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I never said all.

That was the assumption of someone else.

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I never said all.

That was the assumption of someone else.

just the ones legally purchased and owned eventually those owned by criminals will turn up
And the same admendments would still be violated

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I never said all.

That was the assumption of someone else.

just the ones legally purchased and owned eventually those owned by criminals will turn up
And the same admendments would still be violated

hahahaha

again, trouble reading? or remembering? which is it this time.

My position has been the same all along.

The bill.... you know.. what Jeff and I were discussing when I made my post... Fienstein's bill, for those not in the know.... mentions no where making all guns illegal.

Please, do go check. I will wait....

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4342108

Now, couple that with other ideas, methods from other countries....

Such as Australia...

Where the guns they banned, they bought back....

Is a light bulb going off yet?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I never said all.

That was the assumption of someone else.

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no trouble reading fienstien wants to regiester all granfathered guns and prohibit transfer with them going to the gov upon death the Austrailian buy back like the one in CA isn't a true byback it's sellback or else and you don't get what you paid for them

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remember that the fact they ownguns means they arn't as bright as you are tell them this every chance you get

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I understood every word you said and your statements ignore reality

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they still only affect legal owners with the hope that someday the badguys guns will be rounded up

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if I own a business and only refuse to hire one person it is still discrimination

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you don't want all guns confiscated behind the facade of a buyback only lessens the number of victims not the numbers of admendments ignored did a light come on for you???????

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The original post about Feinstien's bill came because Jeff's photos accused her of wanting to ban all handguns.. which clearly is not the case,
And I acknowleged that fact

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no trouble reading fienstien wants to regiester all granfathered guns and prohibit transfer with them going to the gov upon death the Austrailian buy back like the one in CA isn't a true byback it's sellback or else and you don't get what you paid for them

Better than the fine/jail term for being caught with them.
And of course that makes it ok thats the way the mafia takes over companies sell to us for a quarter what it is worth or we will send men with guns after you

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remember that the fact they ownguns means they arn't as bright as you are tell them this every chance you get

There goes your memory again... I have a gun... I just dont keep it here in PA.
In all your ramblings you never told me you havea gun although if it is in another state youcan't possibly guarantee that it is secured up to your standards practice what you preach

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I understood every word you said and your statements ignore reality

Obviously you did not.

Feinstien's bill listed guns to be banned. People want money. Buy backs seem to work to get guns off the streets at any other time.
I have no probelm with VOLUNTARY buybacks they usually get worthless guns and sometimes bad guys sell the guns to disconnect from them

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they still only affect legal owners with the hope that someday the badguys guns will be rounded up

Sighsssssssssssssssssssss

Which is why you ban and buy back... duh.
Which is why it is a bad idea, it only disarms the good guys

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if I own a business and only refuse to hire one person it is still discrimination

Has nothing to do with the conversation... hell.. Im not even sure that is a complete thought or what.
yes it does the point is that there is no such thing as only violating the constitution a little

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you don't want all guns confiscated behind the facade of a buyback only lessens the number of victims not the numbers of admendments ignored did a light come on for you???????

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCy8MpT45gk

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rule 8 if yougrab the legaj gun the illeal ones will magically disapear never leveang the honest people defenseless

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lol... that was my dad's attitude.

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Oh yes, if all guns are banned, its a massive problem. But that isnt what we were discussing.

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Across the country, communities have held gun buy back programs in the wake of the Connecticut tragedy. Los Angeles recently collected 2,037 guns, including a grenade launcher.
Buchanan and a group of volunteers are putting together Dallas' first since the tragedy, which is designed for gun owners who no longer want weapons but don't know what to do with them.
"We need to make communities and families safer and we try to do it one gun at a time," he said.
It's scheduled for 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. on Saturday, Jan. 19 outside The Stew Pot at 1822 Young Street. Organizers will pay $50 cash for working handguns and rifles and $200 for semi-automatic assault rifles.

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When Los Angeles police moved up their annual Citywide Gun Buyback program to this week, they collected an arsenal that included 75 assault weapons, 698 rifles, 363 shotguns, 901 handguns and — more surprisingly — two rocket launchers.

Police said the people who brought in the weapons told police that they came from family members who served in the military and no longer wanted rocket launchers in their homes, the Times reported.

As it turns out, these were not the first launchers to turn up at a gun buyback. Last May, when the event was timed for Mother's Day, one of these large firearms surfaced in Los Angeles.

Most people received grocery store gift cards for turning in weapons — up to $200 per firearm, depending on the type.

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That's not even a molecule of a drop in the bucket. I would be curious to know what so called assault weapons were turned in. Why would anyone turn in a firearm worth a thousand or more for two hundred at the grocery store ?

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I do foresee a problem. It's not exactly like gun owners are going to see themselves as common street punks. It's not like there won't be tens of millions of their brethren in the same boat. It's in effect creating tens of millions of a new criminal class with the stroke of a pen.

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Oh yes, if all guns are banned, its a massive problem. But that isnt what we were discussing.

Finestiens bill if enacted as it reads now pretty much bans an entire class of modern firearms and requires not only registration of those already in private hands but imposes a $200 tax via NFA classification(same as machine guns). We are talking about tens of millions of guns effecting tens of millions of their owners. All this because of maybe one tenth of a percentage point of the total number of these firearm types that are actually misused. Unfortunately the legislation isn't aimed at those who misuse these weapons but those who don't misuse them.


Don't you see a problem with trying to enforce that ?

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That's not even a molecule of a drop in the bucket. I would be curious to know what so called assault weapons were turned in. Why would anyone turn in a firearm worth a thousand or more for two hundred at the grocery store ?

Maybe they no longer worked.

Maybe they stole them.

Maybe they were cheap as I have seen some say they can get some of these guns for 50 bucks on the streets... 200 starts to look good in comparison.

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I do foresee a problem. It's not exactly like gun owners are going to see themselves as common street punks. It's not like there won't be tens of millions of their brethren in the same boat. It's in effect creating tens of millions of a new criminal class with the stroke of a pen.

Goverment does that all the time.

Insurance requirements to drive wasnt always needed. A DL's wasnt always needed. Do it now without either and you are a criminal. There are many such laws.

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Oh yes, if all guns are banned, its a massive problem. But that isnt what we were discussing.

Finestiens bill if enacted as it reads now pretty much bans an entire class of modern firearms and requires not only registration of those already in private hands but imposes a $200 tax via NFA classification(same as machine guns). We are talking about tens of millions of guns effecting tens of millions of their owners. All this because of maybe one tenth of a percentage point of the total number of these firearm types that are actually misused. Unfortunately the legislation isn't aimed at those who misuse these weapons but those who don't misuse them.


Don't you see a problem with trying to enforce that ?

if I understand you correctly this means that if I already owned a gun on the list I would have to pay a two hundred dollar tax and have the same permit I would need for a tommy gun correct?