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When reporters ask what Republicans would cut, GOP aides refer to three documents: The 2012 House GOP budget, 2011 testimony by Democrat Erskine Bowles, and the Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act that would replace the automatic cuts to defense that are part of the "fiscal cliff" with cuts to food stamp and other mandatory programs.

I guess the thread's Subject question has been answered.

lol... really? Just that simple huh?
You have no more of a clue than anyone else does.
Not to mention the plan Boehner offered up claiming to be Bowles Bowles has distanced himself quickly from.

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2011 testimony by Democrat Erskine Bowles

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2011 testimony by Democrat Erskine Bowles

Which is NOT the proposal Boehner presented, Instead, it was his own modified from Bowels.

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Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act

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The 2012 House GOP budget

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Ryan’s idea is to eventually move Medicare toward private insurance companies by giving people a set amount to buy their own health insurance plans. The new system would be for people who are under age 55 now, and it would give them voucher-like credits to buy traditional fee-for-service Medicare or competing private insurance plans. (The credits are sometimes called "premium support.")

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From Bowles....
Erskine Bowles
While I'm flattered the Speaker would call something "the Bowles plan," the approach outlined in the letter Speaker Boehner sent to the President does not represent the Simpson-Bowles plan, nor is it the Bowles plan. In my testimony before the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, I simply took the mid-point of the public offers put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where I thought a deal could be reached at that time.
The Joint Select Committee failed to reach a deal, and circumstances have changed since then. It is up to negotiators to figure out where the middle ground is today. Every offer put forward brings us closer to a deal, but to reach an agreement, it will be necessary for both sides to move beyond their opening positions and reach agreement on a comprehensive plan which avoids the fiscal cliff and puts the debt on a clear downward path relative to the economy.
http://www.momentoftruthproject.org/publications/bowles-statement-speaker-boehners-letter-president
Honestly, the man who gave the testimony himself states it isnt his plan that was offered and states "circumstances have changed".
How much clearer do you need it to be?

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Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act

NOTE: In May, the House passed the Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act (H.R. 5652) to replace the scheduled sequestration cuts aimed at the Department of Defense and non-defense spending with responsible spending cuts and reforms. The bill will produce savings of $243 billion over 10 years
http://politicalnews.me/?id=16452
Already a law, already not enough.

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The 2012 House GOP budget

Ryan's plan.
http://budget.house.gov/fy2012budget/

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Ryan’s idea is to eventually move Medicare toward private insurance companies by giving people a set amount to buy their own health insurance plans. The new system would be for people who are under age 55 now, and it would give them voucher-like credits to buy traditional fee-for-service Medicare or competing private insurance plans. (The credits are sometimes called "premium support.")

Thats not a plan... thats insane.
Now, where are the actual cuts?

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And, they are there, regardless of whether they can be attributed to Erskine Bowles or not.

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And, they are there, regardless of whether they can be attributed to Erskine Bowles or not.

LMAO! And yet thats where your man Boehner said to look.. and Bowles said dont.

LMAO! So who am I supposed to believe?

LMAO! Sorry, this is lame, even for you.

(seeing a trend yet?)

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And, they are there, regardless of whether they can be attributed to Erskine Bowles or not.

LMAO! And yet thats where your man Boehner said to look.. and Bowles said dont.
LMAO! So who am I supposed to believe?
LMAO! Sorry, this is lame, even for you.
(seeing a trend yet?)

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Sure am, tazzy. I'm thinking you've gotten into the ether tank...

What difference does it make if it's incorrectly assigned to Bowles? If I were to write out a grocery list and say it was yours, I would be wrong in assigning it to you (unless I was prescient while writing it), but it would still be there. If the R's are saying that Bowles' statements to Congress are the basis, regardless of what they are calling it, isn't it still there?

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Sure am, tazzy. I'm thinking you've gotten into the ether tank...
What difference does it make if it's incorrectly assigned to Bowles? If I were to write out a grocery list and say it was yours, I would be wrong in assigning it to you (unless I was prescient while writing it), but it would still be there. If the R's are saying that Bowles' statements to Congress are the basis, regardless of what they are calling it, isn't it still there?

Allow me to try again.
Boehner said look to Bowles testimony.
Testimony Bowles gave.
The proposal Boehner gave was based upon that testimony.
The proposal, according to Bowles, is not what Bowles supported then.
In other words, the testimony is NOT what Boehner gave as a proposal.
But that is one of the things Boehner said to use as a source for the answers... the testimony.
Getting it yet?

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From Bowles....
Erskine Bowles
While I'm flattered the Speaker would call something "the Bowles plan," the approach outlined in the letter Speaker Boehner sent to the President does not represent the Simpson-Bowles plan, nor is it the Bowles plan. In my testimony before the Joint Select Committee on Deficit Reduction, I simply took the mid-point of the public offers put forward during the negotiations to demonstrate where I thought a deal could be reached at that time.

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Apparently, a letter was sent by Boehner to Obama that outlined an approach (which, I'm assuming had spending cuts in it) that was called "the Bowles plan." Regardless of what it was called, isn't it still outlined in the letter? Had Boehner called it "The Photo Montage of tazzygirl's Beautiful Ass Pics Plan," it would not be titled according to the information contained within, but it would still be there.

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Apparently, a letter was sent by Boehner to Obama that outlined an approach (which, I'm assuming had spending cuts in it) that was called "the Bowles plan." Regardless of what it was called, isn't it still outlined in the letter? Had Boehner called it "The Photo Montage of tazzygirl's Beautiful Ass Pics Plan," it would not be titled according to the information contained within, but it would still be there.

And that plan isnt where Boehner said to look.
So, no, we dont have the answers.

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And that isnt where they are telling people to look, now is it.

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When reporters ask what Republicans would cut, GOP aides refer to three documents: The 2012 House GOP budget, 2011 testimony by Democrat Erskine Bowles, and the Sequester Replacement Reconciliation Act that would replace the automatic cuts to defense that are part of the "fiscal cliff" with cuts to food stamp and other mandatory programs.

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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It isnt either plan. Yet that is where Boehner and his aides are telling people to look for the answers about where the GOP cuts are.

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LMAO! yeah, you arent seeing it either