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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 6:02:12 AM   
thishereboi


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ORIGINAL: czarski

Not seeking vanilla date. Seeking to separate to financial dommes from...non-financial. And presently I need to open a dozen "financial" profile to find one not explicitly requesting money.



Oh you poor little thing. That must really suck. Now I know you were on the other thread where people kept telling the op to get his ass off the computer and go out into the real world and meet people. Have you tried that yet? Maybe try volunteering at a few things. Show the women there that you truly want to serve. Of course if flipping through profiles is too much work for you, I don't know how you will handle setting up play stations and cleaning up after people but it does work. Your choice. Stay here and bitch or go out and play.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 6:12:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir

How hard is it to hit the hide button when you don't want to see a profile again? It takes a millisecond and then it will never show up in your searches again. To me, that IS lazy, and as a fellow sub, laziness is not a quality that most dominants are looking for.



How hard would it be to install a button that not only hid the profile but would generate a report for "findom(m)ery" (Yes, I made up my own word)? People could hide the profiles and help "police" the site for the moderators. I know I report profiles that I find that are in violation, constantly.

Again, if people are using the site to make money, why should they be able to do so for free? I LOVE the fact that this is a free site and I LOVE the fact that the staff works hard and the owners spend money to pay for bandwidth. Why not do something to help reduce those burdens on the people that are so kind to us?



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Michael



They already have that. It's on the list when you go to report a profile under scammers.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 11:49:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: youdneverknowit

I don't think my irritation at findommery is as much about profile sifting (time-wasting) as it is about not recognizing things for what they are. It's like a twisted form of charity.

I will subject myself in the following admission to anyone who wants to sarcastically call me noble or whatever...

I make a pretty nice living, and I happen to be the kind of person that is inclined toward helping those who are less fortunate, thus a significant amount of my income is directed at such folks. I've never understood where this came from and why because no one in my family was this way, it just is so for me.

I guess I'm put off by a 'kink' that makes a charity contribution some sort of sexual fetish. Am I judging it? Yes. Do I care that I'm closed-minded about it? Not really. It's my opinion.

Someone will likely find some flaw in my reasoning, and make an analogy about it. Go ahead, but I don't really care. These are my thoughts on it, and likely, they will not change.

I've never once felt the same way about pro-dommes for some reason, and I've never had the desire to visit one.



Charity? Less fortunate? Again, I must be doing this fin domme stuff all wrong.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 4:14:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: youdneverknowit

I don't think my irritation at findommery is as much about profile sifting (time-wasting) as it is about not recognizing things for what they are. It's like a twisted form of charity.

I will subject myself in the following admission to anyone who wants to sarcastically call me noble or whatever...

I make a pretty nice living, and I happen to be the kind of person that is inclined toward helping those who are less fortunate, thus a significant amount of my income is directed at such folks. I've never understood where this came from and why because no one in my family was this way, it just is so for me.

I guess I'm put off by a 'kink' that makes a charity contribution some sort of sexual fetish. Am I judging it? Yes. Do I care that I'm closed-minded about it? Not really. It's my opinion.

Someone will likely find some flaw in my reasoning, and make an analogy about it. Go ahead, but I don't really care. These are my thoughts on it, and likely, they will not change.

I've never once felt the same way about pro-dommes for some reason, and I've never had the desire to visit one.


To me there is little distinction between a pro domme and a financial domme. I think the latter is simply a subset of the former. It's a business transaction. You pay a pro domme and she beats you with a flogger. You pay a financial domme and have whatever feeling or satisfaction you derive from that activity. People make sexual fetishes out of just about anything you can imagine. If there were not a market for financial dommes they would not exist, same as pro dommes or plumbers or dog walkers. It's a simple business transaction.


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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 4:29:37 PM   
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This is an excellent idea! ProDommes and Findoms should be held distinct from scammers. And users ought to be able to flag other accounts as Pro/Fin. Once the mods verify a profile as Pro/Fin (anything involving money that isn't a scammer/spammer), it ought to be permanent flag on the account (not editable by the user).

The biggest complaint I hear about FL is that the signal-to-noise ratio is so low due to all the spam and play-for-pay schemes. (which can be valid, just let the lifestyles filter y'all out, and the paying ones find you faster.)

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 5:00:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PuppetSeduction

This is an excellent idea! ProDommes and Findoms should be held distinct from scammers. And users ought to be able to flag other accounts as Pro/Fin. Once the mods verify a profile as Pro/Fin (anything involving money that isn't a scammer/spammer), it ought to be permanent flag on the account (not editable by the user).


The mods on this site are volunteers and they're stretched very thin. Doing that would quadruple their work load.


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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 5:29:17 PM   
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~FRing it~

We just honestly cannot expect others to do our work or us. Fin domination not your thing? Cool, no problem. It's pretty simple to pick out key words in the profile that indicate it and you have things right now at your disposal to take care of business. Back buttons on browsers are there for a reason. Same thing with hiding profiles if its not what you are looking for. Easy peasy. It might be a little more work on your part, but nothing good comes easy.

There is a shit ton of crap I see on the other side that Im not a fan of, but Id much rather just use the tools provided by the site to tailor my experience to my tastes.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 5:45:42 PM   
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@Osidegirl I'd be happy to volunteer my time as a mod. I bet a lot of people would. How does one go about becoming one?

@SeekingTrinity I do not understand why you would say that? It's technically trivial to implement, and would vastly improve the user experience. It's not an "entitlement" thing, it's a very plausible suggestion for improvement.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 5:59:32 PM   
SeekingTrinity


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If you can't understand what I've said, there isn't much I can do to help you

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/16/2013 6:14:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PuppetSeduction
It's technically trivial to implement
No, it's not. You're looking at a little tiny piece of what it would effect.

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and would vastly improve the user experience.
It wouldn't improve my experience.

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It's not an "entitlement" thing, it's a very plausible suggestion for improvement.
And it's one that the owners of the site have already stated that they don't want.

This is a privately owned website that you are allowed to access for free.


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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/17/2013 4:19:30 AM   
TNDommeK


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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


quote:

ORIGINAL: PuppetSeduction

This is an excellent idea! ProDommes and Findoms should be held distinct from scammers. And users ought to be able to flag other accounts as Pro/Fin. Once the mods verify a profile as Pro/Fin (anything involving money that isn't a scammer/spammer), it ought to be permanent flag on the account (not editable by the user).


The mods on this site are volunteers and they're stretched very thin. Doing that would quadruple their work load.



Not only this but I'm sure they expect you to be a big boy and use the hide button the site provides.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/18/2013 10:59:10 AM   
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I thought I'd coined the phrase 'findommery'? I could be wrong though.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/18/2013 11:09:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: PuppetSeduction
@Osidegirl I'd be happy to volunteer my time as a mod. I bet a lot of people would. How does one go about becoming one?
You talk to VideoAdminAlpha about volunteering your time. However, as Alpha has said repeatedly on threads, the Mods don't get to change the site from what the owners want. In other words, your personal agenda can't be implemented rather than what is laid out in ToS and forum guidelines.

ETA - I have to get ready to leave for a munch but if you have a look through the "Is financial Domination a legitimate kink" thread, there are a couple of comments from Alpha about the site's policy of not distinguishing any kink as different, more, or less than any other kink on the site.



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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/18/2013 11:38:10 AM   
MasterCaneman


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: PuppetSeduction
@Osidegirl I'd be happy to volunteer my time as a mod. I bet a lot of people would. How does one go about becoming one?
You talk to VideoAdminAlpha about volunteering your time. However, as Alpha has said repeatedly on threads, the Mods don't get to change the site from what the owners want. In other words, your personal agenda can't be implemented rather than what is laid out in ToS and forum guidelines.

ETA - I have to get ready to leave for a munch but if you have a look through the "Is financial Domination a legitimate kink" thread, there are a couple of comments from Alpha about the site's policy of not distinguishing any kink as different, more, or less than any other kink on the site.




As I've said before, I was a moderator on another forum, and the highlighted reason was why I was asked to become one. I can't say how CM handles how they select their mods, but I had all my posts reviewed, and was quizzed by the other mods as to how I'd deal with problems. The owner of the forum had gotten it as part of a package deal with his website, and used it to drive his online business. Anything that interfered with that was regulated/banned/removed as soon as possible.

Another point I want to make is this. The goal is eyeballs on the ads. Drama draws eyeballs, thus, if you permit drama, you get more eyeballs on ads. As simple as that. Unfortunately for you, your displeasure is good for the bottom line, and the site operators have provided all the tools you need to avoid that which displeases you already. They are under no obligation to go any further, especially on a free service like this.

You want more? Bust out your card and subscribe to a site that has paid staff to ensure you get what you desire. I don't know what else to tell you.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/19/2013 9:27:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: czarski

apparently no one gets me. I am NOT complaining about findom, I am suggesting to separate it from realdom. Yes, most findommes will check the YES box - they are openly declaring their financial interest in their profile, but I still need to OPEN and at least SCAN those profiles, which devours most of my time on this site.





Fast reply...

MOST fin dom/mes do separate themselves from those that do not practice financial domination and do so clearly in their profiles.

Now if you are to damn lazy to READ their profiles, that is on you not them.

How is having to READ a profile to find out if someone is a financial dom/me any different than having to read to see if someone eats meat if you are a vegetarian or if they are poly while you are mono?



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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 5/19/2013 10:53:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw


MOST fin dom/mes do separate themselves from those that do not practice financial domination and do so clearly in their profiles.




Be creative! Search for them using the keyword search for whatever distance parameter that suits and hide them all at the same time. Repeat as necessary with whatever words that annoy you. lol

However don't be surprised that hiding those profiles does not reveal a secret cache of lifestyle Dommes.

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RE: Fine-tuning the site to separate Fin from non-Fin - 8/12/2013 3:00:31 PM   
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If you are very short on time and can't be bothered, you might wish to advertise your specific needs on your local craigslist or kink circular. That way the diversity seen on a large site like this won't get you down.

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