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BamaD -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 12:31:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 The detail you fail to realize in citing those numbers is that not all countries are the same size. That is on a per capita bases so it petty much equal... Oh, I see... 11,877,218 crimes per capita in the U.S. Yes, that's shocking. I stand corrected. K. doesn't that mean that each person in the U S is the victim of over 11,000 crimes a year?

epiphiny43 -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 12:48:28 AM)
Do people wear math illiteracy as a badge? (Not BamaD's tongue in cheek) The UK has considerably more property and personal injury crime, the US has more murder. Subtract the drug gangs killing each other and that difference halves. We still 'win'.

Kirata -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 12:49:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD doesn't that mean that each person in the U S is the victim of over 11,000 crimes a year? No, it means each person in the U.S. endures over 11 million crimes a year. Though, of course, if you count every single one of the fuckheaded posts in some of these threads, I suppose it's possible. If only society had a "Hide" function, eh? "Ha, sucker, you can't mug me! I have you hidden!" K.

BamaD -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 1:47:22 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: BamaD doesn't that mean that each person in the U S is the victim of over 11,000 crimes a year? No, it means each person in the U.S. endures over 11 million crimes a year. Though, of course, if you count every single one of the fuckheaded posts in some of these threads, I suppose it's possible. If only society had a "Hide" function, eh? "Ha, sucker, you can't mug me! I have you hidden!" K. Maybe we should all have "Gun free zone" tattoed on our foreheads then bad guys couldn't come after us with guns. Several people have made it clear that if the bad guy doesn't have a gun he can't hurt you.

PeonForHer -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 3:02:17 AM)
FR It seems those figures do indeed refer to crime per 100,000 people. The USA is top of the list: "Asia even though not that economically sound is far safer as compared to the ten countries listed on this map United States with 11,877,218 is the most unsafe country in this list while India, with 1,764,630 is the safest. " Found at http://www.mapsofworld.com/world-top-ten/countries-with-highest-reported-crime-rates.html

DesideriScuri -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 5:55:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies Seems we don't have any common ground... Lucky us! For assaults, the UK ranks 2nd in the world, the U.S. ranks 9th; for rape, the UK ranks 6th, the U.S. 13th; and for total crime victims the UK ranks 3rd, the U.S. 15th. Assault Victims by Country Rape Victims by Country Total Crime Victims by Country K. Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. Then there is the UNDOC report for 2012 that shows the US crime rate at 4.8 per 100, 000 and the UK at 1.2 per 100,000 http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 Did you bother to read the "definitions" in any of the links? quote: DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. That was pulled from yours, Nosathro, though it also appears in the ones from Kirata.

Powergamz1 -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 12:49:34 PM)
That's spin, not math. quote: ORIGINAL: epiphiny43 Do people wear math illiteracy as a badge? (Not BamaD's tongue in cheek) The UK has considerably more property and personal injury crime, the US has more murder. Subtract the drug gangs killing each other and that difference halves. We still 'win'.

Hillwilliam -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 12:57:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: deathtothepixies Seems we don't have any common ground... Lucky us! For assaults, the UK ranks 2nd in the world, the U.S. ranks 9th; for rape, the UK ranks 6th, the U.S. 13th; and for total crime victims the UK ranks 3rd, the U.S. 15th. Assault Victims by Country Rape Victims by Country Total Crime Victims by Country K. Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. Then there is the UNDOC report for 2012 that shows the US crime rate at 4.8 per 100, 000 and the UK at 1.2 per 100,000 http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population.[8\|]

Nosathro -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 1:15:08 PM)
You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population.[8\|] Why the reports did it for me.[:D]

Nosathro -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 1:18:47 PM)
Did you bother to read the "definitions" in any of the links? quote: DEFINITION: Note: Crime statistics are often better indicators of prevalence of law enforcement and willingness to report crime, than actual prevalence. That was pulled from yours, Nosathro, though it also appears in the ones from Kirata. If you had read my post you would have notice I was stating the link that Kirata had posted "Total Crime Victims by Country". I did also show referrence the UN report.

Hillwilliam -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 1:52:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Why the reports did it for me.[:D] No they didn't. Here's your link http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 It says "Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country" TOTAL CRIMES, not crimes per unit population You can't even interpret a fucking chart, much less a graph.

Nosathro -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 1:59:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Why the reports did it for me.[:D] No they didn't. Here's your link http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 It says "Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country" TOTAL CRIMES, not crimes per unit population You can't even interpret a fucking chart, much less a graph. You: You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population. Me: Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. You seem to have a trouble with reading....do you need a few basic reading classes.....or do you need glasses?

Hillwilliam -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 2:08:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Why the reports did it for me.[:D] No they didn't. Here's your link http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 It says "Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country" TOTAL CRIMES, not crimes per unit population You can't even interpret a fucking chart, much less a graph. You: You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population. Me: Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. You seem to have a trouble with reading....do you need a few basic reading classes.....or do you need glasses? First, you said this. "Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706." in post 155 Then, you said this. "That is on a per capita bases so it petty much equal... " in post 157 . I'm afraind that I need glasses far less then you need comprehension skills. Are you going to claim you didn't say those 2 things? They are there for everyone to see. Yaknow Goreans are supposed to be honorable and truthful and everything.[8\|]

Nosathro -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 2:41:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Why the reports did it for me.[:D] No they didn't. Here's your link http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 It says "Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country" TOTAL CRIMES, not crimes per unit population You can't even interpret a fucking chart, much less a graph. You: You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population. Me: Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. You seem to have a trouble with reading....do you need a few basic reading classes.....or do you need glasses? First, you said this. "Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706." in post 155 Then, you said this. "That is on a per capita bases so it petty much equal... " in post 157 . I'm afraind that I need glasses far less then you need comprehension skills. Are you going to claim you didn't say those 2 things? They are there for everyone to see. Yaknow Goreans are supposed to be honorable and truthful and everything.[8\|] I think you are having delusions....does your mother know you here? I still like to see where I said You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population." Oh what a minute it was you..now you are blaming me for what you said. And now you claim to have read all 32 books of Gor...as for me...well as someone I know said "I reject your reality and substitue my own" now be good and deal with it.[sm=ass.gif]

Focus50 -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 7:48:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. The links are fine, thank you. The detail you fail to realize in citing those numbers is that not all countries are the same size. Shocking, I know. But honest, it's true. K. That is on a per capita bases so it petty much equal... Nosathro, this is your "per capita" statistical comparison (post #155): "Then there is the UNDOC report for 2012 that shows the US crime rate at 4.8 per 100, 000 and the UK at 1.2 per 100,000". It's also the one line in your post Kirata conveniently deleted (post #156) before smugly declaring "The detail you fail to realize in citing those numbers is that not all countries are the same size." Mate, if you're gonna mess with snakes, you need to know their ways. At the very least, keep your eyes open, cos now you've got a blood-sniffing bandwagon joining in ta boot...! Focus.

Kirata -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 7:58:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Focus50 the one line in your post Kirata conveniently deleted... I quoted the part of his post I was responding to, just like I'm omitting your "snake" comment here. K.

Hillwilliam -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 8:55:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Why the reports did it for me.[:D] No they didn't. Here's your link http://www.nationmaster.com/red/graph/cri_tot_cri-crime-total-crimes&b_map=1 It says "Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country" TOTAL CRIMES, not crimes per unit population You can't even interpret a fucking chart, much less a graph. You: You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population. Me: Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706. You seem to have a trouble with reading....do you need a few basic reading classes.....or do you need glasses? First, you said this. "Really?? you better re check your links the Total Crime shows the US at number #1 with 11, 877, 218 and the UK at #2 with a total of 6,523, 706." in post 155 Then, you said this. "That is on a per capita bases so it petty much equal... " in post 157 . I'm afraind that I need glasses far less then you need comprehension skills. Are you going to claim you didn't say those 2 things? They are there for everyone to see. Yaknow Goreans are supposed to be honorable and truthful and everything.[8\|] I think you are having delusions....does your mother know you here? I still like to see where I said You would think that someone who is such a great statistician would be able to take total crimes and divide by population to determine crimes/unit population." Oh what a minute it was you..now you are blaming me for what you said. And now you claim to have read all 32 books of Gor...as for me...well as someone I know said "I reject your reality and substitue my own" now be good and deal with it.[sm=ass.gif] It's none of anyone's business whether Im here. You are the one who claimed to have A's in statistics Is that a lie? You are the one who claimed miltiple graduate degrees. Is that a lie? I did not claim anywhere to have read all the books of Gor. Therefore, your statement " And now you claim to have read all 32 books of Gor..." is a fucking lie. Someone here isn't telling the truth and it isn't me boy. Are you going to tell any more lies boy? My advice is to leave the adults and go back to your dress up games.

Kirata -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 9:03:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Then there is the UNDOC report for 2012 that shows the US crime rate at 4.8 per 100, 000 and the UK at 1.2 per 100,000 Since Focus50 feels I've done you a disservice by not addressing this claim, allow me to point out that 4.8 is NOT the per capita crime rate in the U.S., that 1.2 is NOT the per capita crime rate in the UK, and that the UNDOC has NOT as of this posting completed compiling its statistics for 2012. Otherwise, accurate as usual. K.

Hillwilliam -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 9:11:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kirata quote: ORIGINAL: Nosathro Then there is the UNDOC report for 2012 that shows the US crime rate at 4.8 per 100, 000 and the UK at 1.2 per 100,000 Since Focus50 feels I've done you a disservice by not addressing this claim, allow me to point out that 4.8 is NOT the per capita crime rate in the U.S., that 1.2 is NOT the per captia crime rate in the UK, and that the UNDOC has NOT as of this posting completed compiling its statistics for 2012. Otherwise, accurate as usual. K. Fucking lie in other words?

Nosathro -> RE: In an effort to find some common ground. (2/6/2013 9:37:36 PM)
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