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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 8:59:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		My guess is (RE: the sex toys) is that the donator either lied flat out about what was in the crate or there was a communications breakdown as to what the load was. Most commercial donors her in the US are conscientious about what they send, and try to honor the requests as best as possible. But there are too many who see this as a means to get out from under a bad business decision and free up some warehouse space quickly.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 12:35:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		No, there is no requirement that the charity sign off on donations. Typically if you send cash, most people write "donation" or "charity" or the like in the memo line. We have bins around locally for clothes, there is no way to get a receipt.

I'm with MC on how the sex toys got sent. Some kind of screw up.

I'm familiar with the Christmas in a shoe box drives. I don't participate. My church ran one a couple years ago (maybe every year, I didn't pay attention). Anyway, there are many local people who are unable to afford gifts for their children, food for their families, etc., even a high number in the congregation. The church doesn't do anything for those people except preach to them.

We have a local drive where you "adopt" a family for Christmas. These are local families in need.

I understand these children overseas have nothing, but there are many in our own communities with nothing as well. For me, that's part of "charity begins at home."

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 1:54:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'd love to do an adopt a family, I've never found anywhere that does it locally though. We have participated in local projects providing winter coats and shoes to kids though.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 2:46:25 PM   
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Seriously, what was going through people's heads to send sex toys? At least when people send a ton of useless clothing you can see why they might think they are being helpful.


Tax deductions.

If you're a company owner stuck with a truckload full off unsellable junk, and you donate it, not only do you now not have to pay to get ride of it (the aid organization will have to figure that out for you) you can also deduct their price at full value as a charitable donation, whereas otherwise you'd have taken nothing but a pure loss.


Wouldn't it be nice if a charity could refuse it and the donor would have to pay for handling costs! I'm only thinking of the frivolous stuff that becomes a burden to the charity.


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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 4:45:16 PM   
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Seriously, what was going through people's heads to send sex toys? At least when people send a ton of useless clothing you can see why they might think they are being helpful.


Tax deductions.

If you're a company owner stuck with a truckload full off unsellable junk, and you donate it, not only do you now not have to pay to get ride of it (the aid organization will have to figure that out for you) you can also deduct their price at full value as a charitable donation, whereas otherwise you'd have taken nothing but a pure loss.


Wouldn't it be nice if a charity could refuse it and the donor would have to pay for handling costs! I'm only thinking of the frivolous stuff that becomes a burden to the charity.



Then with the Haiti incident, the organization could have claimed the winter coats were "frivolous." Inappropriate, yes, but not frivolous.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 5:05:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I was only thinking of those cynical contributions that no reasonable person would think would be helpful.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 9:47:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only really questionable one is the sex toys. And frankly, I can see someone figuring that when a person loses everything, they lost those as well, and might like some new ones. At least I assume they were new ones. Now if that was a truckload of USED sex toys, well that's quite a different story...

I think I might be joining MC in the trip to hell, lol.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 9:50:32 PM   
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I'd love to do an adopt a family, I've never found anywhere that does it locally though. We have participated in local projects providing winter coats and shoes to kids though.


I don't remember which organizations run them, but I think it is pretty much schools and churches who know which families have a need.

That might be a very good project for you, actually. You could start an adopt a family program. Contact your equivalent of social services and see if they would mention to their clients and ask if they would like someone to adopt them for the holidays. Talk with schools about families who might be in need, etc.

Honestly, I think you are just the right kind of person to do it and I hope you give it some thought.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/24/2013 11:59:13 PM   
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The only really questionable one is the sex toys. And frankly, I can see someone figuring that when a person loses everything, they lost those as well, and might like some new ones. At least I assume they were new ones. Now if that was a truckload of USED sex toys, well that's quite a different story...

I think I might be joining MC in the trip to hell, lol.

It'll be nice having company on the ride down...

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/25/2013 1:35:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I agree. You seem like the fun sort. Just be warned, when I get there, I intend to take over.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/25/2013 5:08:39 AM   
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I'd love to do an adopt a family, I've never found anywhere that does it locally though. We have participated in local projects providing winter coats and shoes to kids though.


I don't remember which organizations run them, but I think it is pretty much schools and churches who know which families have a need.

That might be a very good project for you, actually. You could start an adopt a family program. Contact your equivalent of social services and see if they would mention to their clients and ask if they would like someone to adopt them for the holidays. Talk with schools about families who might be in need, etc.

Honestly, I think you are just the right kind of person to do it and I hope you give it some thought.



That's very kind of you to say.

I was actually wondering about doing something similar with the parents in the playschool groups we attend - families helping families sort of thing, but I need to do some serious research first.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/25/2013 11:00:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, but the holidays are still quite a few months away. You can do it. Be willing to expand a little beyond your play group. Perhaps add your church or talk to the local public school. They should be able to direct you to some poor families with kids there.

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RE: A Silver Lining? - 5/25/2013 11:05:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, I have just seen something that should help greatly. A local group here in NJ is looking to send stuff to Oklahoma. We received 2 full truck loads from them after Sandy, apparently. Anyway, this group wants to give back. They posted the information on a Facebook page. Since social media seems to be how we reach everyone these days. I left off the organization's name, but here is what they posted:

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Their trucks are leaving Monday morning. I am planning on delivering items on Sunday.
WE ARE ACCEPTING THE FOLLOWING DONATIONS ONLY!

First aid kids
First aid items
GAS cards
Storage totes
5 gallon buckets
Shovels
Work Gloves
Contractor bags
Battery powered radios w/batteries to go with them
Flashlights w/batteries to go with them
Baby wipes
Baby products (diapers, formula, etc.)
Personal hygiene items (toothbrushes, toothpaste, deodorant, etc.)
Pet food
Water
Gatorade
Individually wrapped snacks (purchased from store, not homemade)

*NO USED CLOTHING or BEDDING*
( there may be a later date to accept clothing and household items)


Perhaps that is a good way to let people know what NOT to donate.

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