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Real0ne -> RE: is holacaust denial antisemitic? (1/25/2013 12:42:56 AM)
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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne
We need for you to explain the difference because someone apparently cant count very well, that and another huge problem is that according to your standards that makes the proprietors of auschwitz antisemite because now there is a 2.5 million difference from the 6 million.
They changed the official count somehow just wiped out 2.5 million people
So Jeff what makes me an antisemite instead of a news reporter that is reporting interesting "stuff".
How is a Japanese-Jew a semite?
These are all very simple questions why have you not answered any of them?
Oh, I can explain that dude. In fact Wikipedia is readily able to explain it to you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp#Death_toll
In particular, I note this bit:
After the collapse of the Communist government in 1989, the plaque at Auschwitz State Museum was removed and the official death toll given as 1.1 million. Holocaust deniers have attempted to use this change as propaganda, in the words of the Nizkor Project:
Deniers often use the 'Four Million Variant' as a stepping stone to leap from an apparent contradiction to the idea that the Holocaust was a hoax, again perpetrated by a conspiracy. They hope to discredit historians by making them seem inconsistent. If they can't keep their numbers straight, their reasoning goes, how can we say that their evidence for the Holocaust is credible? One must wonder which historians they speak of, as most have been remarkably consistent in their estimates of a million or so dead... Few (if any) historians ever believed the Museum's four million figure, having arrived at their own estimates independently. The museum's inflated figures were never part of the estimated five to six million Jews killed in the Holocaust, so there is no need to revise this figure.
The simplest explanation is that - like Holocaust Deniers - communist governments have a very tenuous relationship with the truth and Poland's post-war government was distinctly communist.
It's not so much that you're an anti-Semite dude - you're just an apologist for Islamic aggression. And you think attacking the Holocaust is attacking the character of the Jewish people - and by extension the Israelis - instead of just being the ridiculous sideshow that it is.
How did you come to that conclusion again?
How can the change they made for real be used as propaganda? Propaganda is invariantly completely false and misleading when in fact they did change the sign and the did lower it, I thought to 1.5 million but it looks like its 1.1 million now.
So then all those tourists were lied to huh? Isnt that propaganda?
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Example Death certificate from Auschwitz
[image]http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o296/nine_one_one/holycausts/2006_03_24_1_d.jpg[/image]
According to the official death books, there were 400,000 prisoners at Auschwitz
Half Israelis - 200,000
Of that number, 30,000 died
15%
Also according to the official death books, the other 200,000 breaks down like this
165,000 Catholics
12,300 Eastern Orthodox
11,600 Protestants
5,500 Greek Catholics
9,700 Other, including 5 Muslims and 387 Jehovah's Witnesses
of these numbers:
Almost 32,000 Catholics died, almost 2,500 Eastern Orthodox died, almost 2,300 Protestants died, over 1,000 Greek Catholics died
In other words:
82.5%
Of the Catholics died
20.3%
Of the Eastern Orthodox died
19.8%
Of the protestants died
18.2%
Of the Greek Catholics died
Compared to 15% of the Israelis
All the "Denier" stuff so when a historian comes along and disputes the present numbers regardless of his credibility he is thought of as a DENIER!
its usually not like wiki to use pejorative laced accusations as they have. Surprizing.
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