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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 6:35:52 AM

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I was doing some research on that Dusky. The reviews I read were not good. Apparently, all the results come back positive for mold.

The reality with mold is that with over 1000 different strains, we always have mold in the air. Some strains are not dangerous at all, while as we know, others are very dangerous.

I had thought about contacting the health department to see if they might be able to direct me. I'm hesitant though because I don't want to cause trouble for this landlord if I don't have to. I'm concerned if I involve the town now, if the house tests positive for mold, they will send him "nasty grams" about the clean up. I would rather test and give him the opportunity just between us and not involve the health department if I don't have to, know what I mean?

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 3:07:57 PM

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When I was in my last clinical rotation, the PT there recommended increasing potassium and electrolytes to a patient that was having continual muscle cramps. Since those things are relatively benign, it wouldn't hurt to try them out.

Considering the heat wave we're going through, it wouldn't hurt to get some gatorade.
Well, it would hurt the taste buds but that's a different story.

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 3:26:18 PM

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I know there are many kinds of mold all around us.

The beauty of doing it the way I did, was in the lab's printout, it also specified how safe or dangerous the particular mold one sends in is.

If it comes out dangerous, then you have the paperwork to give to the landlord, which offers him the opportunity to do something about it without getting anyone else involved.

Does that sound as tho' it might help you?

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 4:32:04 PM

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I drink a LOT of water every day, so I don't get dehydrated. Also, because of my back injury, I'm not terribly active. I might pick up a couple of G2's the next time I go shopping. And then water them down, lol.

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 4:48:19 PM

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Ok, so I went to the doctor. Second visit much better than the first. Thought she would fall over at the sight of the list, lol. But when I explained to her that I understood we couldn't handle it all that day, she visibly relaxed.

So we talked about the mold possibility. She wants to do a CT of my sinuses first. Incidentally, I finished the antibiotic on Sunday, and guess what? YUP, there is another one starting already, so back on the clarithromycin. Well, at least this time we caught it earlier.

We talked about my blood sugar and triglycerides (both of which are not good). Looks like there is some Atkins in my future to knock it down quicker. I love good bread and potatoes. I make the best potato salad which for anyone not me, is really very healthy.

I need to find an endocrinologist to deal with the lump on my thyroid, although apparently my last blood test revealed LOW thyroid levels. Usually they are high. Can't wait to find up what the hell is up with that. Since my thyroid can be screwing with everything else, that needs to be a priority. Of course unless I can find an endocrinologist, I will be going to University Hospital and have to wait 2-3 months for an appointment.

She said that my diabetes could be the cause of the twitches and numbness, but this is me we are talking about. That would be too simple. Guess we will revisit after the additional blood work and CT scan are done.

All in all, a positive visit. At least we are going in some direction, even if at a snail's pace.

Oh and Dusky, I'm going to start with asking the landlord re-caulk the tub. I really like this landlord. He fixes things quickly, and is a nice guy. So if the problem can be resolved just by re-caulking the tub and not him spending a lot of money tearing the bathtub tiles down, that would be good. It also will kind of put him on "notice" that there are some issues. I looked today, and there really aren't any comparable rentals around. I do not want to have to move.

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 9:29:10 PM

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Well done! Hope you get all issues, home and health-wise resolved quickly.

Hey....any chance of getting your potato salad recipe? I'm a sucker for the good stuff.

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RE: Twitches - 5/31/2013 10:43:29 PM

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Sure. I'll put it down in the recipe section right now.

ETA: So I go to the Potato and Grains section and...it's already there!

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 9:40:31 AM

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Apparently, all the results come back positive for mold.

The reality with mold is that with over 1000 different strains, we always have mold in the air. Some strains are not dangerous at all, while as we know, others are very dangerous.

When my mother had mold testing done, they also did the outside air for comparison. I may be able to get you the exact numbers, but she knew she had a problem when the mold in certain areas of the house was exponentially higher than the outside air. Too bad you are not closer to me - I could walk in your bathroom and tell you instantly if you had a problem.

I don't recommend you do any remediation yourself - you are not healthy enough and it will make you sicker. Here's some very non alarmist info from the CDC, which I have reformatted for emphasis. You have mold behind the wall - all porous material must be removed.

...What should people to do if they determine they have Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) in their buildings or homes?

Mold growing in homes and buildings, whether it is Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra) or other molds, indicates that there is a problem with water or moisture. This is the first problem that needs to be addressed.

- Mold growth can be removed from hard surfaces with commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution of no more than 1 cup of bleach in 1 gallon of water.
- Mold in or under carpets typically requires that the carpets be removed.
- Once mold starts to grow in insulation or wallboard, the only way to deal with the problem is by removal and replacement.

We do not believe that one needs to take any different precautions with Stachybotrys chartarum (Stachybotrys atra), than with other molds. In areas where flooding has occurred, prompt drying out of materials and cleaning of walls and other flood-damaged items with commercial products, soap and water, or a bleach solution of no more than 1 cup of bleach in 1 gallon of water is necessary to prevent mold growth. Never mix bleach with ammonia or other household cleaners. If a home has been flooded, it also may be contaminated with sewage. (See: After a Hurricane or Flood: Cleanup of Flood Water) Moldy items should be removed from living areas.

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 4:19:08 PM

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LLady, can I be waaaaay out of line and suggest you start a thread called, "Ask a Twitch"

Sorry, couldn't help myself...it was just too easy!

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 4:30:00 PM

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LL, if your doctor agrees, you might try adding calcium, magnesium and a significant dose B-complex (make sure it has niacin or niacinimide) supplements to your diet for nerve-related discomforts. B-complex during the day, cal/mag at night.

These were very helpful to me for relief from nerve irritation/damage due to spinal injuries. A nice benefit of 500 mg of niacinimide was arthritis relief in my fingers. :-)

Good luck, hope you feel better soon!

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 9:06:30 PM

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kali,

I would hope if I were close enough for a visit, it would be a more interesting visit than you simply walking in my bathroom to see if I had mold issues!

Seriously, though, as I said, I actually have written (far too many) articles on mold damage and its effects on health, so I do know what I'm dealing with in terms of remediation.

I wouldn't be doing anything myself. But because my landlord is actually a good guy (unusual around here), I don't want to start off with the most extreme solution (even though I know this is likely necessary). I figure by having the handyman (my landlord actually lives in Florida), it serves the purpose of letting him know that there is a potential problem, and that I'm not being demanding and trying to get a new bathroom out of the deal. I don't think he would think the latter of me, but I want to maintain my good relationship with him.

If the recaulking doesn't keep the spores out of my air space (since even though they are microscopic, they can't get through a sealed wall), I know I will have to move on to the next step. When I speak with him, I will also point out that he needs to be concerned about the physical damage that the mold causes to the structure. Because even if it seals it away from me, it will continue to grow behind the wall and eat away at the wood framing. Mold is part animal and part plant and really does "eat" what it grows on to sustain itself.

Thanks for the info, although it was one of the sites I used to research my articles.

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 9:09:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Duskypearls

LLady, can I be waaaaay out of line and suggest you start a thread called, "Ask a Twitch"

Sorry, couldn't help myself...it was just too easy!

HA HA. Sadly, the twitches still haven't completely gone away, although they have been a bit less than when I first started this thread.

It is an exercise in patience for me, really. I have multiple issues that need to be dealt with, many of which (twitches included) could be connected. Naturally, I want them all fixed immediately, which I know is unrealistic, but I'm trying (somewhat successfully) to have the patience to go through everything one step at a time. It's nerve wracking. Oh wait, isn't that another kind of pun?

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 9:16:39 PM

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Using FR:

LL, if your doctor agrees, you might try adding calcium, magnesium and a significant dose B-complex (make sure it has niacin or niacinimide) supplements to your diet for nerve-related discomforts. B-complex during the day, cal/mag at night.

These were very helpful to me for relief from nerve irritation/damage due to spinal injuries. A nice benefit of 500 mg of niacinimide was arthritis relief in my fingers. :-)

Good luck, hope you feel better soon!

My magnesium and potassium levels are fine (they were on my last bloodwork). She has added calcium to the next test, along with re-checking my thyroid levels. Also B1 and B12 levels, something that looks like "Folate" (anyone care to confirm or give a possible translation? LOL), PTH, BMP and a couple other things I can't read at all. She has told me to start taking 5000IU of D3 a day (I do tend to have vitamin D deficiencies), try to spend more time in the sun (ha ha, I hate the hot weather) and take some probiotics.

Which brings up an interesting question. Other than Activia, how can I get more probiotics into my diet without pills? I take about 15 pills a day already (without the D3!), so I really would like to avoid more pills. I feel like each group of pills (morning and night) is almost a meal already.

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RE: Twitches - 6/1/2013 10:52:53 PM

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Any Yogurt with "live and active cultures" is a source of probiotics, as are both Kefir and Buttermilk.

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RE: Twitches - 6/2/2013 10:26:09 AM

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I know the Activia does, but she said I would need to eat 3-4 a day, and that is simply too much. That stuff is expensive!

I was hoping for some foods not liquids, but thanks.

I know pro-biotics are good for the digestive system, but she wasn't suggesting it for that, but I am not really sure why she was. Any information what else pro-biotics would do beyond the digestive system? I got the impression she was relating it to the sinus infections somehow.

As for the sinus infections, which are top of the list at the moment, I understand her taking a less direct approach, but it did feel as though she didn't want to accept that it could be from mold, which concerns me.

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RE: Twitches - 6/5/2013 1:06:07 PM

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I know the Activia does, but she said I would need to eat 3-4 a day, and that is simply too much. That stuff is expensive!

Greek (strained) yogurt contains tons of probiotics and double the protein of regular yogurt. Fage and Oikos are my favorites. If you have a costco handy, Fage is $4.79 for a quart. It's very mild and creamy-tasting though fat-free. Oikos tastes more like true sour cream to me. Hope this helps.

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RE: Twitches - 6/5/2013 6:59:52 PM

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Any yogurt which has "live and active cultures. should fit the bill.
Most of them do.

Personally, I like Chobani but tend to only buy it on sale.

ETA:
This is a really good product if you can find it.
Lots of probiotics but kind of expensive.
To that premium quality milk, we add 320 billion live and active probiotic cultures. That�s 32 times more probiotics than most kefirs! Our probiotics are clinically documented to boost digestive and immune system health and consist of healthy bacteria. You might say it�s a cooperative venture, just like Organic Valley itself!

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RE: Twitches - 6/5/2013 11:02:28 PM

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Thanks MDA and aJ.

I actually don't drink milk. It makes me throw up, lol.

I will check out the yogurts. I'm not a big fan of yogurt to begin with. I did notice some cottage cheese with "live active cultures." I debated buying it, but honestly, my cart was pretty seriously full and I was worried about going over my food budget for that shop (which I did do. Ooops!). I did buy a lot of healthy foods, and the only "junk" was Ritz crackers. I have a serious cracker addiction. It's really sad.

One thing I did learn during my grocery shopping. I was chatting with a woman about "healthy" foods and somehow my triglycerides came up. Now I have been struggling with that, and trying to find foods I would enjoy that would help. She said that carrots help to cleanse the liver and the liver is what creates/regulates triglycerides. I like carrots, so this was good news. Always buy the baby carrots for snacking. This time I also remembered to buy my favorite ginger dressing to go with them.

I did speak with my landlord, and we are going to re-caulk the tub and before the new caulk is put in, flood the crack with some bleach to try to kill the mold. We will see how that works. I'm hopeful.

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RE: Twitches - 6/6/2013 8:52:57 AM

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The yogurt and probiotics are because you're on the second round of antibiotics which are killing off the good flora in your digestive and excretory tract.

And chance someone in your building smokes and you're getting second hand smoke through the air vents? That's what causes my sinus infections, second and even third hand smoke.

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RE: Twitches - 6/6/2013 7:58:28 PM

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The yogurt and probiotics are because you're on the second round of antibiotics which are killing off the good flora in your digestive and excretory tract.

And chance someone in your building smokes and you're getting second hand smoke through the air vents? That's what causes my sinus infections, second and even third hand smoke.

Actually, no that is NOT why she was suggesting the probiotics at all. It was more about somehow clearing my system of whatever may be causing the infection.

I had c-diff last year, and EVERY time antibiotics are brought up, I initiate a discussion on the matter because I would honestly rather die of the infection than go through that every again. Yes, it is really that bad. Even after that infection was cleared up, the diarrhea sporadically continued for months. Not much embarrasses me, but shitting my pants in the grocery store definitely was the most embarrassing moment of my life.

My sinus infections are NOT caused by second hand smoke. Yes, I'm quite sure. Besides living in a single family residence, I also smoke and have since I was very young. I've had fewer sinus infections my entire life than I have in since March.

Personally, I'm pretty sure the mold is causing it, and I am working with my landlord on that. I'm also working with my doctor to confirm it. I don't really agree that getting a CT scan of my sinuses is a better way to start than doing some cultures for fungal infection, but I'm trying to be patient about her choices. After the CT scan, I will become more insistent on the cultures if the infections continue to occur with such frequency (well, continue at all).

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