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MistressOfGa -> Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:17:40 PM)
I have read the entire thread on "Saying No" and several thoughts were brought up that I would like to explore further. I didn't want to hi-jack Bearlee's thread, so I am starting another here. It was mentioned that there are several different levels of submissives. I will use Jessica as an example because I am sure she wont mind. Yes, she is fiesty and she is a "tell it like it is to her" type of submissive. Some have pointed out that they couldnt be like that. Well, obviously there are many Dominants who enjoy submissives who "dont take crap" from anyone. I have met a few Doms who would consider this type of submissive a challange, akin to a "wild stallion", to be broken and rode <s> I, myself, like Jessica's spirit and her determination to be true to who she is. Her old name fit her perfectly and getting to know her on these boards, I can say that the "True" in it may have very well meant "True to herself". I have met submissives like Jess. One of them being my best friend "Doll" and her twin sister. Both are fiesty as hell and both tell it like it is "to them". I dont consider them any less submissive or more submissive because of their attitudes. I often wonder if Doll could be a Domina in hiding lol but that is neither here nor there. Dominants/Switches: Which type of submissive do you find more appealing and why? Submissives/Slaves/Switches: Would you ever feel comfortable being this type of submissive? Why? Hopefully this post wont turn into a flame-for-all like so many others lately :) Edited to switch the Switches lol

Reflectivesoul -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:21:15 PM)
quote: Dominants: Which type of submissive do you find more appealing and why? Submissives/Slaves/Switches: Would you ever feel comfortable being this type of submissive? Why? Well being a Switch I would hope that we also get a choice in what kind of subs we prefer as well? scratches head

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:21:52 PM)
I have always said I like "aggressive submission". This shows itself in a drive to please that can not be quelled. I am not at all interested in brats or SAMs, though I want more than just a whipping post. I need one who wants to submit as much as I want to control. Taggard

MistressOfGa -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:23:19 PM)
Absolutely correct RS <s>

Avrilkiller -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:24:56 PM)
Agreed.

juliaoceania -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:26:26 PM)
The title of the thread made me think of submissives stacked one on top of another, maybe in pyramid fashion...lol As far as submissives go, the fiery ones could just be the most submissive in private, only their dominants know for sure...smiles

MistressOfGa -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:30:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: juliaoceania The title of the thread made me think of submissives stacked one on top of another, maybe in pyramid fashion...lol As far as submissives go, the fiery ones could just be the most submissive in private, only their dominants know for sure...smiles Julia, you really have a point here. I know that as loud and boisterous as my two submissive friends get, they are equally meak and mild in the presence of their Doms. I know a submissive who is extremely dominant in his job, but comes home and wants nothing to do with that side of his personality.

Reflectivesoul -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:32:15 PM)
my choice of a submissive would be..... AN HONEST ONE... [:D]

MistressOfGa -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:34:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty I have always said I like "aggressive submission". This shows itself in a drive to please that can not be quelled. I am not at all interested in brats or SAMs, though I want more than just a whipping post. I need one who wants to submit as much as I want to control. Taggard Taggard, Thanks for the response. I am curious as to what your definition of "Aggressive Submission" is. Could you elaborate please?

Brosco -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:34:36 PM)
I prefer fiesty/bratty what ever it should be called. I enjoy the mindgame associated with regaining the control. I would never want to 'break' that fiestiness because it would take away the fun and challenge in the relationship and I would probably get bored. Brosco

MistressOfGa -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:35:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Reflectivesoul my choice of a submissive would be..... AN HONEST ONE... [:D] Good choice RS!! :)

Sinergy -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:36:41 PM)
Hello A/all, I had a dog once. {And no, this is not a bestiality post, this is an example] Every time we would go to Dog Beach the dog would run around and try to get every other dog to do things. He would molest puppies. Stick his nose in other dog's behinds. Chase. Goof off. Meet people. Let other people throw things in the water for him to fetch. Etc. And then I would whistle, and he would run back over to me and when I signalled sit he would sit. He would roll over if I told him to. He would fetch things like the ball, the cat I pointed at, floating trees, oil derricks off the coast, whatever. While he was true in all respects to what a "dog" is, he was completely submissive to me when I would indicate what he should do. The submissive that I want is one who is comfortable in who she is. I want to learn who she is on a very intimate level. I dont go into the relationship thinking she is a Tabula Rasa that I can remake into a McDonaldland Happy Meal Toy. I dont really go in for the cookie-cutter cut-out submissives. I have no fixed idea of what she should be. There is something she needs to be, and perhaps I can be the catalyst that makes that happen. And in doing so, I find myself. I have posted this before, but Kevin Costner's horse in "Dances With Wolves" symbolizes it. Anybody else try to do something with the horse, they end up damaged. He whistles for his horse, the horse comes to him. When he needs to be woken up because of danger, the horse does that. It is similar to playing a musical instrument. It is similar to sparring blindfolded. It is similar to learning how to drive a high performance sports car. There is an energy, a muse, a wavelength that I aspire to connect to with this person, and in the sense that two wavelengths on the same frequency make something which is far more powerful than if you added them together as individual quantities. I am a part of a whole, and together we are much more than we would ever be alone. If I do not listen for and chase that muse, I dont personally think I will ever find it. But as usual, that is just me, and I could be wrong. Sinergy

mistoferin -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:43:59 PM)
Well. I AM that kind of submissive. I am what I am and I don't see me changing anytime soon. I know that you CAN teach an old dog new tricks...but mindless submission isn't one I'm interested in learning.

marieToo -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:46:44 PM)
Fast reply: Jessica is clearly a very strong woman. That became apparent to me tonight. Im not a switch, or a Dominant, but if I were, I would find Jessica's "type" of submission somewhat challenging, and in many ways more meaningful than someone who comes off as outwardly compliant and common. I have found in my own experience that alot of dominants (not all) prefer a woman with alittle bit of bite. Then others may like a more demure type of personality. I think theres a lid for every pot and theres no right or wrong when it comes to relationships. Its just a matter of finding the correct partner that we have chemistry with.

juliaoceania -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:49:05 PM)
I absolutely agree MarieToo

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 8:58:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa I am curious as to what your definition of "Aggressive Submission" is. Could you elaborate please? I think people think of dominance as a very aggressive thing. The big guy in leather grabbing some gal's hair and throwing her down to have his way with her. I think that has its place, but what gets my rubber band all twisted up is a slave that puts herself down on her knees in front of me, without a word from me. She places herself, quite litterally, at my feet, and I am free to use her, or not, as my fancy strikes. I am a rather passive dominant, myself. I like to set up the structure and the rules and then have my slaves do what I expect of them. I do not like to yell or punish, and a slave that acts up will most likely get shown the door. Yet I will not abide a slave that just lays there like a rag doll. They must be active in their own subjugation. They must be a willing and eager participant in their own corruption. Taggard

gardenbluebird -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 9:00:45 PM)
i'm one of those feisty submissives. i told Master when we first met that i would challenge him, and i have been true to my word. He, in turn, enjoys channeling my energy in the direction that He wants to go in. Despite my challenging nature there has never been any doubt in my mind exactly who is in control.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 9:03:39 PM)
I do not think there are "levels" of submission, but I do think there are certain types of orientations of submissive as well as of course, many different personalities. So it comes down to what personality meshes best with yours, and what the focus of your relationship will be. I want to be with someone who will actively take hold of life, be responsible, and not let a particular orientation of themselves box them into who they believe they should be or how they should act.

TolerableCruelty -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 9:17:01 PM)
I'm going to agree with Taggard and I guess I would classify Myself as being a Passive Dominant, also. I set the rules at the beginning, and expect them to be followed... end of story. I like a girl to be spirited, a girl with spirit is actually something most Goreans I know find very appealing when looking for a girl to collar. However, being spirited does not mean they have to be bratty, a SAM, or just disrespectful to the general public ( i.e. "i'm a sub, but not your sub... so fuck you if you don't like how i act") My girl tells exactly what is on her mind, but she does so in the politest way she knows how. I gave her 1 rule when she came here to live... Do not disrespect Me. She follows that rule everyday, in every way, to the best of her ability.... even when her spirit "flares" up a bit. T.R.

Vancouver_cinful -> RE: Levels Of Submissives (6/17/2006 9:17:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MistressOfGa Submissives/Slaves/Switches: Would you ever feel comfortable being this type of submissive? Why? As I say in my profile, I consider my brain one of my biggest assets. What would be the point of me becoming a mindless drone?? If you want a goldfish for a pet, don't buy a cat. Simple enough. (And, just to be clear, I'm not calling anyone a goldfish or a cat...it's a simple analogy.) That's not to say that it's impossible for me to obey without question...just that it's unlikely I'll ever find satisfaction in living a life of mindless obedience. I just don't understand this need to compartmentalize or compare...I'm just me. And I'm submissive. Nothing more, nothing less.

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