE: A quandary - 11/14/2012 12:24:57 AM

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In reference to the actual situation this OP is about, I believe, as others have mentioned that a pre-op TG would likely want to "shield" their dangling bits from public view as it contradicts psychologically their feelings of feminity. After all, they are going through all the other changes so they can present themselves as much like other females as possible. Therefore, I would think that for the TG's benefit, as much as the people around her, an area where she could change privately would add to HER comfort.

As for sitting naked in a sauna, without anything covering the genetalia/bottom, I think it is pretty nasty regardless of what you have down below. Much like the town who insisted the nudists not sit bare assed on public seating, it is just unhygenic.

Now regarding the co-ed bathrooms in France or where ever else they might be. Personally, I would rather not conduct those bodily functions in front of others. I don't consider it prudish, but there are things that I do think a person should do in private. I have no issue with co-ed/communal bathrooms per se, however, I do support having stalls for people to use the toilets in private. I am not a fan of the communal dressing rooms either. Not because I am a prude, but because on the few occasions I might be out trying on clothes, I'm not looking for a general consensus on how they look from the rest of the people in the dressing room.

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RE: A quandary - 1/9/2013 12:18:16 AM

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I seem to be reading a lot of "in my country" statements as though "in my country we know what is right."

Something right in one person's country doesn't make it right in another's. And just because you cannot agree because something doesn't happen where YOU live, is no excuse for getting on someone for the way it happens in THEIR country.

We should do well to remember that although we are all part of the "human family," we don't all speak the "same language" in all areas of the world. :)

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RE: A quandary - 1/10/2013 5:59:27 PM

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Actually the term, "in my country," is because we are aware that there are many members from different countries on this site. The term "in my country" is also because many times we can only speak about what is the general thing in our own country. It is not used to diminish others but to alert them to the fact that we aren't speaking for the world at large, only our little piece of it.

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