Collarchat.com

Join Our Community
Collarchat.com

Home  Login  Search 

RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'"


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 2:16:38 PM   
TinkerHell


Posts: 36
Joined: 3/12/2007
Status: offline
If there is an Army of Dradle Grenade tossing Grinches it is my sincere desire that they launch an assault on the sound systems in Malls to put an end to the incessant round of cheerful, chirpy Xmas music that seems to begin earlier and earlier each year. This year the garden section of Home Depot was filled with tacky inflatable Santas and flocked artificial LED trees the second week in November.

I was ready to safe word the 5th time I heard Joy to the World being played at a decibel level that rivaled the level in the pit of a Rammstein concert while waiting for a movie to start at Mall of Georgia a few weeks ago... and I will claim that I was driven insane by the repetitive playing of Frosty the Snowman when I go on a tinsel tossing rampage the next time I go to Kroger to pick up pop tarts and wind up with a Jingle Bell Ear worm.

I will admit that I gnash my teeth everytime a fellow Atheist takes on the Blonde Baby Jesus in the Manger with Santa kneeling at the foot of the gold cradle display that while inevitably tacky is really meaningless as a religious symbol and more a reminder that: THERE ARE ONLY 50 SHOPPING DAYS UNTIL CHRISTMAS or Time to leave your family at Thanksgiving to stand in line at Walmart to buy a crappy TV or to head to your nearly deserted small town center for Small Business Saturday or Get online Cyber Monday to order a coffee maker from Amazon... but none of those things mean that there is a conspiracy against Christmas unless Xmas is nothing more than saying "Merry Christmas" and putting up tacky displays on the town square. A sad statement if you think about what the holiday is supposed to commerate.

When I see Xtians fighting to take back the anniversary of the birth of their lord by speaking out and organizing winter coat drives for the homeless, feeding the poor, and gathering en force to spend time at a Children's Shelter to read to children who won't be spending Xmas morning opening up box after box of useless crap rather than complaining that someone says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" then I'll be more open to the idea that there is an assault on their religion and their holiday. Until then... Happy Fucking Holidays, Enjoy your Festivus and Merry Christmas to one and all.

Ranty I know but I really want the conspiracy nuts to focus on something meaningful... like the return of blue eyeshadow rather than stupid crap that just helps to fuel the cult of throbbing amygdala victimhood that the right wing has become.


Edited: Oh and the Grinch didn't hate Xmas he had the mistaken idea that all Xmas meant to the Who's was getting stuff until the end when he realized that even without the "things" the Who's in Whoville still welcomed Christmas. Am I surprised that the idiot who wrote the Jew Grinches rant the OP posted missed the point of the story? No, no I'm not.


< Message edited by TinkerHell -- 12/19/2012 2:35:33 PM >


_____________________________


"My land is bare of chattering folk; the clouds
are low along the ridges, and sweet's the air
with curling smoke from all my burning bridges." ~ Dorothy Parker

(in reply to tingdatt)
Profile   Post #: 41
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 2:20:03 PM   
Moonhead


Posts: 16520
Joined: 9/21/2009
Status: offline
I honestly think Smith's doing a better job than Tennant, to be honest. Tennant's a fine actor, and was brilliant when he had the material to work with, but a lot of the time he was just stuck camping like a kid's telly presenter with ADHD and a stomach full of e numbers. I like Smith's more measured approach, and the whole "old fart in an inappropriately young body" works a lot better for him than it ever did for Peter Davison...

_____________________________

I like to think he was eaten by rats, in the dark, during a fog. It's what he would have wanted...
(Simon R Green on the late James Herbert)

(in reply to cordeliasub)
Profile   Post #: 42
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 2:22:12 PM   
Moonhead


Posts: 16520
Joined: 9/21/2009
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

But the looney left have banned Christmas over here! The Mail said so, didn't they?

the dumbarse "oppressed" cwistians wouldnt know the twuth if it gave em a blow job

Could that be why a couple of posters are upset?

_____________________________

I like to think he was eaten by rats, in the dark, during a fog. It's what he would have wanted...
(Simon R Green on the late James Herbert)

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 43
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 2:24:20 PM   
epiphiny43


Posts: 688
Joined: 10/20/2006
Status: offline
What a crock. Nobody is attacking Christmas. Official acts and public moneys spent on any particular religious celebration are the offenses people find worth objecting to. Have your creche, at Your church or home. Not on OUR city hall or courthouse. Same with every other people worshiping their own imaginary friend in the sky or angry desert god. Your money, your land, your celebration. Even have a parade, with the proper permits. Just don't expect everyone else to pay for it or make room in public funded spaces for it.
And quit bitching because any one religion isn't allowed to indoctrinate everyone elses kids at school. There are Sunday schools everywhere for indoctrinating the young before they develop the critical thinking to question your superstitions. True prayer will disappear from schools the day they banish tests. The public posturing as groups is banal and indefensible. Even Christ admonishes his followers to pray in private, He being rather allergic to the phoney religiosity of posers and the mildly insane.

Given the history over the last 2 millennium of Christian persecution and killings of Jews and their wars on Islam(with nicely reciprocal efforts there). the claim only Christians are being persecuted is deeply offensive as well as remarkably disingenuous, or astoundingly ignorant. What is objected to presently is irredeemably insecure evangelical Christians attempting to enshrine their latest popular misinterpretations of Scripture in public policy and the legal code. How that differs from attempts to make Sharia public law baffles most thinking citizens. Actual Christians continue to witness their faith in their acts of charity, kindness and love for their fellow humans and the rest of God's creations, not in trying to control everyone else.

(in reply to DomYngBlk)
Profile   Post #: 44
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 2:56:10 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: TinkerHell

If there is an Army of Dradle Grenade tossing Grinches it is my sincere desire that they launch an assault on the sound systems in Malls to put an end to the incessant round of cheerful, chirpy Xmas music that seems to begin earlier and earlier each year. This year the garden section of Home Depot was filled with tacky inflatable Santas and flocked artificial LED trees the second week in November.

I was ready to safe word the 5th time I heard Joy to the World being played at a decibel level that rivaled the level in the pit of a Rammstein concert while waiting for a movie to start at Mall of Georgia a few weeks ago... and I will claim that I was driven insane by the repetitive playing of Frosty the Snowman when I go on a tinsel tossing rampage the next time I go to Kroger to pick up pop tarts and wind up with a Jingle Bell Ear worm.

I will admit that I gnash my teeth everytime a fellow Atheist takes on the Blonde Baby Jesus in the Manger with Santa kneeling at the foot of the gold cradle display that while inevitably tacky is really meaningless as a religious symbol and more a reminder that: THERE ARE ONLY 50 SHOPPING DAYS UNTIL CHRISTMAS or Time to leave your family at Thanksgiving to stand in line at Walmart to buy a crappy TV or to head to your nearly deserted small town center for Small Business Saturday or Get online Cyber Monday to order a coffee maker from Amazon... but none of those things mean that there is a conspiracy against Christmas unless Xmas is nothing more than saying "Merry Christmas" and putting up tacky displays on the town square. A sad statement if you think about what the holiday is supposed to commerate.

When I see Xtians fighting to take back the anniversary of the birth of their lord by speaking out and organizing winter coat drives for the homeless, feeding the poor, and gathering en force to spend time at a Children's Shelter to read to children who won't be spending Xmas morning opening up box after box of useless crap rather than complaining that someone says "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" then I'll be more open to the idea that there is an assault on their religion and their holiday. Until then... Happy Fucking Holidays, Enjoy your Festivus and Merry Christmas to one and all.

Ranty I know but I really want the conspiracy nuts to focus on something meaningful... like the return of blue eyeshadow rather than stupid crap that just helps to fuel the cult of throbbing amygdala victimhood that the right wing has become.


Edited: Oh and the Grinch didn't hate Xmas he had the mistaken idea that all Xmas meant to the Who's was getting stuff until the end when he realized that even without the "things" the Who's in Whoville still welcomed Christmas. Am I surprised that the idiot who wrote the Jew Grinches rant the OP posted missed the point of the story? No, no I'm not.


I like this...a lot!


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to TinkerHell)
Profile   Post #: 45
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:02:40 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline


_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 46
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:07:12 PM   
Lucylastic


Posts: 40310
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

But the looney left have banned Christmas over here! The Mail said so, didn't they?

the dumbarse "oppressed" cwistians wouldnt know the twuth if it gave em a blow job

Could that be why a couple of posters are upset?

oh more than likely!




Attachment (1)

_____________________________

(•_•)
<) )╯SUCH
/ \

\(•_•)
( (> A NASTY
/ \

(•_•)
<) )> WOMAN
/ \

Duchess Of Dissent
Dont Hate Love

(in reply to Moonhead)
Profile   Post #: 47
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:14:38 PM   
tazzygirl


Posts: 37833
Joined: 10/12/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tingdatt


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Sadly, this looks suspiciously like a right leaning tantrum. It's news to me that the separation of church and state isn't in the constitution, put it that way.

You mean this separation of church and state?





Clear something up for me.

You are upset because the Menorah is outside while the Nativity is inside?

_____________________________

Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

(in reply to tingdatt)
Profile   Post #: 48
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:36:10 PM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline
The guy is definitely a hater and bitter......about what.... it`s hard to say.

Wow.......this is the very same logic that thinks that "Jews control the banks","Jews control Hollywood","Jews are cheap" or "Jews are good at business"....etc......scary and creepy.

He sounds mittish,in that he`s trying to hard to tell his target audience what he thinks they(fundies) want to hear.

And like Mitt,trying to pander to rich white republicans with myths and insults about poor folks(the 47%),Burt is trying to appeal the least Christian of the Christian community.......cons with false statements and religious bigotry. 

_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Moonhead)
Profile   Post #: 49
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:40:49 PM   
Owner59


Posts: 17033
Joined: 3/14/2006
From: Dirty Jersey
Status: offline




Couldn`t resist....

< Message edited by Owner59 -- 12/19/2012 3:41:22 PM >


_____________________________

"As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals"

President Obama

(in reply to Owner59)
Profile   Post #: 50
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 3:45:19 PM   
JeffBC


Posts: 5799
Joined: 2/12/2012
From: Canada
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead
quote:

ORIGINAL: tingdatt
this is why christians always feel under attack. because they're the only group it's okay to openly insult or shut down.

Tell that to the Muslims.

I was just thinking that. Man, tingdatt is kind of operating on some other plain of existence. Out of all possible groups that I'd like to be in American culture white & Christian is high on the list. The other two contenders are "rich" and "male" but the male part is becoming pretty problematic.


_____________________________

I'm a lover of "what is", not because I'm a spiritual person, but because it hurts when I argue with reality. -- Bryon Katie
"You're humbly arrogant" -- sunshinemiss
officially a member of the K Crowd

(in reply to Moonhead)
Profile   Post #: 51
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:04:48 PM   
thishereboi


Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: tingdatt


quote:

ORIGINAL: Moonhead


quote:

ORIGINAL: tingdatt
...people only seem to make a big deal about separation of church and state for silly things(holiday displays) when it pertains to Christians.

Got any evidence for that?

look at the previous picture. nativity scenes are regularly banned from public spaces because of their religious nature, but a menorah on the white house lawn is okay?


Why wouldn't it be ok? They have a christmas tree. What's the difference? Maybe when they forbid the tree but keep the menorah you will have a point but until then you are just blowing hot air.

_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert


This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi


(in reply to tingdatt)
Profile   Post #: 52
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:15:39 PM   
DarkSteven


Posts: 28072
Joined: 5/2/2008
Status: offline
I just read that idiot's (Prelutsky's) article. Some salient points:

How is it, one well might ask, that in a Christian nation this is happening?

Gee, separation of church and state says this ain't a Christian nation. Maybe the Founding Fathers didn't consider us to be a Christian nation, despite them being Christians themselves.

But when the overwhelming majority of a country’s population believe Jesus to be their savior, only a darn fool would deny the obvious.

Translation - majority rules, and the hell with minority opinions. We ain't no melting pot. (An odd opinion from a Jew.)

Assimilation wasn’t a threat to anyone; it was what the Statue of Liberty represented.

Nope, freedom and openness to others was what she represented.

What makes them even more obnoxious is that, by and large, the Jews who are leading the crusade against what is, we should never forget, a national holiday, are secular.

This sentence shows that WND doesn't require writing ability from people who support their theology. Content over form. The author here says it's the Jews' fault and then says they really aren't Jews. They're secular Jews. which is some kind of liberal. Right about here, I'd like to see some backup for his statements - does he have any data to back him up?

They’re the pinheads who pretend that “separation of church and state” appears in the Constitution.

No pretense at all. Per Wikipedia, "The First Amendment to the United States Constitution provides that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

Anti-Semitism is no longer a problem in society; it’s been replaced by a rampant anti-Christianity.

Well, damn. I missed the lynchings, and the burnings of Stars of David in Christians' lawns.

For example, much of the hatred spewed towards George W. Bush had far less to do with his policies than it did with his religion.

No, it really DID have to do with him instituting torture, getting us into two hopeless wars, destroying the US economy, and shredding the Bill of Rights. Please note how he was criticized for this, and the hundreds of millions of other Christians living in the US were not. Even though they're Christians too.

As you may have noticed, they haven’t called Barack Obama any bad names even though he’s kept Gitmo open, extended the Patriot Act and even used drones to kill American citizens.

That's okay. The names that the good Christians have called Obama made up for it.

Seriously, he does have a point here, even if it has nothing to do with his main premise of Christian-hating. Good policy is good whether it comes from a friend or foe. Bad policy too.

These Jewish bigots voiced no concern when Bill Clinton or John Kerry made a big production out of showing up at black Baptist churches or posing with Rev. Jesse Jackson because, again, they understand that’s just politics. They only object to politicians attending church for religious reasons.

First off, don't call me a bigot, you SOB. Second, who objects to a politician attending church, or anyone for that matter? You're entitled to your opinions, but not to your own facts.

My fellow Jews, who often have the survival of Israel heading the list of their concerns when it comes to electing a president, only gave 26 percent of their vote to Bush and roughly 30 percent to Mitt Romney, even though they were clearly far friendlier toward Israel than John Kerry or Barack Obama.

WTF does supporting one Christian over another have to do with the alleged anti-Christian bias of Jews? Since by my definition, Romney is not a Christian, wouldn't this show a pro-Christian bias among Jews?

What’s more, unlike Clinton, who had Yasser Arafat sleeping in the Lincoln Bedroom so often even Monica Lewinsky got jealous, Bush saw to it that the Palestinian butcher was persona non grata at the White House. But if you mention George Bush to most secular Jews, their reaction is to spit first and ask questions later.

Logic is lost. Here the author claims that supporting Israel is somehow being a Christian, and supporting it more is more Christian. Therefore, because Bush was more Christian than Clinton because he supported Israel more, supporting Bush less than Clinton must mean that Jews hate Christians. The author needs to accept that Bush was hated by all liberals for good reason, his Christianity didn't matter, and Jews are permitted to dislike people whose policies they dislike, Christian or no.

I'm quitting here. This clown cannot reason, has nothing to support his statements, and is a whacko.




_____________________________

"You women....

The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

(in reply to JeffBC)
Profile   Post #: 53
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:17:24 PM   
thishereboi


Posts: 14463
Joined: 6/19/2008
Status: offline
"This clown cannot reason, has nothing to support his statements, and is a whacko. "


Yea, that pretty much sums it up. Nicely done Steven.


_____________________________

"Sweetie, you're wasting your gum" .. Albert


This here is the boi formerly known as orfunboi


(in reply to DarkSteven)
Profile   Post #: 54
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:26:43 PM   
kalikshama


Posts: 14805
Joined: 8/8/2010
Status: offline
quote:

Ben Stein


Check out the Snopes article to see how much of that he actually said: http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/confessions.asp

_____________________________

Curious about the "Sluts Vote" avatars? See http://www.collarchat.com/m_4133036/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4133036

(in reply to jlf1961)
Profile   Post #: 55
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:36:53 PM   
Politesub53


Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: tingdatt

then admit it. christians are the only religious group it's "politically correct" to attack. same with white males. the liberal mindset demonizes the successful and permanently views them as oppressors, regardless of the reality. no different than the communists.

this is why christians always feel under attack. because they're the only group it's okay to openly insult or shut down.


Yawnssssssss......Same shit different day.

(in reply to tingdatt)
Profile   Post #: 56
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:38:10 PM   
kalikshama


Posts: 14805
Joined: 8/8/2010
Status: offline
Special Edition - A Look Back at the War on Christmas

The Daily Show's Special Edition takes a look back at the only war involving cookies and mistletoe.

_____________________________

Curious about the "Sluts Vote" avatars? See http://www.collarchat.com/m_4133036/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#4133036

(in reply to kalikshama)
Profile   Post #: 57
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:40:58 PM   
cordeliasub


Posts: 528
Joined: 11/4/2012
Status: offline
Is it unChristian of me to say that stupid Christians annoy me?

(in reply to kalikshama)
Profile   Post #: 58
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:42:20 PM   
Politesub53


Posts: 14862
Joined: 5/7/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

the dumbarse "oppressed" cwistians wouldnt know the twuth if it gave em a blow job



As a mail reader, can we test your theory Missy.

(in reply to Lucylastic)
Profile   Post #: 59
RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christma... - 12/19/2012 4:49:18 PM   
DarkSteven


Posts: 28072
Joined: 5/2/2008
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: cordeliasub

Is it unChristian of me to say that stupid Christians annoy me?


Well, I spent a bit of cyberink saying that one specific stupid Jew annoyed me...

_____________________________

"You women....

The small-breasted ones want larger breasts. The large-breasted ones want smaller ones. The straight-haired ones curl their hair, and the curly-haired ones straighten theirs...

Quit fretting. We men love you."

(in reply to cordeliasub)
Profile   Post #: 60
Page:   <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> Dungeon of Political and Religious Discussion >> RE: "It's the Jews are behind the 'War on Christmas'" Page: <<   < prev  1 2 [3] 4   next >   >>
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2024
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078