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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 11:59:32 AM   
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All generalizations are stupid.



And so are certain people on this thread, but far be it for me to name names.


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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:00:20 PM   
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No, I don't tend to see men that way, OP.

I tend to see them as individuals, as cliche as that tends to sound. When meet one I look at his body language, his grooming, his dress, listen to his tone of voice and choices of words and make an assessment from there.

When I think right now in the abstract of "male", the thing that comes to mind is "penis".

When I think about "men", the thing that comes to mind is.... a blank. I've got nothing.

Now, I know what sorts of men and males I like and don't like. But no, I don't have a set male-image structure in my head of personality traits.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:02:30 PM   
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Men are as simple as dogs.
Take care of them, and they will follow you around everywhere, get your slippers, lick your feet, and guard you from all evil with their very life!

Women, on the other hand, are deliciously complicated.
The best part about women is that women don't even know what they are - that's how complex it is.



*eyeroll*

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:07:56 PM   
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none of my dogs have ever been unfaithful. i'd think alot of a guy that could be as loyal to me as my dogs are.

my ex told me he'd learned that i'm a bitch. this was after we'd spilt up, and he was on the recieving end of what i'd spent 16 years doing for him. as i said to him at the time 'well done. i'm glad you have learned something about me. you are quite right; i am a bitch. i'm just not your bitch anymore.'

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:08:52 PM   
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Some men are dogs... not I though. not I

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:11:28 PM   
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none of my dogs have ever been unfaithful. i'd think alot of a guy that could be as loyal to me as my dogs are.


To be fair, though, you've probably never demanded that your dogs only ever hump you and no other.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:15:21 PM   
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Women, on the other hand, are deliciously complicated.


So is a plate of spaghetti bolognese. But a plate of spag bol won't complain about your belching after eating it, nor will it ask 'what are you thinking?'

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:22:26 PM   
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none of my dogs have ever been unfaithful. i'd think alot of a guy that could be as loyal to me as my dogs are.


To be fair, though, you've probably never demanded that your dogs only ever hump you and no other.


that is true. i've come to accept that whatever it takes for a man to want only one woman i lack it. i have no idea what it is, but it would seem that i don't have it.

however, much as i prefer male dogs, and male horses, i also prefer the company of men. i don't think cutting their nuts off to stop them straying is going to be productive though

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:42:46 PM   
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I read on another forum, recently, that women view men pretty much like people view dogs. That is, that men are big, smelly, rough and simple.

Is this correct? Seriously, I sometimes look at women and think, 'How do you see us? If we men see you women as kind of squealy, twittery and prim, do you see we men as like large, coarse and a bit less than human?'

OK, the bottom line is: I *know* how I see females. But, really, I haven't a frigging clue how females see me, or see men in general.





I see men as the opposite of me. Masculine versus feminine. Big and rough is okay with me. Smelly...eh...depends on the smell. Simple? No. And I think those women who might think men, as a rule, are simple are just taking a simplistic (and self-centered) view themselves.

For example, my mother (andyesIloveherbut...) was telling a few of us over Christmas that she had colored her hair and cut her bangs and her boyfriend didn't even notice. Then she proceeded to call men "dense." Several other women at the table agreed. But, men are simply not going to notice every time we pluck a hair. It certainly is not indicative of their power to think and reason. It's just not on their radar. And those women at the table were judging these men because they weren't acting in the manner that they would have with each other. (Although, to be honest, I didn't notice my mother's hair, either, so...I'm with her dense boyfriend.)

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But a plate of spag bol won't complain about your belching after eating it, nor will it ask 'what are you thinking?'



Insert my own eye roll here. I do not ask that question of the man in my life. He will tell me if he wants me to know.

Questions I don't ask men:

How do I look?
What are you thinking?
Do you love me?

Ick. Gag.



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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:50:07 PM   
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oh and btw Peon, loyalty is far more than just about who you stick your dick in.

Kaliko....i work with a straight married guy who is the only person to notice if i've done anything different with my hair. the women around me very rarely notice.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 12:51:47 PM   
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Women, on the other hand, are deliciously complicated.


So is a plate of spaghetti bolognese. But a plate of spag bol won't complain about your belching after eating it, nor will it ask 'what are you thinking?'



I've completely lost track of your question(s) and any point(s) of this topic. Could you please clarify?

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 1:01:06 PM   
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Kaliko....i work with a straight married guy who is the only person to notice if i've done anything different with my hair. the women around me very rarely notice.

needles



Yes, I'm kind of the same way. I rarely notice.

And perhaps my post was too broad a stroke. If a man notices something like that, great. But if he doesn't, that doesn't mean he's dense. It just means he's not reacting in the way the woman who is complaining wants him to react. In my (limited) experience, I've seen women - plenty of times - resort to generalities about men when this happens. Unfair, negative generalities.


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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 1:32:33 PM   
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Women, on the other hand, are deliciously complicated.


So is a plate of spaghetti bolognese. But a plate of spag bol won't complain about your belching after eating it, nor will it ask 'what are you thinking?'



I've completely lost track of your question(s) and any point(s) of this topic. Could you please clarify?


No, not really.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 1:41:29 PM   
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That is, that men are big, smelly, rough and simple.


Damn, that's actually a pretty good description of me.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 4:50:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

I read on another forum, recently, that women view men pretty much like people view dogs. That is, that men are big, smelly, rough and simple.

Is this correct? Seriously, I sometimes look at women and think, 'How do you see us? If we men see you women as kind of squealy, twittery and prim, do you see we men as like large, coarse and a bit less than human?'

OK, the bottom line is: I *know* how I see females. But, really, I haven't a frigging clue how females see me, or see men in general.




I don't see men like I see dogs. I judge all people the same-on a case per case basis.

But to be honest, on here it seems lots and lots of women do treat men as some kind of lower life form which is sad.


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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 4:55:06 PM   
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Men are as simple as dogs.
Take care of them, and they will follow you around everywhere, get your slippers, lick your feet, and guard you from all evil with their very life!

Women, on the other hand, are deliciously complicated.
The best part about women is that women don't even know what they are - that's how complex it is.


damn, I need to teach Master to fetch my slippers. <ducks before the slippers hit her in the head>

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 5:00:37 PM   
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oh and btw Peon, loyalty is far more than just about who you stick your dick in.

Kaliko....i work with a straight married guy who is the only person to notice if i've done anything different with my hair. the women around me very rarely notice.

needles


Master always notices when I do different things with my hair or body or if I haven't had my brows waxed for awhile or I haven't shaved for a day or anything else. He notices everything and he asks me more than I ask him "what are you thinking?". I kinda like that he notices things about me. It's refreshing to know he cares enough to notice even the small things.



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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 5:12:21 PM   
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Yup, it's my impression that the vast majority of women think that men are defective women.

Really? I've never met a single woman who expressed this opinion.

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Original: PeonForHer

OK, the bottom line is: I *know* how I see females. But, really, I haven't a frigging clue how females see me, or see men in general.

I have been around women in many different circumstances, from the USAF to an ashram, and have not noticed universal generalities regarding how women view men.

I'm in a bit of an afterglow at the moment and am thinking of one particular guy as big, strong, warm, and deliciously sadistic.


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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 5:16:00 PM   
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Original: JeffCB

Yup, it's my impression that the vast majority of women think that men are defective women.

Really? I've never met a single woman who expressed this opinion.




It's the feminists, k, the feminists.

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RE: Men are Dogs - 12/30/2012 5:16:38 PM   
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none of my dogs have ever been unfaithful. i'd think alot of a guy that could be as loyal to me as my dogs are.

my ex told me he'd learned that i'm a bitch. this was after we'd spilt up, and he was on the recieving end of what i'd spent 16 years doing for him. as i said to him at the time 'well done. i'm glad you have learned something about me. you are quite right; i am a bitch. i'm just not your bitch anymore.'

needles

As ths is the closest to my thoughts:
I agree some of dogs main benefits is they are faithful, loyal & honest....but the first time a human male tries to lift his leg on my expensive chaise to lick his undercarriage I may not open the window before throwing him through it!!

I admit to using animal behavior evaluations on human males reading body language in relation to spoken word & the like. Really don't see them as the same. Personally its kind of offensive to compair a species that lies, cheats, steals & kills its own with one that only produces negative emotions (barking, growling) when its territory, mate, pack or food source are threatened.

I don't take offense to being called a bitch because it means the person I'm dealing with is done with rational thought, my last comment was probably closer to bulls-eye than I planned & the BS arguement is over.
Did use the I'm a bitch but not your bitch on the ex's attorney...more than once

As for "man illness" the only one I run into with regularity is PMS: pissy man syndrome

So no, men aren't dogs. Dogs can easily be trained

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