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Guns


There is too much regulation already.
  10% (28)
There should be far more stringent background checks.
  15% (39)
Reinstate the ban on assault guns.
  11% (29)
Make conceal and carry the law in all 50 states.
  10% (28)
Make gun classes mandatory.
  16% (42)
The only guns availible to the public should be hunting rifles.
  4% (12)
The 2nd amendment includes individuals owning firearms.
  21% (54)
The 2nd amendment does not include individuals, it's been distorted.
  3% (8)
I wish my country had gun laws similar to the US
  0% (1)
I don't want my country to have gun laws like the US
  6% (16)


Total Votes : 257
(last vote on : 2/2/2013 9:53:19 PM)
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tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 12:40:27 AM)

LOL

My party platform....

Health care for all.

Chemical castration for anyone not paying child support.

Mandatory gun security measures.

Means tests for Medicare.

Politicians paid like our teachers... dont perform, you dont get paid.

And thats just the start [;)]




Powergamz1 -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:18:21 AM)

First, in all parts of this country, the main source of food is drive-throughs. A hunter going out alone as part of regular chores, and stocking the larder hasn't been the norm for a while.

Second, if the overwhelming majority of 'hunters' could find their ass with both hands, the aisles at WalMart/Kmart/BassPro and every local outdoor sports shop wouldn't be piled high with 50 lb bags of corn, timed deer feeders, trail-cams, tree-stands, and 4XL camo. There wouldn't be hunter shootings in every rural county in the US during hunting season. Alcohol sales wouldn't spike on the way to hunt camps. Deer population wouldn't be at disease spreading levels.
And the military wouldn't have such an abysmal rate of 'good ole boys' needing to be taught how to hit a target without a scope.


As long as you are peddling tired old fantasies, got any bridges?

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ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

Well this does raise an interesting point about frame of reference... the actual occurence of hunting in the US although an anachronism, does remain part of a direct lineage going back to the colonist/monarchist split.

In England, all wildlife belonged to the Crown (the charge for poaching was 'Taking the king's deer', and was a no-no for peasants, barring the occasional bunny-bop.
The elite were allowed all sorts of sports and gluttonous feasting on the results of the carnage, but the average person was already getting their animal food from knackers and fishermen at the time Daniel Boone was splitting bullets and kilting 'Bars'.

The image of the lone woodsman in the US remained one of providing food for one's own table. Even though it has morphed into today's alcohol fueled spree shooting where countless deer, corn feeders, floodlights, and the occasional enemy hunter die annually, the mythical image remains. It is a twin of the Gary Cooper lone hero with a six-shooter making entire communities safe against hirsute and unkempt gangs. The closest the Brits have to that iconic image is something called I believe 'Morris Dancing'...

In many parts of the country deer hunting is far from an anachronism many people eat venison all year, for some it is the primary source of meat. Your alcohol fuel spree shooting is an abomination spurined by the overwhelming majority of hunters but hyped by anti hunting groups.





MyEnemy -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:24:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

First, in all parts of this country, the main source of food is drive-throughs. A hunter going out alone as part of regular chores, and stocking the larder hasn't been the norm for a while.

Second, if the overwhelming majority of 'hunters' could find their ass with both hands, the aisles at WalMart/Kmart/BassPro and every local outdoor sports shop wouldn't be piled high with 50 lb bags of corn, timed deer feeders, trail-cams, tree-stands, and 4XL camo. There wouldn't be hunter shootings in every rural county in the US during hunting season. Alcohol sales wouldn't spike on the way to hunt camps. Deer population wouldn't be at disease spreading levels.
And the military wouldn't have such an abysmal rate of 'good ole boys' needing to be taught how to hit a target without a scope.


As long as you are peddling tired old fantasies, got any bridges?

I find that fact that you used the word fantasy to describe anyone else's perspective to be palpably ironic.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:26:34 AM)

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961
Friday night when I and five friends went over to a neighbor's place (9 miles away, but a neighbor none the less) we got a total of 9 out of 30 that were running together, one boar weighed just under 500 pounds, biggest one I have ever seen. As I said, I dont like the meat from wild boar, so we field dressed it, and took it to a local game processor to have it processed, smoked, and cooked into dog food.
Our count was two boars, and 7 sows, the sows processed out to each of us getting 400 pounds of meat, hams, ribs, bacon, and chops. which are being smoked for us as I type this, I will pick it all up probably Tuesday.
I got to use my 456 socom hog gun from Red Jacket. I took the boars, and my friends dealt with the smaller hogs.
The meat from the hog hunts are probably gonna pay for that rifle in about two years.
Tuesday I have been invited on a coyote hunt, seems a farmer has them taking his sheep... or they are feral dogs. Since there is a bounty on coyotes in this county, I should pay for my ammo.


Damn impressive haul, jlf! 400# of meat is an awful lot of meat, especially when it includes bacon.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:29:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
LOL
My party platform....
Health care for all.
Chemical castration for anyone not paying child support.
Mandatory gun security measures.
Means tests for Medicare.
Politicians paid like our teachers... dont perform, you dont get paid.
And thats just the start [;)]


Would that include term limits for politicians and no lifetime pension/medical care outside of what is also given to the ordinary Citizen?





tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:41:45 AM)

Hell yeah!

Found my Veep!




jlf1961 -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 5:53:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Hell yeah!

Found my Veep!



Uh, you failed to get my meaning, you, bamad and karata would BE the government. for at least a generation to get this country straightened out.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 6:02:16 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961
quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Hell yeah!
Found my Veep!

Uh, you failed to get my meaning, you, bamad and karata would BE the government. for at least a generation to get this country straightened out.


Hush, you. I'm looking for work here!




tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 6:22:59 AM)

LOL!

If we are successful.... since pay is based upon performance... do we make more money like the CEOs?




jlf1961 -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 6:29:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL!

If we are successful.... since pay is based upon performance... do we make more money like the CEOs?



I figure a salary cap at 400k a year, Sorry.

We are trying to fix the government, not put it further in debt.




tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 6:33:39 AM)

Hey, there is only 3 of us as opposed to 535 in the House and Senate alone, before we even get to staff....

Whoa.... first problem to tackle... Unemployment just exploded.




DesideriScuri -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 6:58:14 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Hey, there is only 3 of us as opposed to 535 in the House and Senate alone, before we even get to staff....
Whoa.... first problem to tackle... Unemployment just exploded.


LMAO!!!

Not only that, but it exploded with an amazing number of low-skill workers....




tazzygirl -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 7:03:36 AM)

Oh hell, you had to remind me, most have no real world work experience!




Fightdirecto -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 9:11:34 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD
...with a gun I at least have a chance.



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Aylee -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 9:13:07 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

My party platform....

Health care for all.

Chemical castration for anyone not paying child support.

Mandatory gun security measures.

Means tests for Medicare.

Politicians paid like our teachers... dont perform, you dont get paid.

And thats just the start [;)]


I could almost go with that. I want to be president though.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 10:24:26 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

First, in all parts of this country, the main source of food is drive-throughs. A hunter going out alone as part of regular chores, and stocking the larder hasn't been the norm for a while.

Second, if the overwhelming majority of 'hunters' could find their ass with both hands, the aisles at WalMart/Kmart/BassPro and every local outdoor sports shop wouldn't be piled high with 50 lb bags of corn, timed deer feeders, trail-cams, tree-stands, and 4XL camo. There wouldn't be hunter shootings in every rural county in the US during hunting season. Alcohol sales wouldn't spike on the way to hunt camps. Deer population wouldn't be at disease spreading levels.
And the military wouldn't have such an abysmal rate of 'good ole boys' needing to be taught how to hit a target without a scope.


As long as you are peddling tired old fantasies, got any bridges?



I wonder if we could be allowed for once to call this hyperbole what it actually is.

LIES




LadyPact -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 12:11:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

First, in all parts of this country, the main source of food is drive-throughs. A hunter going out alone as part of regular chores, and stocking the larder hasn't been the norm for a while.

Second, if the overwhelming majority of 'hunters' could find their ass with both hands, the aisles at WalMart/Kmart/BassPro and every local outdoor sports shop wouldn't be piled high with 50 lb bags of corn, timed deer feeders, trail-cams, tree-stands, and 4XL camo. There wouldn't be hunter shootings in every rural county in the US during hunting season. Alcohol sales wouldn't spike on the way to hunt camps. Deer population wouldn't be at disease spreading levels.
And the military wouldn't have such an abysmal rate of 'good ole boys' needing to be taught how to hit a target without a scope.


As long as you are peddling tired old fantasies, got any bridges?
As much as I know wiki is frowned on as a source, it's the best I've got for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Junction,_Alaska Please pay particular attention to this section near the bottom:

quote:

Many people in Delta Junction supplement their food supply by hunting the moose, caribou, Dall sheep and bison in the area, as well as fishing. A few operate small gold mines or hunt or trap fur-bearing animals for extra income.


While there are some restaurants here, there isn't a single drive-thru in sight. Not for a hundred miles, anyway. The running gag that we have in our house is that someday, when we move back to civilization, we're anxious to have the luxury of having a pizza delivered.

It may not be the norm but it does exist.





jlf1961 -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 12:28:52 PM)

Gee, lets see, I live on a fixed income, better than the high average in this area, but fixed none the less.

If I want something, I usually have to save months for it, and give up some other things.

So to supplement grocery costs, in deer season I hunt deer, get my limit for maybe 250 pounds of meat, since deer are small in west Texas.

I hunt wild hogs for neighboring ranchers and farmers, and do not charge for the service, as I want the meat for dog food and myself, and anything that wont fit in my freezer I sell to restaurants in the area that serve wild game.

I have an acre and half garden I plant each spring.

I usually raise two steers at a neighbors place to butcher for meat every year.

All in all, for a family of six, our grocery bill is down to between 2 and 3 hundred a month.




Moonhead -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 12:32:25 PM)

Do you get much out of the acre and a half if there's hogs in the area?




Level -> RE: Guns (1/28/2013 12:42:33 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

LOL

My party platform....

Health care for all.

Chemical castration for anyone not paying child support.

Mandatory gun security measures.

Means tests for Medicare.

Politicians paid like our teachers... dont perform, you dont get paid.

And thats just the start [;)]


I could almost go with that. I want to be president though.



Can we get something for both males and females having kids they can't afford? And legalize pot? And make the tax code fit in a five page pamphlet, at most?




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