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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 4:34:23 PM   
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A very ignorant warped view was stated, and I saw it a few times before, which I just had to address. If you seriously believe in your mind, that if someone has cheated, makes them a thieve, one is clearly delusional. A warped theory, that is so far in left field as much even more so then a cheater is closely compared to a pedophile.


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All are sins. Yet here you are, in your words, claiming one sin isnt equivalent to another.

I have already explained the "thief" situation.

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WHat a ridiculous thought I should show you remorse here. If I was to believe what you said, and practice it, then you as a previous cheater have fallen from grace, and have no hope. ANd for that I feel quite sorry for you.


Unlike you, I dont make excuses for what I did. I dont pass it off to others as being "acceptable" now because I begged my man to forgive me, or "God". Nor do I stick up for others who admit they also cheated.

Its like sticking up for a drug user and saying... its fine.. dont worry about it... "God" forgives you, you dont have to worry about anything else, because if "God" forgives you, no one else can say a word.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 4:36:15 PM   
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So you speak of God and covenants and commandments, but you do not believe in Christ? You use biblical terms, so you just pick and chose what parts you will decide suits your arguments, and ignor the rest? How very convenient and hypocritical.

Many of these terms are used in many different beliefs and religions - not just the one that you obviously believe in.
We use them in Paganism and Druidism - but neither of those belief systems have a holy book or 'bible' so they are not exclusively 'biblical'.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 6:06:58 PM   
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Chatter, there's this thing called the Old Testament that has zilch to do with Christ.


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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 7:40:41 PM   
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A very ignorant warped view was stated, and I saw it a few times before, which I just had to address. If you seriously believe in your mind, that if someone has cheated, makes them a thieve, one is clearly delusional. A warped theory, that is so far in left field as much even more so then a cheater is closely compared to a pedophile.


http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4472963

All are sins. Yet here you are, in your words, claiming one sin isnt equivalent to another.

I have already explained the "thief" situation.

quote:

WHat a ridiculous thought I should show you remorse here. If I was to believe what you said, and practice it, then you as a previous cheater have fallen from grace, and have no hope. ANd for that I feel quite sorry for you.


Unlike you, I dont make excuses for what I did. I dont pass it off to others as being "acceptable" now because I begged my man to forgive me, or "God". Nor do I stick up for others who admit they also cheated.

Its like sticking up for a drug user and saying... its fine.. dont worry about it... "God" forgives you, you dont have to worry about anything else, because if "God" forgives you, no one else can say a word.


Making excuses? Yes maam I had alot of things going on I have never discussed here, nor will I. But Im not making excuses for what I did, I own it, freely admit it. I also didnt beg anyone, which are making ass-umptions on. I decided to start over and keep my vows, to a man who loves me very much, and asked me to stay. He was willing to let me have a little side endeavor too if I so chose, but after much thought, I decided with help that was also wrong. If I couldnt stay married and stay within what I promised, I could not do it. So as I stand today, I am faithful.
THe way I believe sins are sins, but yes I do believe some are more mortifying then others. I never messed with a friends husband nor would I, I never saw a married man,nor would I steal from a friend, nor would I disgusting molest their children, or kill anyone, or beat up their dog.
ANd honey, I would stick up for a drug user, and tell them if they try things can be okay, I wouldnt beat them up about it, making them feel no hope. Now thats me, and thats how I work, and Im proud of it.
You work how ever you want, react how ever you want. I dont care, but I feel compelled to make a comment about something I dont feel is right, be damned sure I will be doing it.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 8:06:35 PM   
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ANd honey, I would stick up for a drug user, and tell them if they try things can be okay, I wouldnt beat them up about it, making them feel no hope. Now thats me, and thats how I work, and Im proud of it.


Well, darling, sweetheart, babydoll, sugarplum, sweetpea..... we all live in the real world, not your fantasy land. No one attempted to make her feel "no hope". She asked a question, she got honest, blunt responses. I dont sugar coat anything for anyone. Least of all over this topic.

Your stories keep changing, your "tale of woe" keeps evolving. I dont give a damn why you did what you did.... it doesnt matter why. I dont care that he forgave you, YOU never should have put him in that position to have to forgive you to begin with.

We all make mistakes. Making excuses for those mistakes is just ridiculous. Making excuses is trying to lighten the load. Making excuses is trying to shift some blame. Fuck that.

You claim to be a grown woman, own your mistakes without excuses.

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 6/23/2013 8:07:23 PM >


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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 8:08:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24


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Since you brought GOd into it, learn what the fruits are of a Christain, or practice what you preach on this forum. Kindness and understanding and love of others is on that list of fruits because many of your posts break covenants.


I said I believe in God, not that I am a Christian. I don't believe in Christ.

So as for me believing in God, no I haven't broken my Covenant with God because I have not broken his commandments.



So you speak of God and covenants and commandments, but you do not believe in Christ? You use biblical terms, so you just pick and chose what parts you will decide suits your arguments, and ignor the rest? How very convenient and hypocritical.


Congratulations. You just called the whole Jewish religion hypocritical.


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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 9:37:52 PM   
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Wrong Osidegirl! I didnt say one had to believe in Christ but I do. But if one doesnt live and believe of forgiveness, compassion, kindness, joy, love, its a shame. Its a shame to believe people negatively think, once a person makes a mistake they are never on the right path again. What a sad life.
Tazzygirl, you yourself admitting to cheating, and you say to me I never should have put him in the position? That would be correct, I will give you that, but since you did the same thing in your life, its unbelievable your that ignorant to make a statement like that. You put someone in that position, maybe you think you should pay for eternity and you will if you continue to think as you do.
"what tales of woe, am I telling?" THere isnt one, its a happy ending.
Obviously you are not happy, hopefully one day you will be.
Good night, and well wishes.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/23/2013 9:58:25 PM   
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Tazzygirl, you yourself admitting to cheating, and you say to me I never should have put him in the position? That would be correct, I will give you that, but since you did the same thing in your life, its unbelievable your that ignorant to make a statement like that. You put someone in that position, maybe you think you should pay for eternity and you will if you continue to think as you do.


Actually, I wasnt in a relationship, the man was. That doesnt negate my part in it, nor does that excuse my behavior. However, I have never cheated on someone I was in a relationship with.

And its always puzzled me, and maybe you can explain this.

How, as a submissive, can you cheat on someone you promised to love, honor and, possibly obey (keeping in mind that not all vows contain that word anymore)?

Maybe that is my own peculiar quirk.

Or is that just a lifestyle thing and it doesnt carry over into the vanilla world?

How do you feel about people lying to you?

See, I did cheat, because I slept with a man I knew was married. It takes two to tango.... cheating doesnt go away simply because one of you isnt in a relationship. But, I can say that I have never cheated while I was in a relationship.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 8:33:42 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

Wrong Osidegirl! I didnt say one had to believe in Christ but I do.


You're correct. You said:
quote:

So you speak of God and covenants and commandments, but you do not believe in Christ? You use biblical terms, so you just pick and chose what parts you will decide suits your arguments, and ignor the rest? How very convenient and hypocritical.


Which is exactly how Jews believe. They follow the Old Testament and don't believe that Christ is the Messiah.

And you labeled that behavior as hypocritical.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 9:25:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas
I see star has been here. Now there is an alpha submissive and you newbies should follow her examples as well as other successful submissives in the off forum world.


Yes, newbies, you should follow her example of airing all of her relationship dirty laundry on a forum:

http://www.collarchat.com/m_3742544/mpage_1/tm.htm



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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 12:22:14 PM   
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I think it's open to debate exactly who the "sub" in that relationship is

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 12:23:36 PM   
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Debate? smirks... there is no debate.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 12:32:31 PM   
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Making excuses? Yes maam I had alot of things going on I have never discussed here, nor will I. But Im not making excuses for what I did, I own it, freely admit it. I also didnt beg anyone, which are making ass-umptions on. I decided to start over and keep my vows, to a man who loves me very much, and asked me to stay. He was willing to let me have a little side endeavor too if I so chose, but after much thought, I decided with help that was also wrong. If I couldnt stay married and stay within what I promised, I could not do it. So as I stand today, I am faithful.
THe way I believe sins are sins, but yes I do believe some are more mortifying then others. I never messed with a friends husband nor would I, I never saw a married man,nor would I steal from a friend, nor would I disgusting molest their children, or kill anyone, or beat up their dog.
ANd honey, I would stick up for a drug user, and tell them if they try things can be okay, I wouldnt beat them up about it, making them feel no hope. Now thats me, and thats how I work, and Im proud of it.
You work how ever you want, react how ever you want. I dont care, but I feel compelled to make a comment about something I dont feel is right, be damned sure I will be doing it.


How can you have the above underlined statement as a reflection of the things you refuse to do because they are somehow beneath you, when you have cheated on your own husband...? He doesn't count but some hypothetical guy's wife does? Also, how can you continue to use the derogatory term 'marriage police' for those members who don't condone cheating when you fall into the category of holding up not cheating on someone with a wife as being a positive thing about yourself here...? It's also odd that you would deride stealing from a friend, who is your husband? Is he your friend? Did you not steal trust from him? People get on your case because you talk in circles and pretend to own your mistakes while still trying to talk your way out of them.

Also, in general, why are the people who feel cheating is sometimes an excusable and perhaps necessary fact of life throwing around a put down term like marriage police for those who don't hold the same values on that matter and think adultery is not generally (or ever) an excusable fact of life?

Just for the record, I tend to think that adultery is not excusable, I also feel that I don't know every story out there to make a blanket judgment call on the matter, so I try to keep my mind open. More often than not I think the excuses given for doing it are weak and self indulgent.

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 12:39:38 PM   
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Just for the record, I tend to think that adultery is not excusable, I also feel that I don't know every story out there to make a blanket judgment call on the matter, so I try to keep my mind open. More often than not I think the excuses given for doing it are weak and self indulgent.


This

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 12:42:20 PM   
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FR,

Some posts are no longer within the realm of "normal thread drift." Feel free to start a new thread on successful submissives secrets.


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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 2:58:43 PM   
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Chi's gonna spank ALL OF YOU!

*darts out of the room*

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 3:07:51 PM   
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Uh huh... I know when to stop



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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 3:28:26 PM   
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Chi's gonna spank ALL OF YOU!

*darts out of the room*

But she has such great legs!

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 5:39:26 PM   
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Okay , well I think Ill draw a line out of my circle talking and take it right off this thread permenantly. lol

I don't care what I say , someone is definitely gonna make it wrong in every way. Lets just put it this way, I was a moral cheater, I didnt bring other families into it. But heck I dont even cheat anymore, but guess what I cheated, admit, made my peace with it, my family has too. But its okay people in your believe system, I will be sure to burn in hell like the devil lying harlot I am. lol.

Hey for those you of you that might make it to heaven with your skirt tails on fire, dont be surprised if it isnt my smiling face you see opening the gate or one of the other immorals.

Have a lovely night oh Cm wisdom troops. ( directed at the elite the select few)

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RE: Dom is different - 6/24/2013 5:44:51 PM   
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My belief doesnt believe in a heaven or a hell.

You sure do a lot of assuming there.

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