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Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 12:29:00 AM   
puella


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Status: offline 		To all you Dommes (and I must say it is predominantly the female dominant and not the male) who keep sending out requests to help you ‘train’ your submissives… wtf??? And, please fucking stop.

It has been happening a lot lately. I get these emails from the Dommes themselves and from their poor clueless ‘subs’ asking if I would like to ‘take part’ or ‘help’ in their training by humiliating them or blackmailing them or some other stupid ass bullshit.

Firstly... I am submissive, not YOUR submissive (thank heaven) so what the fuck do you think I am going to do or get out of taking over what should be YOUR role in a D/s relationship?

Secondly… how the hell do you manage to brainwash these stupid, unsuspecting douche bags into believing that you are actually their dominant? Do they really think that you farming out their ‘submissiveness’ constitutes anything even resembling domination? And I have a real problem with equating being willing to be treated like a half-wit trample pad as submission. What is this kind of mentality really doing to the perception of actual working, loving and HEALTHY D/s relationships? What is it doing to the core of the ‘community’ (another phrase I generally have a bit of trouble with but at this hour am unable to come up with a better alternative at this hour)?

And thirdly, and most importantly…what the hell kind of ‘Domme’ foists off the training of her submissive to a perfect stranger who has no knowledge of either of you, or what is best for your submissive, and who is not even a dominant? What on earth makes you think you are in a position to take control of another human when you are incapable of meeting the most fundamental parts of a the D in a D/s relationship?

If you cannot dominate your fucking ATM slave, why the hell would I do it for you for free?


< Message edited by puella -- 4/27/2013 12:31:59 AM >

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 12:48:39 AM   
myotherself


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Status: offline 		eeeermmm...you know this is extremely unlikely to be from a Domme, right?

It's usually from guys hoping to persuade some random woman to provide them with a bit of online fun or other wankfodder. They'll pretend to be whoever they need to be to get what they want.

There's no reason to get stressed about it. It happens ALL the time - I got one yesterday from a 'Domme' who sent the same cut-and-paste message to me about 4 months ago.

Just report as spam, block, hide and move on.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 1:22:14 AM   
BlkTallFullfig


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Status: offline 		You puella dear, have not gotten the 411, warning you that these emails are usually from men who want wank fodder, or to get to you, preferably by email, or webcam instructions.

No self respect domme would ever come begging for help to train her boy for her. How can anyone train a man to be my servant?
Anyway, cute rant, though hardly original.
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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 3:06:43 AM   
lizi


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Status: offline 		Lol, I used to get this type of message all the time. If you pay attention, you'll see that some "Dommes" are repeat offenders and send out the same type of message time after time. Whenever I get one I assume the sender is male and trying to get a freebie from me. My response is to send a message to the "Domme," telling him that his ploy isn't fooling me, and to go fuck off. If it's a repeat offender I ask him why he's still trying the SOS rather than getting out into the community.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 5:42:20 AM   
DarkSteven


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Status: offline 		Hello, gorgeous girl with Latin name!

I agree with the others. There are no Dommes. Just do-me sub men who've discovered that Dominant women don't take just anyone, so they're trying a new tack. Expect them back in a month or two claiming they're now Dominants.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 6:04:26 AM   
LadyPact


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Status: offline 		Yep, it's an old trick and not even a very original one. Sub male creates a female D profile thinking it will fool some woman into topping him.

I have to admit, I'm not all that nice when I get messages of this type. I'm not big on having My intelligence insulted, so I reply in kind. Usually something to the tune of "if you are honestly so incompetent that you can't deal with your own male submissive, his choice alone shows that his aptitude is lacking and he's not prepared to deal with a Dominant like Me".

I never hear from the person again.


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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 6:12:51 AM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		This isn't your first post here, so I'm curious why you think that the people you are trying to reach would be on the boards. You've been on this site for quite a while. I would think you would have figured this out by now.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 9:59:03 AM   
SoulAlloy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

This isn't your first post here, so I'm curious why you think that the people you are trying to reach would be on the boards. You've been on this site for quite a while. I would think you would have figured this out by now.


The straw that broke the camel's back springs to mind

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 12:55:12 PM   
puella


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Status: offline 		Indeed, SoulAlloy, indeed!

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 6:25:43 PM   
seekingOwnertoo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: myotherself

eeeermmm...you know this is extremely unlikely to be from a Domme, right?

It's usually from guys hoping to persuade some random woman to provide them with a bit of online fun or other wankfodder. They'll pretend to be whoever they need to be to get what they want.




This comment is RIGHT on the money ... just like the "Dommes" who want to get to know you better off line ... and in the first 3 minutes of chatting, ask if you have a credit card ... then ...

What are the numbers! ROFL

Just ignore, block and move on.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 6:32:33 PM   
seekingOwnertoo


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quote:

ORIGINAL: puella

Indeed, SoulAlloy, indeed!



But they are NOT Dommes .... that IS the point!

Likely eastern europeans looking to rob You blind .. in some way shape or form.



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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/27/2013 11:26:02 PM   
SoulAlloy


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Status: offline 		Regardless, not all will jump to the conclusion they are fakes, wank merchants etc - just because one has been a member for a while doesn't mean they are automatically jaded, or do we have any understanding how realistic the profiles were.

The "point" I suspect is now understood. Complaining that they should know better already is not the point, particularly if they haven't raised the issue themselves before. It's certainly been a while since I saw a topic on this

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/28/2013 11:26:47 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		So, OP, you decided to come into the forums, where no one has done any such thing and have a rant at people that have had nothing to do with your "issue".



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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/28/2013 3:56:06 PM   
LadyPact


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SoulAlloy
It's certainly been a while since I saw a topic on this
I agree that it has been a while. I tend to feel bad when submissive women get these kinds of messages. While there definitely are submissive women out there who top and some women who list as submissive because that is their relationship role even though they do switch, I tend to see these kinds of emails as unnecessary garbage. I have to wonder if guys think if they blast everybody, that sooner or later, somebody will fall for it.

The odds that there really is a living, breathing female when random guy comes along and posts "my Mistress wants me to facilitate this," I tend to be rather suspect. Particularly in the case of the guys who want their first 'forced bi' experience and the Mistress is never in sight. I do tell people who post that particular thought/question that the female in question is always going to be the more successful person in finding that scenario. Maybe that's a similar line of thinking when creating those red screen names.



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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/28/2013 5:44:57 PM   
SeverinVim


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Status: offline 		One thing that really bothers me about the conceit of "domination" in this context is the idea that, somehow, you can "dominate" people without hardly even knowing them. I don't understand the desire to plunge into things like that, at all. It makes no sense to me. I understand that this is an "alternative" Web site, but isn't there a better, slower, more sane way of doing things?

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/28/2013 7:47:05 PM   
DarkSteven


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SeverinVim

One thing that really bothers me about the conceit of "domination" in this context is the idea that, somehow, you can "dominate" people without hardly even knowing them. I don't understand the desire to plunge into things like that, at all. It makes no sense to me. I understand that this is an "alternative" Web site, but isn't there a better, slower, more sane way of doing things?


Sorry you think that's the norm. It makes no sense because:

1. I can't Dominate someone until I know how they roll. That's like operating machinery without knowing what the buttons do.
2. I have no idea how sane or compatible someone is right off the bat. I'm not going to think of Dominating until I have some idea it'll work.
3. If one person were to claim that I tried to Dominate her right away, it would hurt my reputation. My reputation means a lot to me.




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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/29/2013 12:18:52 AM   
LadyPact


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SeverinVim
One thing that really bothers me about the conceit of "domination" in this context is the idea that, somehow, you can "dominate" people without hardly even knowing them. I don't understand the desire to plunge into things like that, at all. It makes no sense to me. I understand that this is an "alternative" Web site, but isn't there a better, slower, more sane way of doing things?
I have a question in reply and then maybe I can help with yours.

Did you happen to put in the word "conceit" in the post when you had intended the word "concept" or did you literally mean the word conceit, as in thinking too much of one's self?

Your post is really one of the reasons why I prefer the term topping for do-er and do-ee situations, even if whatever the participants are doing has the illusion of control of one person over the other. When I write here or have these kinds of conversations in the community, I pretty much stick to the terms top and bottom for any kind of casual play or in situations where I know there isn't a dynamic present.

Sure, there's a better way for you if I'm getting the right impression of what you are saying for yourself in your question. You might not be the kind of person who wants to engage in casual play and be interested only in participating in certain activities with those you know very well and who you trust. Nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of people who only play within the context of a relationship.



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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/29/2013 1:55:07 AM   
CynthiaWVirginia


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Status: offline 		puella, I got three this past week, lol. I agree with the others that these are just guys making Domme profiles to get gullible females to "help" them through a wank session.

I'm not even nice enough to respond I just hit the delete and report as spam button.

Have you gotten the copy and paste from some frat hazing thing, where the "boy" has to be someone's online slave for a weekend? LOL. Or the "do u like using sounds?" (I didn't answer fast enough and he sent a second note calling me all kinds of bitches, lol.)

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/29/2013 3:18:03 AM   
FrostedFlake


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Status: offline 		Never a wank merchant around when you need one.

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RE: Train your slave???? - 4/29/2013 7:38:21 PM   
cloudboy


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That's the best thing about being a malesub, no one ever writes to us for advice. In general women don't even respond to our private messages. Overall we go through life without any unwanted attention, stupid questions, or creepy solicitations.

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