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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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Ewwww . . . just how do they accomplish that?

How about teaching the Civil War without talking about Lincoln.
I had a co-worker with a 4 year degree who upon reading the 2nd admendment commented "the Constitution can't say that".
Another co-worker with a degree from a different school was irate because I left the phrase "wall of seperation between church and state" out of the 1st.

You think it is widespread in public school curricula to ignore Lincoln?

How do you generalize your friend's ignorance about the 2nd Amendment to "Public schools cultivate ignorance?" Seems to me I hear a lot of people more or less quoting the 2nd.

I look at the First Amendment from time to time and I have never seen the phrase "wall of seperation between church and state." Where do you see it?

You don't support your accusation very well. Sorry.

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I think what he is saying is that phrase is not in there and his friend thought it was. Thus his friend's ignorance

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You think it is widespread in public school curricula to ignore Lincoln?

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How do you generalize your friend's ignorance about the 2nd Amendment to "Public schools cultivate ignorance?" Seems to me I hear a lot of people more or less quoting the 2nd.

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I look at the First Amendment from time to time and I have never seen the phrase "wall of seperation between church and state." Where do you see it?

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You don't support your accusation very well. Sorry.

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nope, Bama, he's right - the word wall is not in there.

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nope, Bama, he's right - the word wall is not in there.

Thats what I said read my statement , not the reply.
He insisted it was and critisized me for not putting it in.
It comes from a letter written by Jefferson over 2 decades after the fact.

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We want to make schools better but just throwing money at them, some of the best funded schools do the worst jobs.

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Evolution is a prime example among huderds. A defunct theory that had been disproven for decades and yet they still push this nonsense.

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When the public school sytem was first devised, it had a set criteria that it was to meet and evaluated after 25 years.
It has NEVER met even that intial required criteria and yet we keep wasting billions of dollars on it to help an insane liberal cause.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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ORIGINAL: BamaD

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ORIGINAL: tsatske

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Nope, Bama, he's right - the word wall is not in there.

Thats what I said read my statement , not the reply.
He insisted it was and critisized me for not putting it in.
It comes from a letter written by Jefferson over 2 decades after the fact.

You are right. I misread. Mea culpa.

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Which public school system are you referring to? There are fifty different state systems. Some states were still territories when the first public schools were constructed.

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We can thank Bush for all that "teaching to the test" nonsense

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BTW, my son was encouraged to drop out of high school; his reading skills and test scores were bringing the schools overall scores down. 3 years later he was diagnosed with dyslexia and after some therapy was able to teach himself to read enough to pass the GED after 3 weeks in classes.

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ORIGINAL: erieangel
We can thank Bush for all that "teaching to the test" nonsense.
BTW, my son was encouraged to drop out of high school; his reading skills and test scores were bringing the schools overall scores down. 3 years later he was diagnosed with dyslexia and after some therapy was able to teach himself to read enough to pass the GED after 3 weeks in classes.
My niece was also encouraged to drop out of high school for the same low test score reasons. She refused.

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Which public school system are you referring to? There are fifty different state systems. Some states were still territories when the first public schools were constructed.

The best example is as always D C. they spend the most money on a systemwhere their billboards (for the school system) have misspelled words )not as a joke)

There are good public school systems.

We have three within 25 miles of me.

All have about the same funding.

One is very good.

One forgot that Lincoln was envolved in the Civil War and in some classes had socialized grading (everybody got the same grade regardless of performance)

The other is really bad.

The difference isn't funding, it is management.

It is management we need to fix.