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Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 9:37:41 PM

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I need something with low calori low card low sugar,

I know my doctor told me not to eat to many eggs because to many will raise my cholesteral, but other than that.

Breakfast

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Apple Cinnamon Oatmeal
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Apple Granola Bar

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Banana Spice Muffin
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Blueberry Bran Muffin

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Chocolate Chip Granola Bar
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Chocolate Crisp Cereal - Artificially Flavored

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Cranberry Granola Bar
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Frosted Oats Cereal

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Lemon Poppyseed Muffin
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Lowfat Granola Cereal

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Mini Frosted Shredded Wheat Cereal
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NutriCinnamon Squares Cereal

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NutriCoconut O's Cereal
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NutriFlakes Cereal - 40% Bran Cereal

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NutriFrosted Crunch Cereal
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Oatmeal

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Pancake Mix
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Raspberry and Crème Flavored Cereal

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Scrambled Egg Mix with Cheese
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Scrambled Eggs - Smoke Flavor

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Scrambled Eggs with Peppers and Mushrooms
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Tropical Fruit Drink

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 9:50:35 PM

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I need something with low calori low card low sugar,

I know my doctor told me not to eat to many eggs because to many will raise my cholesteral, but other than that.

Breakfast

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Apple Cinnamon Oatmeal - if it's the instant kind not really
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Apple Granola Bar - most granola bars are high in fats

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Banana Spice Muffin - make them from scratch and you can control the fat content. Best thing you can do is buy a Diabetics reciepe book. all the food is very healthy and you can lose weight on it. Or buy a Low fat low carbs receipe book
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Blueberry Bran Muffin - ditto

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Chocolate Chip Granola Bar - No
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Chocolate Crisp Cereal - Artificially Flavored - No

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Cranberry Granola Bar - high in fat usually
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Frosted Oats Cereal - Buy the multigrain Cheerios instead. they are lightly sweetend and way less sugar. They are good. Honest me and my daughter love them.

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Lemon Poppyseed Muffin - same as the other muffins read above
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Lowfat Granola Cereal - might not be too bad, check sodium and type of fat though

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Mini Frosted Shredded Wheat Cereal - These aren't too bad
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NutriCinnamon Squares Cereal

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NutriCoconut O's Cereal
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NutriFlakes Cereal - 40% Bran Cereal

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NutriFrosted Crunch Cereal
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Oatmeal - If it's real rolled oats it is good for you. Don't load up on cream and sugar on it though

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Pancake Mix - get the whole wheat mix
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Raspberry and Crème Flavored Cereal - Probably not

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Scrambled Egg Mix with Cheese - just me but this sounds icky *s*
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Scrambled Eggs - Smoke Flavor - ditto

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Scrambled Eggs with Peppers and Mushrooms - yummy if real and not a mix
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Tropical Fruit Drink - Rule of thumb. Stay away from anything that says "beverage or drink" on the lable. If you want juice buy real fruit juice not chemicals mixed to resemble such with a hint of real juice added.

Couple of idea to follow. Look at where they list the %'s if the fiber is higher then the fat content then it's probalby ok. Make sure to check the sodium content.

If Sugar, Gluclose, Frucose, or any other type of sugar is listed in the top three ingredients don't buy it.

Try to stick to as much natural and real food as possible. Processed foods are not good for you.

Eat lots of vegtables. Becareful with fruits and fruit juices as they are high in sugars. Even if they are natural sugars.

Drink lots of water and for juices Cranberry juice is great for you as is pomigrantit <sp> juice. Grapefruit juice is low in calories and sugar as well if you stay away from pink. Though you can get most in low cal format now as well.

Hope this helps

Oh. also if you want scrambled eggs. use just the egg whites. then it wont effect your colesterol.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 10:09:24 PM

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I'd say substitute "egg beaters" or another egg substitute (for me, tofu, but I know most people aren't too fond of it) and have the scrambled eggs with lots of veggies. Most of the other options have refined carbs, sugars, or both.
Things like oatmeal or Bran-tastic cereals can be much better health-wise, but if you're on a specific low-carb diet they usually frown on those. If you're just looking to reduce your refined carbs, they should be fine. Real Irish oats are a favorite, especially with peanut butter.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 10:16:18 PM

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Excellent source of information is www.vrg.org. I can tell you right now that they won't recommend egg and cheese, but can discuss "cheeseless" foods. Live plant foods are best for us. If you seriously want to come up to speed and eat scrumptious food, consider a weekend immersion at http://www.vegetariansummerfest.org/

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 10:19:55 PM

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I had egg beaters egg supstitute and the scrambled eggs were nasty hahaha.

Akisha, we've sound some gorgiously tatsy juices Ocean spray light, it's 10 grams of sugar compared to the 44 or more other juices have and 40 calories compared to the 144 regular juices have.

I also like crystal light raspberry splash, it's got splenda and it's only 3 calories, And natural waters too.

I didn't think the chocolate chip granola was healthy either lol. Odd thing is , these are all what you buy on those meal plans where you're posta be loosing weight by eating healthy choices in which. you get food for the month

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 10:25:28 PM

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Granola bars = cookies.
Pancakes/Muffins = cake.
Instant flavored oatmeals are loaded in sugar.
Even boxed cereals like granola have a ton of sugar and carbs.
Eggs with veggies in them are good. If you cant handle eggs much, try a low carb bar for breakfast. They are loaded in protien and have very very low sugar. Only about 3-4 impact carbs. And some of them taste really good. You have to experiment and see which ones you like best. EAS makes really good ones in chocolate brownie and chocolate peanut butter. They fill you up too.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 10:55:40 PM

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My personal reccomendation for a diet indulgence would have to be ProMax Energy Bars. Especially the cookies 'n cream, but they have a bunch of awesome flavours. Heres the info on the cookies and cream, which I eat about 1 a day of, and I've been dropping weight easily... while doing not much haha

Per 75g Bar

Calories: 291
Protien: 20g
Total fat: 6.5g
Total Carb: 39g
Sodium: 190mg
Potassium: 220mg

They were reccomended to me by 2 docs, a nutritionist and I can't even count how many wrestlers/martial artists. The carb number may seem high but I'm told that its "good carbs." Not starchy indigestible carbs. In any case, I love em to death, and they really do taste just lke normal chocolate bars... Not processed crap like sooo many energy bars. I personally love them half to death.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 11:06:08 PM

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Apple Cinnamon Oatmeal
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whole grain regular oatmeal is better than instant, and steel cut is better than regular oatmeal, has a lower glycemic index (digests more slowly so doesn't raise blood sugar as much). Watch for added sugar in the flavored oatmeals too.

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Apple Granola Bar

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Banana Spice Muffin
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Blueberry Bran Muffin

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Chocolate Chip Granola Bar
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Chocolate Crisp Cereal - Artificially Flavored

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Cranberry Granola Bar
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Frosted Oats Cereal

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Lemon Poppyseed Muffin
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Lowfat Granola Cereal

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Mini Frosted Shredded Wheat Cereal
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NutriCinnamon Squares Cereal

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NutriCoconut O's Cereal

Most of these are loaded with added sugar. Some better choices for bars are Kashi bars, South Beach bars, carb select Pria Power Bars, and Lara Bars.

For cereal some good low sugar, whole grain ones are: Kashi puffed cereal, Weight Watchers puffed cereal, plain shredded wheat, all bran cereal, South Beach cereals.

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Pancake Mix
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Healthy pancake mixes are the ones made with whole grains like: buckwheat, Bob's Red Mill 10 grain pancake mix, and Kodiak pancake mix.

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Scrambled Egg Mix with Cheese
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Is this an egg substitute? Personally I use 1/2 C egg sub with 1 egg and scramble it with lots of veggies (spinach is great in eggs) and low fat cheese.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 11:08:46 PM

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proud sub I don't like the egg substitute we have availible here, it cooks up with a very watery weak flavor.

Ok, well Iknow those pre packaged foods that are suppsoed to be healthy for you are worse than tv dinner shit sometimes. There is at least 4 entree's that call for high fat cream like creamy alfredo with cream sauce

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 11:20:39 PM

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proud sub I don't like the egg substitute we have availible here, it cooks up with a very watery weak flavor

The Kirkland brand ( Costco) of egg substitute is pretty good I think and also cheap.

Feline, if you learn to read labels you can pick healthy foods. Look for whole grains, no added sugar (some veggies, fruits, and dairy products have natural sugars), no trans fats (partially hydrogenated oils), and low in saturated fats. Avoid white flours (enriched flour, bleached flour, wheat flour) and pasta, and products with tons of ingredients that you can't pronounce (that indicates it's highly processed). Choose fresh whole foods whenever you can instead of packaged ones.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 11:31:14 PM

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As a general rule:

- Whole wheat or whole grain is better than the alternative (bread, pasta, cereal...ex. if you usually would buy white bread, switch to whole wheat)

- Carbs aren't bad, look at Asians for example, most of the food is carbs (rices, breads) yet generally people from Asian countries are not overweight. This is because of two things, one they use carbs in reasonable portions, they don't just pig out on a huge bowl, and two si they cook in a healthier way (rice is typically steamed, don't believe the "Chinese Food" hype...this is not how they eat in China lol)

- Portion control is everything, as I read once and thought it was perfectly stated, "Whatever you eat, no matter how 'good' it is for you, if you eat too much, you're going to gain weight. A client came to me and said I eat 20 to 25 oranges a day, that's healthy, I don't know why i keep gaining weight. I said, 'If you eat 25 of anything, you're going to gain weight.'" ....Good, right? Simple and makes logical sense.

- Most things with less calories contain more fat to balance things out and make it taste good.

- Most things with less fat have more calories for the same reason, they want it to taste good

- Drink plenty of water, often when you're dehydrated, your body reacts with feelings of hunger...yep, our bodies can be strange lol Plus, if you drink a tall glass of water before a meal, you will always eat less and feel full.

- Drinking water rather than juices or soda is going to make you lose weight by default; if you drink more than one glass of 100% fruit juice daily, just by cutting out the sugary juices or sodas, you will lose weight over time, even if you do nothing else. Water also makes the body function more efficiently and burns calories without adding any to the system, unlike any other beverage.

- The MOST important rule is that this is not a diet, diets are short term, they will make you lose weight but when you change the way you eat back to the way it was before losing the weight...you will GAIN IT BACK! You have to commit to changing the way you view food; it's to be enjoyed, sure, but it's main function is to operate the body. It's not a comfort blanket to make you feel better, it's not a cure for boredom, it's not the only enjoyable thing in life. Replace bad eating habits with good ones and KEEP THEM that way!

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/21/2006 11:44:38 PM

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I agree, PEople often use food in substitute of what they really need. Need self acceptance, do a self help workshop don't eat.

Btw I don't drink soda's except when I have no choice to like if you're thirsty and the only option is a soda or to go thirsty,* let me amend that, soda's are a EXTREAMLY RARE treat for me, like not even one every 6 months.

I just this last 4 months realized how bad juices are for me, I was testing prediabeties EVERYTIME I tested, and I didn't know why, because I didn't eat all the cakes and candies, and pies, and chocolates and stuff you associate with high sugar, I DID however have a glass of juice a day or more with 44 grams of sugar or more

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 1:18:52 AM

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Those are Nurtrisystem (sp?) foods aren't they? They are supposed to be well balanced, but you do have to realize that the reason why you can eat some of those foods (which normally have a high fat content) on that plan is also because the portions are small. (Which is why they can offer you cream based things.) Nutrisystem is all based on the glycemic index. When you buy their food you are simply just paying for the convenience and the moderated portion control. You can just as well make the meals yourself if you think about what you are eating and plan in advance.

I considered going through their plan for the convenience, but decided to do it myself (plus when I added it all up it was incredibly expensive for what you get.) Plus, those items have to have a ton of preservatives/sodium in them which is not good for anyone. Just do some research on the glycemic index online and plan your own menus. Beyond the fact that it will help you lose weight, you will feel better..

As far as egg beaters and other substitutes go, I have a problem eating some of the brands as well (although I can happily eat egg whites so I don't really have to worry about that.) You really do have to try different brands when it comes to egg substitutes, they don't all taste the same. I use morning stars version (after trying at least 5 other brands,) and I find I enjoy them a lot more than most of the other brands... so shop around, and hopefully you can find one you like. Like the other posters mentioned, oatmeal is a great thing, but you really should make it yourself and not buy instant flavored oatmeal. Just add your own flavors (various types of fruit are good) and it will taste and be a lot healthier than a lot of the other things out there. As proudsub mentioned, most kashi foods are good for you as well (their bars are one of the better ones out there... but I can speak from expereience and tell you that not all of them rate high on taste.)

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 1:25:36 AM

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instead of egg beaters, i would go for regular eggs. they have very few carbs and a lot of protein, and as much fat as protein. since a relatively balanced diet has mostly carbs and a balance of fat and protein, they're a good food to have...especially if you don't get a lot of protein in your diet elsewhere (i don't). and they taste better, and can be scrambled with veggies and such.

oatmeal is a good breakfast option. making it yourself would be the best way, but prepackaged isn't going to kill you, either, and it ranks far above a few of the other items on the list. you might consider, if you're having a hard time incorporating all the nutrients you need, eating something like a luna bar or powerbar in the morning. as someone else mentioned, making the muffins yourself is the best idea. usually prepackaged muffins are way too high in sugar. also, someone else mentioned getting fresh juices instead of "juice drinks." even most regular juices have way too much sugar and preservatives. if you are near any organic food stores or your grocery has an organic section, try to buy organic juices, as they're much healthier and have a lot less of the icky stuff that makes mainstream "juices" bad for you.

wheat is always better. whole wheat bread, whole wheat pasta (i prefer angel hair because the taste isn't as overwhelming as with other kinds, like rotini), etc. brown rice instead of potatoes (brown rice has more flavor anyway). things like that.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 10:09:41 AM

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we, generally, are given little (or no!) good information (in our schooling and upbringing!) about diet and nutrition! too often, our diets and eating habits are formed and learned by modeling after what we're raised with... or what we're led to believe by faddists and opportunists looking to sell products. all too often, we learn to eat unhealthy foods that are sorely lacking in essential nutrients... and rich in empty calories.

Dr. Roy Walford was a medical doctor who dedicated a long and illustrious career to researching nutrition and essential dietary requirements in pursuit of understanding and defining how we can remain healthy and live longer.

check out www.walford.com

go to the library and look up a couple of his books:
The 120 Year Diet
and
The Anti-Aging Plan (i think is the title!)

He defined the "CRON Diet."
CRON stands for calorie reduction, optimal nutrition.

being healthy and attaining an optimal weight is all about minimizing empty (nutritionally deficit) calories and optimizing essential nutrients.

by learning more about nutrition and essential requirements and understanding calorie habits and addictions, one can better learn to develop healthful diets.

Roy Walford represents pure science: no hype, no gimmicks, plain and honest truth.

old habits die hard! good health (mental and physical!) and an optimal weight are difficult to achieve, though possible... through a balanced and nutritious diet!

best wishes.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 10:19:00 AM

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Ja, didn't this fuckin' guy tip over? Must be pretty nutritious for the worms and grubs out there in the boneyard where he is at.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 10:40:19 AM

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he was born in 1924 and died in 2004 so that makes him 80. He wrote a book on living to 120 from this diet. 33% out of round is statistically significant in the cabbage patch I grew up in.

My father made 87 years by smoking, drinking and swearing.

This is not to say that he does not have some valid ideas, but it is not the panacea of life.

Ron

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 12:08:38 PM

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I didn't find out until I was diagnosed with prediabetes how much sugar there is in almost everything. Fruit juices are loaded with sugar. Ice cream OMG is loaded with sugar, my fav food, wahhhh

Doctors arent always so helpful in the meal planning department. Carbs you have to watch too with diabetes. I found this site to be very helpful in meal planning:
http://www.diabetes.org/nutrition-and-recipes/nutrition/overview.jsp

They have lots of information as well as some darned good recipes.

Good luck, I understand what your going through.

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 1:08:35 PM

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I've found that the less processed a food is, the more likely it is to fit in to this kind of diet. When I was going through this (like it ever stops lol) I learned to make my own bread, gradually incorporating more whole-grain flour, etc., adding no sugar, and using only oils like olive, canola, peanut, etc. (sparingly). I also began to make vegetable soups (with homemade stock so I could skim the fat and cut down on salt), salads, including fruit salads, from scratch....Just, the more of my food I could make from scratch, the better it seemed to be nutritionally. And when I'd put time in on it, that made it all the more attractive to eat.

Convenience foods that are good for you include nonfat yogurt (I mix flavored kinds one-to-one with plain, to cut the sugar, and sometimes add nonfat cottage cheese to the mix), whole wheat pretzels, cereals such as cheerios, Chex, and others with little fat and sugar, etc. It's a great time of year to grill chicken and turkey, and you can remove the skin before or after cooking to reduce the fat content. You might even invest in a fish basket for the grill to grill filets and also vegetables (like green or red peppers).

There really is a whole new world of really really good foods out there -- tabouli salad mixed with cottage cheese, fresh tomatoes, chickpeas is one of my VERY favorites at this time of year! -- that I envy you the chance to discover. Have some fun!

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RE: Are any of these foods healthy for dieters? - 6/22/2006 1:14:50 PM

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Odd thing is , these are all what you buy on those meal plans where you're posta be loosing weight by eating healthy choices in which. you get food for the month

With those plans the only advantage is low calories -- and someone else counting them for you. If they say those foods are healthy, that's ONLY in comparison to other things you might choose, such as doughnuts, etc.

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