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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Yeah, social security, and blacks (although they are of the Jewish faith in some small numbers) does not have a fucking thing to do with antisemitism concerning holocaust deniers, nor does anything you have projectile vomited here have any fact or credible citation associated with it. 


Stay on the topic, not all this geyser of fucking stupidity to and fro like shitballs rolling free.

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ORIGINAL: crazyml

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I think that, for all practical purposes, holocaust denial is antisemitic.

I say that because, sure people have to be able to challenge history, test claims and debate "received wisdom", but for fuck's sake... The swimming pool "controversy" has had the arse fucked out of it so many times that even bringing it up is apt to make you look like you're either a fucking nasty anti-Semite who is cynically trying to stir up an utterly false debate, or you're so fucking stupid, so unable to engage your critical faculties and so incapable of doing the merest bit of fact checking that, well frankly you should be ashamed of yourself.

I do wish that before posting such utter shit people could at least check the source of the "revelation" and then take two ticks to see how many times it's been kicked out of the park....

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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

and tell me why all that entertainment would be at a DEATH camp?

With videos of Jewish people having a great time in suits and ties no less?

See ML these things dont add up. Why go through the expense?

Why did the russians build a fake gas chamber?

Nothing adds up with this man

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

My statement was what constituted an anti-semiticism remark. Addressing historical events is not disparaging. Addressing what your opinion is of the race or religion is in a disparaging manner does constitute anti semiticism. <SNIP>

And this still keeps evading the question that has been asked more than once....

When someone posts Holocaust denier rhetoric using the same 'never happened' memes from StormFront or David Irving... Is it a TOS violation to call those posts Holocaust denial?

When someone uses David Duke's rhetoric about black people never contributing anything to society, or about how hard white men are oppressed today, is it a TOS violation to call their posts white supremacist propaganda?

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

My statement was what constituted an anti-semiticism remark. Addressing historical events is not disparaging. Addressing what your opinion is of the race or religion is in a disparaging manner does constitute anti semiticism. <SNIP>

And this still keeps evading the question that has been asked more than once....

When someone posts Holocaust denier rhetoric using the same 'never happened' memes from StormFront or David Irving... Is it a TOS violation to call those posts Holocaust denial?

When someone uses David Duke's rhetoric about black people never contributing anything to society, or about how hard white men are oppressed today, is it a TOS violation to call their posts white supremacist propaganda?

Posting the links to discuss the links is acceptable. Linking such subjects as DavidDukes beliefs for discussion is acceptable. Posting the links for David Dukes to illustrate how much you agree with him about white supremacy and expound from there to denigrate blacks is not. Posting the links such as StormFront and David Irving for discussion and to help illustrate thoughts is acceptable. Posting the links to those with the intention of saying that you are in total agreement with their beliefs, and expound from there to denigrate said Jewish subjects, are not.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

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ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

My statement was what constituted an anti-semiticism remark. Addressing historical events is not disparaging. Addressing what your opinion is of the race or religion is in a disparaging manner does constitute anti semiticism. <SNIP>

And this still keeps evading the question that has been asked more than once....

When someone posts Holocaust denier rhetoric using the same 'never happened' memes from StormFront or David Irving... Is it a TOS violation to call those posts Holocaust denial?

When someone uses David Duke's rhetoric about black people never contributing anything to society, or about how hard white men are oppressed today, is it a TOS violation to call their posts white supremacist propaganda?

Posting the links to discuss the links is acceptable. Linking such subjects as DavidDukes beliefs for discussion is acceptable. Posting the links for David Dukes to illustrate how much you agree with him about white supremacy and expound from there to denigrate blacks is not. Posting the links such as StormFront and David Irving for discussion and to help illustrate thoughts is acceptable. Posting the links to those with the intention of saying that you are in total agreement with their beliefs, and expound from there to denigrate said Jewish subjects, are not.

How precisely is calling every jew in the world a liar not denigration?

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se·mit·ic
/səˈmitik/
Adjective

Relating to or denoting a family of languages that includes Hebrew, Arabic, and Aramaic and certain ancient languages such as Phoenician...
Of or relating to the peoples who speak these languages, esp. Hebrew and Arabic.

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In linguistics and ethnology, Semitic (from the Biblical "Shem", Hebrew: שם, translated as "name", Arabic: ساميّ‎) was first used to refer to a language family of largely Middle Eastern origin, now called the Semitic languages. This family includes the ancient and modern forms of Ahlamu, Akkadian, Amharic, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic

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Who is a Semite??
One of the myths that has been perpetrated on the world is that only Jews are semites. This is totally inaccurate. Unfortunately, the ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) has made a fortune in donations and has conned most media networks and most people in the world into believing this untruth.

If one looks into the history of the word, “Semite”, it has to do with a language group and no more. The semitic languages are, at least according to most linguistic experts, Amharic (spoken in Ethiopia and Eritrea, the lands once known as Abyssinia), Arabic (spoken in all the Arab countries and in many Muslim countries because it is the language of the Qur’an), Hebrew (spoken in Israel and by some Jews and others outside of Israel), Aramaic (spoken primarily by the Chaldeans of Iraq and by some Catholic and Maronite Christians in the world, at least in their church services if not in their homes or business) and Syriac (spoken by a few in various parts of Syria and in the Middle East). Incidentally, according to most linguists, Abraham, the father of the Jews and Arabs, spoke Aramaic, that was the language of the land at the time, not Hebrew.

To get back to facts about Semites, Jews, language and genetics, let me go further. The actual genetic Jews were born in the Middle East and are known as Sephardic Jews. These Jews did speak a semitic language, Hebrew , from their earliest incarnation, but also, some at the time of Christ, also spoke Aramaic, Arabic and Amharic because of their location in Jerusalem and other Middle Eastern cities such as what is now Addis Abbabba, Cairo, Baghdad and Damascus. One rarely hears a Sephardic Jew yelling, ”anti-Semite” because he knows better and because he is aware of his own history within semitic language speaking lands.

Let me be clear about another important matter; I am not touting for people who are anti-Jewish or anti-Arab, or anti-any ethnic or racial group; those people who stereotype or attack others based on their race or ethnicity are dead wrong and should be condemned-so too should those who abuse labels and use them wrongly to stop others from being justifiably critical should also be condemned

http://pragmaticwitness.com/who-is-a-semite/

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

Well, before I put Realone on ignore, every site he linked to to prove his points were antisemitic sites. From what I am seeing in responses to him, that has not changed.

I am sorry to say that most of the responses on this topic have been that denial of the holocaust is antisemitic. The countries have laws banning it and listing holocaust denial as antisemitic.

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

the "entertainment centers" were there for two reason....one, the Nazis liked to make films aka propaganda showing the Jews enjoying entertainment such as movies and starring in their own plays and playing music, etc....It was to convince the rest of the world that the camps were not extermination camps.

When propaganda was not being filmed, they were used by the Nazis themselves to have fun while at the camp. The camps also had rec centers and kitchens and homes for the Nazi staff to use. Many of the Jews worked in them for the Nazi entertainment and luxuries.