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They are on credit card looking things now.  So, I suppose you spot them that way. 

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When there aren't enough jobs to go around due to the work that the bulk of the people who wind up on welfare might have done being outsourced to Asia, that message sounds more like a crypto fascist pipe dream than anything resembling "common sense".

WTF!?!? Outsourcing isn't the topic. The topic is but one cog in the wheel that needs repairing. Why is it so many like to blow a topic up simply because it does not discuss every facet? Is it purposeful leftist derailment because it's dangerous and anathema to progressive ideology?

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I read a few pages and I am still trying to figure out how unemployment and jobs is not tied directly to welfare, as Yachtie keeps insisting. People wind up on assistance programs because they either do not have a job, or one that pays enough to take care of them and their family.

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They are on credit card looking things now.  So, I suppose you spot them that way. 

Thanks Aylee. Folks in my 'hood don't take real kindly to other customers' eyeing their payment, whether paper or plastic.

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Two Thoughts on Food Stamps:

(a) When I was commenting earlier on the interesting notion that those on welfare don't deserve to vote, I overlooked the fact that there are folks on "food stamps" who actually do hold down jobs. Economist Elise Gould observes, "Over 40 percent of all recipients live in households where family members are employed." So do they get to vote or not? Perhaps we could give them a partial franchise--say, 3/5 of a vote. (Bonus: A premade sandwich, purchased with 100-percent-earned income, for the first poster to catch the reference!)

(b) Decades ago, Notre Dame magazine had an interesting essay that I dearly wish I'd saved. The author was an ordinary guy, who was furious to discover, one fine Sunday, that his local bakery accepted food stamps. "The nerve!" he thought. What business did the poor have buying hard rolls or cookies or cakes? Week after week, the resentment grew, clashing uncomfortably with the teachings of love and compassion he'd tried to carry with him from church (his previous stop). Finally, he realized that what bugged him was not the possibility that some kid was getting an ill-deserved birthday cake instead of beans and rice, but that the poor folks' ability--even temporarily--to enjoy the same treats he did gnawed away at his sense of privilege and entitlement and social superiority. The author explained it much better than this, but that's the gist of what stayed with me.

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To be honest, I am a bit too busy at the checkout line with children and my own groceries to pay attention to others payment, myself.  I do notice while shopping all of the carts filled with cans, boxes, and frozen dinners.  I do not mean to sound patronizing, but I feel sorry for those people.  I am not anti-premade foods.  I just would not want to live off of them. 

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To be honest, I am a bit too busy at the checkout line with children and my own groceries to pay attention to others payment, myself.  I do notice while shopping all of the carts filled with cans, boxes, and frozen dinners.  I do not mean to sound patronizing, but I feel sorry for those people.  I am not anti-premade foods.  I just would not want to live off of them. 

Good point re the premade food, of which I eat entirely too much.

Part of what I was really wondering in my questions to boi was how many folks were actually seen using their SNAP money to buy premade sandwiches and how representative the group was of the 41 million folks who receive SNAP in an average month. (Source: USDA)

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The ones I see have no problem affording $4-5 premade sandwiches for lunch every day, so I have a lot of trouble working up much sympathy for them.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone use food stamps. How does one spot them? How big is the population of folks you see buying premade sandwiches?

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Theres a reason, politicians, when they do the "food stamp diet" only do it for a week. We dont have food stamps here, you can get special diet allowance if you have a gastro/diabetic/ related diet, works out to 50 bucks a month. But the meal allowance part of your welfare, is practically impossible to "subsist on.
Anyone trying to live on beans rice/powdered milk, cheese diet is more likely to go ballistic after three months. It was bad enough when they tried for a week.
the rest of her attempts to dictate how poor people live their lives, is typical ugly twunt with no clue to the realities ... so they ignore the real issues and attempt micromanage those they feel superior to.

Lucy, I was not trying to dictate what people could eat.  I was trying to point out the benefits of not having to rely on pre-made foods. 

No I understand that Aylee, I disagree with you on a few instances, but not with your statement...:)
I can think of many problems with the food and prepared stuff, I usually( 99%)make mine from scratch so I understand that.
But once in a while, I like the supermarkets own brand shepards pie... it sure isnt a weekly thing.
Its more of the perception like the OPs rant(whats her face) that every welfare recipient is eating steak with every meal or processed food three times a day, and demanding the right to tell them what they can and cant eat.

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I think part of that might be because you only hear about the welfare cheats in the news. There are no stories about the majority of them who are honestly trying to make it stretch and really need the help. Ones like the lady in MI who won millions in the lottery and still thought she should continue to collect food stamps make the headlines. Hopefully after some years experience she will understand that, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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They use a bridge card here and it's not to hard to miss when they pull it out. I have an advantage of being the cashier so it's a no brainer when they hand it to me.

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As to the population of folks buying premade sandwiches? In our store there are a number of regulars who do every morning on their way to work. Personally if that's the way they want to spend their money, I really don't care. I am just not going to feel bad for them if they run out early.

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The only one I have had a problem with is the one who went off like it was somehow my fault that she couldn't budget her money and ran out early.

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My guess is it is a very small percentage of people who do this. Saying that all welfare recipients are the same because some do it would be as stupid as saying all republicans are racist because some of them are.

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Is it any wonder....the original poster has disappeared...

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Is it any wonder....the original poster has disappeared...

Hardly

I may be outnumbered here but never outgunned.