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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:16:18 AM   
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Bama, I was being sarcastic, personally I have found that most women I instruct seem to be able to handle a .40 caliber automatic with little trouble. Strangely enough, every one of the women I have instructed always wants to try my desert eagle, which is good for a few laughs.

I have heard both good and bad things about the 10mm, but have never fired one.

As for the man that got into a gunfight while camping.

While the only firefights I ever got involved in was while I was in the army, and actually can be counted on one hand, my sniper rifle, in my opinion was quite useless. In those situations I would have preferred an M16.

As for the whole ban idea proposed by Feinstein. The first ban did nothing to prevent mass shootings, Columbine happened in the middle of the first ban.

I think the effort should be put in better back ground checks, and having mental conditions reported to the proper authorities so it would show up on a background check.

I agree with Tazzy's idea about a mandatory weapons security reg, enforcing a minimum standard of securing semi automatic rifles, but I really cannot see how it could be enforced.

as you no doubt know the .40 was developed because some people couldn't deal with the recoil of the 10mm but then I had a guy in basic who failed to qualify because the recoil of his M16 got to him

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:33:04 AM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:42:26 AM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

Never even seen one but I would think that you would really want to kill something to shoot that. whats it for T-rexes?

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:46:19 AM   
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Maybe the guy didnt want to kill her and just take her money.


He followed her to the attic.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:49:39 AM   
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Maybe the guy didnt want to kill her and just take her money.


He followed her to the attic.


hlen5 don't you know the intruder was basicly a nice guy just misunderstood (now were is that sarcasm font anyway)

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:52:28 AM   
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Oopsie, my mistake!!

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:54:53 AM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

Never even seen one but I would think that you would really want to kill something to shoot that. whats it for T-rexes?


Elephant, rhino... things you cant hunt anymore.

Can be used for elk and caribou.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:55:37 AM   
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Higher capacity magazines unnecessary. Follow the sniper motto....one shot..one kill. She needs to aim better.


Snipers also use "military style assault weapons". I have no problem with your suggestion. Leave the gun laws the way they are.



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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 12:14:28 PM   
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Higher capacity magazines unnecessary. Follow the sniper motto....one shot..one kill. She needs to aim better.


Snipers also use "military style assault weapons". I have no problem with your suggestion. Leave the gun laws the way they are.





The marines use a lapua .338 magnum bolt action rifle custom assembled by the sniper himself.

The Army issues a bolt action in the same caliber but I am unsure of the current base rifle model, since it recently changed.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 12:28:47 PM   
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The marines use a lapua .338 magnum bolt action rifle custom assembled by the sniper himself.


Where do you come up with this garbage. Snipers don't build their guns, they are built for them.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 12:36:42 PM   
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The marines use a lapua .338 magnum bolt action rifle custom assembled by the sniper himself.


Where do you come up with this garbage. Snipers don't build their guns, they are built for them.


I know for a fact the marine shooting team assembles their own weapons, however I found that the site I got the information from was contridicted by Wikipedia and a few other sites, I apologize for the misinformation.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 1:10:32 PM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

Never even seen one but I would think that you would really want to kill something to shoot that. whats it for T-rexes?


Elephant, rhino... things you cant hunt anymore.

Can be used for elk and caribou.

or large buildings
do you own one

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 2:10:45 PM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

Never even seen one but I would think that you would really want to kill something to shoot that. whats it for T-rexes?


Elephant, rhino... things you cant hunt anymore.

Can be used for elk and caribou.

or large buildings
do you own one



No, a friend bought one recently, have no clue what he is going to use it for.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 10:16:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961


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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.

Never even seen one but I would think that you would really want to kill something to shoot that. whats it for T-rexes?


Elephant, rhino... things you cant hunt anymore.

Can be used for elk and caribou.

or large buildings
do you own one



No, a friend bought one recently, have no clue what he is going to use it for.

dino invasion
or shooting burglars a county away
maybe he just thinks it would be fun to shoot

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/12/2013 11:35:17 PM   
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Bama, you want recoil, try firing a .700 nitro express rifle.

The barret 50 cal sniper rifle has less recoil.


What does either have to do with the topic of the thread?

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/13/2013 12:02:38 AM   
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At night when you're half asleep still and andrendlin is flowing, you want all the shots you can get.

On my parents ranch, we had problems with a pack of feral dogs once that were chasing horses and had attacked a neighbor's livestock. I started carrying an AR-15 with a fully loaded 30 round magazine with me to the barn. And yep, they will attack humans and they jumped out of the tree line near the barn to attack me. I emptied the 30 round magazine and was wishing I had another!! Luckily, they broke off and followed after a wounded. I killed 3 out of about 15. Don't tell me you don't need them, because the only reason I'm still walking around is because I had one. Any other rifle, once it was empty, they'ld just kept coming. Until they finally left the area or were killed, I kept a fully loaded magazine in the gun and had another when I left the house.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/13/2013 2:59:54 AM   
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And you are assuming she would have needed more to save her and the kids lives. It could just as easily be assumed that while one was being shot the other would have ran. Its a good thing she had that gun. Its a good thing he did as most robbers do these days and rang the door bell, giving her time to get the gun from the safe and them get to safety.



No need to open a safe or have time to get the gun in many homes. When I was a child I had my first gun lesson at the age of 2 or 3. It consisted of do not touch the guns. They can hurt you and if they do not your bottom will be sore!

My second gun lesson came at the age of 4 when my dad took me out back to shoot the 22 pistol. I tore up lots of beer and soda cans with dad's guidance.

From that time on there was a loaded gun in pretty much every room of the house. I knew not to touch them, but mom or dad could get one in a jiffy. About the time I turned 8 dad told me if someone forced their way into the house while I was home that I should first grab the 20 gauge if I could, hold on tight and fire each barrel in succession. If I could not get to the 20 gauge I was to grab the 22 pistol and empty the gun at the intruder.

There are plenty of homes like mine around the country where kids are taught early to respect guns. I was never permitted to handle any gun, except in case of intruder in the house, without adult supervision until I was about 12 or 13 at which point I could take my BB gun out on my own to target shoot and I think I was allowed to take my single shot 22 out about the time I turned 15, but dad insisted that if I was going to load and shoot it he check things out first to make sure my choice of target placement was safe and that I was following proper firearms safety.

I do not at this time have a firearm in my home. I live in a city that thinks it is above the Constitution and Bill of Rights. This is not by choice, but because that is where I could find work. There is a court case on the way to the supreme court now that might overthrow the prohibition on firearm ownership much as happened in DC and Chicago. When that happens there will be a firearm in every room of my home. My front door was already broken down once. No one was home, no one was hurt, but I lost about $25000 worth of stuff that my insurance refused to pay for because I did not have receipts going back some 30 years for my property! Had I been home when the door was broken in who knows what would have happened in my unarmed state.

I know someone will bring up how some kid got his parent's gun and shot himself, the neighbor kid, or the cat.....that only happens in homes where the parents do not teach their kids properly. If you have a hazard in your home and you have kids it is your job to teach them about the hazard. It matters not if the hazard is a firearm, a knife, A/C outlets, or swimming pools! If a parent is unable to keep their kid safe with a gun in the house then either that parent should chose not to have a gun, or their genes will not make it downstream very far. Just because you chose not have a gun does not mean that your choice should stand for me as well.

I am a free American and I have a right to chose for myself. Yep I am fully pro choice!

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/13/2013 3:19:30 AM   
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as you no doubt know the .40 was developed because some people couldn't deal with the recoil of the 10mm but then I had a guy in basic who failed to qualify because the recoil of his M16 got to him


What would he have done if he had to qualify with something bigger? Was this guy super small? I qualified with no problems using an M1 Garand. I guess the 30-06 would have knocked the guy on his ass!


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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/13/2013 3:12:04 PM   
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I personally don't support higher capacity magazines because, inevitably that just gives a publisher more pages to stick those ridiculous subscription cards into, which always fall out right when I have my seat back tray in the upright position, and a double Crown in my other hand.

With my napkin in my lap, I always feel frustrated at not being able to lean over and pick them up off the exit way.

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RE: Why people support higher capacity magazines - 1/13/2013 3:41:51 PM   
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I know someone will bring up how some kid got his parent's gun and shot himself, the neighbor kid, or the cat.....that only happens in homes where the parents do not teach their kids properly. If you have a hazard in your home and you have kids it is your job to teach them about the hazard. It matters not if the hazard is a firearm, a knife, A/C outlets, or swimming pools! If a parent is unable to keep their kid safe with a gun in the house then either that parent should chose not to have a gun, or their genes will not make it downstream very far. Just because you chose not have a gun does not mean that your choice should stand for me as well.


Just because I choose not to have a gun? I own a gun... go hunting every time I visit the folks.

We were told from an early age not to touch guns... do kids always listen? Nope...

What changed between us growing up and kids now? Not a damn thing except the technology is greater at getting information out about kids killing themselves with the gun daddy didnt lock up. Dont think that our generation was any better at listening than kids today. You are only fooling yourself.

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