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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/25/2013 11:23:33 PM   
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interesting, why was the doritos hurting you?
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found out it was from the Doritos that I was eating, so I cut out ALL corn chips. I only snack on regular chips now if I want something salty.




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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/27/2013 11:13:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did you try the tablespoon of vinegar or not ?

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/28/2013 8:14:53 PM   
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interesting, why was the doritos hurting you?
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found out it was from the Doritos that I was eating, so I cut out ALL corn chips. I only snack on regular chips now if I want something salty.






Doritos are full of fat, grease, spices, and everything else you can think of that is bad for you. Of course Doritos are going to cause heartburn.


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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/28/2013 8:58:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		I did not chew them good enough and the jagged edges cut into the tube. I make sure I chew these days even though I don't eat corn chips these days. Even the smell of them make me sick and I used to love nachos and frito pie.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/29/2013 7:19:29 PM   
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Did you try the tablespoon of vinegar or not ?

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/29/2013 7:52:33 PM   
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It's quieted down some now.
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Did you try the tablespoon of vinegar or not ?

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So does that mean you tried vinegar and it helped somewhat? I hope so! Glad you're feeling better.



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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/29/2013 8:51:34 PM   
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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 6/29/2013 9:52:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I tried the whole vinegar thing when I first started getting terrible heartburn. Didn't do a damn thing. Neither did anything else. I took every kind of over the counter pill and every home remedy a person can think of to no avail.

If you're the type of person who gets heartburn all the time then none of those remedies will help. There's more going on than just heartburn.


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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/1/2013 12:16:56 AM   
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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/1/2013 12:51:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		I had pain so bad I had trouble working.

Only thing that worked for me was Zantac 150mg twice a day for a month, nothing acidic, including fruit, tomatoes or juices, nothing spicy, nothing oily.

Havent had problems since and thats been 12 years.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/4/2013 2:43:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you have failed medical management for heartburn the next option is a surgical procedure called: Nissen Fundoplication. It involved wrapping a portion of your stomach around your esophagus, essentially creating tighter sphincter to limit the reflux of acids into your esophagus. Untreated reflux/heartburn is more than just a mere nuisance; it is a serious risk factor for Barrets Esophagus

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/4/2013 11:24:02 PM   
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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/5/2013 8:18:14 AM   
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They will always start with diet, meds and exercise, since, unfortunately for you, those are the most frequent causes. And most insurance companies wont pay for the more expensive tests until other measures are tried..


Yeah, a quick googling tells me an endoscopy costs around $2500. It's no wonder that they'd rather she try to lose weight, change her diet, and take something like Prilosec (all of which are fairly inexpensive and cost the insurance nothing), and see if that helps.

Which is definitely a kind of test.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/5/2013 8:27:45 AM   
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Oh, I know I over eat, I am under no delusion of that. In fact when I first started having weight issues I was eating 6 plates of food every day, trying to keep the other girls in the group home from getting in trouble for not eating their meal.


But, for the majority of the time, I do not over eat, some days I don't eat at all, but when I do eat it's almost all junk, or totally junk or it's healthy food but not in the way it's being paired, like 3 starches and no protein, and I do not do any exercise. So for her to insist I over eat all the time was annoying, because she's fully aware that for large stretches of time I don't eat a bite of food, and I am not exaggerating.


My understanding is that your body produces acid when it expects that you're going to eat, so even if you don't eat, you can still get heartburn. It's basically the same reason as why your stomach rumbles when you're hungry. If your body is used to having to digest "almost all junk" at lunchtime, then it's going to produce acid at lunchtime to deal with that whether or not you actually ate anything.

Also, how are your stress levels and general emotional health? I used to have a lot of problems with heartburn, despite being a healthy weight and eating relatively healthy, and it was because of stress. Taking Prilosec for a month helped, but just getting out of the stressful situation was more helpful.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/15/2013 8:49:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		general stress and stuff, great, not very stressed at all, but emotional health is kind of crap. I mean 99,9 percent of the time i am very happy, but I don't get a lot of human interaction and i crave that and i never can seem to make friends which sucks, and makes me sad a lot.
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Also, how are your stress levels and general emotional health? I used to have a lot of problems with heartburn, despite being a healthy weight and eating relatively healthy, and it was because of stress. Taking Prilosec for a month helped, but just getting out of the stressful situation was more helpful.



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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/19/2013 9:45:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		There aren't really many tests other than an endoscope to check for issues, and others are probably correct,insurance won't pay for it until you eliminate other things. Heartburn can be caused by many things, it can be caused by stress, by foods triggering an acid rush, it can be caused by the cells in the stomach that secrete the acid in effect going nuts....

If you are well overweight, it is a likely cause, both from possibly eating the wrong foods, like junk food, and also the pressure on the stomach and esophogas. You can treat the symptoms with acid reducers like pepsid. but that is all it is doing.

My other concern is have they checked out your heart? Acid indigestion can be a sign of impending heart problems, which if you are inactive and obese and not eating well is a concern. This is especially true with women, whose heart symptoms can be hidden, they don't show the same things men do necessarily, like angina.

BTW, irregular eating is bad news with indigestion, you might think not eating would cause the problem to go away, but it can get worse on an empty stomach. At the very least, watch what you eat and eat regularly, a number of small meals is a great suggestion, going on binge and bust cycles or allowing yourself to get really empty is not a great idea.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/24/2013 8:10:31 PM   
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I am on Nexium which worked for a few months but even now the Nexium is starting to wear off.

My gastroenterologist started me on the recommended dose, but after a few weeks he told me to start backing off. One every other day at first, then one every three days, and finally one every four days. Some gastroenterologists suggest a different scheme, but you get the idea. Don't take proton pump inhibitors continuously. Here's why:

http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2002/F/20022672.html

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/25/2013 4:41:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I go even a day without my Nexium, I'm in serious pain. I have hearburn 24/7 without my Nexium every single day. Plus I just started taking a pill for hypothyroidism which also causes heartburn so now my heartburn is double what it normally is.

A day without my Nexium?? I'd be miserable. Just ask Master.

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RE: Are there tests other than an endoscopy to determin... - 7/25/2013 8:16:43 PM   
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