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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:45:39 PM   
lovmuffin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

I did not call him a kid, I was quoting the person I was replying to

sorry I didn't use quotation marks


Then you are screwed. You can thank luvmuffin for that.

Down here in the "basement" we tend to get picky about how we post, for just these reasons.

You can try and insist, now, that you meant something else... but its not going to fly.



I didn't screw anyone. Those I named (and I may have left some off the list) are not the ones posting silly absurd shit and making up wild theories about the case. If he quoted someone using a phrase referring to kid to respond to a posting I don't see how its the same thing as using the phrase.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:47:47 PM   
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quote:

He was a minor but anyone old enough to join the military can hardly be considered a child.
The term was a misleading description bringing forth images of a 6 year old on his tricycle


Just because you had images of a 6 year old doesnt mean I did, or the person using it did.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:49:03 PM   
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quote:

I didn't screw anyone. Those I named (and I may have left some off the list) are not the ones posting silly absurd shit and making up wild theories about the case. If he quoted someone using a phrase referring to kid to respond to a posting I don't see how its the same thing as using the phrase.


Again, your definitions matter about as much as mine do. I think lots of people, you included, have posted some pretty stupid shit. You who thinks legal definitions no longer matter because they dont agree with your own definitions... or your agenda.

As to your "lack of understanding" (my empasis) its rather simple. He typed the letters. he could have changed it to man, T, Trayvon, Martin, a whole bunch of other words.

HE chose to use "kid" making him ineligible for your illustrious list.

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 7/1/2013 9:50:35 PM >


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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:49:43 PM   
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No quotes.... what you said does not match what he said.... you used the same word "kid" as he did.

quote:

Why was the kid yelling..."get off....get off?


The post you were replying too....

Your post....

quote:

1st of all you don't KNOW it was the KID yelling get off get off, "experts" seem to be split on WHO was yelling...


You didnt quote him, you used your own words. Own up to your mistakes



sorry thats a WORD FOR WORD QUOTE, all I did was leave out the ...'s

pretend anything you like!

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:51:36 PM   
tazzygirl


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You cant type "KID" with the quotation marks indicating the choice of words was NOT your own?

See, your problem is this... you didnt quote it back to anyone... you own those words.. sorry charlie.

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 7/1/2013 9:53:09 PM >


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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:54:47 PM   
BitYakin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

You cant type "KID" with the quotation marks indicating the choice of words was NOT your own?



GGEEEEZZZZZ like I said, sorrry for not using quoataion marks

doesn't change the fact that it IS a word for word quote of what the person I was replying to said!

like as if everyone here uses perfect punctuation!

pretend anything you like!

< Message edited by BitYakin -- 7/1/2013 9:56:46 PM >

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 9:55:23 PM   
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Not my problem.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:00:55 PM   
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Gee.
Nice use of "arrogated"

Here's the thing. My wife usually locks the house when we go to bed.
We never lock it when we leave.
I was the newcomer 15 years ago.
I'm still the newcomer.
We all know each other; we all look after each other.
There have been strange cars parked in the neighborhood. But not for long.
There have been strange people in the neighborhood. But not for long.
Someone sees them. Someone-armed- talks to them and moves them along. Or calls the cops, who move them along.
We are all on watch.
And we don't even lock our doors.
Whatever you're yammering about- whatever bad juju you're trying to pin on me, and mine, and my true ilk- is projection, my friend.
Get the log out of your eye before you concern yourself with the mote in mine.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:01:36 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

He was a minor but anyone old enough to join the military can hardly be considered a child.
The term was a misleading description bringing forth images of a 6 year old on his tricycle


Just because you had images of a 6 year old doesnt mean I did, or the person using it did.

Scrawny kid is based on those pics of him when he was 12-14 that were originally printed,
the more recent ones (like when he was 17 was anything but a scrawny kid.
But believe what you want, you have a right to your opinion.
As I also pointed out when someone is on top of you beating you to a pulp you don't card them.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:07:36 PM   
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Persons 14 and older can be tried as adults for serious crimes in Florida.
I think calling a 17 year old male of his size and predilections (drugs, brawling, stealing, #nolimitsnigga) a child is deliberately disingenuous, and has been since the start.
As is posting a Webster definition of "child" and passing it off as a legal definition.

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1. Islam and sharia are indivisible.
2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:09:05 PM   
tazzygirl


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5 ft 11 in 158 lbs.

Scrawny kid.

Weight to height should be.... (5-11), 158 to 175 medium frame

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:10:35 PM   
Extravagasm


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quote:

tazzygirl post 1184 : Not my problem. [BitYakin's choice not to use " " marks]

Yes it was. Quotation marks are not at all necessary in literature so long as the purpose, context, and attribution is discernible. This is especially true on CollarMe since its own automated quoting function does not insert " " marks.

Your other more serious problem is challenging people to look up references, you later claim you already knew. Especially using language hinting that the references are non-existent. This is a form of murky intimidation fraud.

tazzygirl post 1142: Who did? [Referring to TM as a child.]

tazzygirl post 1146: WHO called Trayvon a child?

truckinslave post 1147: Why are you asking me?

tazzygirl post 1148: Did you not say those were guotes?

lovemuffin post 1149: that was me and most are quotes. The last one . . . was paraphrased.

Extravagasm post 1150: Yes referred to as a child. Also how about scrawny kid [tazzygirl post 830]

tazzygirl post 1153: Its [child reference] been used multiple times by those citing case law. Its also been used a few times by certain people, and yes, I know who they are.

Probably not any sort of TOS violation. But it wastes all kinds of space and time. Creates unnecessary accusations. And is essentially a veiled prevarication.

You're known as the most efficient researcher on this site. Lucky to have your skills here. In the decade I've been on CM, I don't question that.


< Message edited by Extravagasm -- 7/1/2013 10:25:59 PM >


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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:12:27 PM   
lovmuffin


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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

quote:

I didn't screw anyone. Those I named (and I may have left some off the list) are not the ones posting silly absurd shit and making up wild theories about the case. If he quoted someone using a phrase referring to kid to respond to a posting I don't see how its the same thing as using the phrase.


Again, your definitions matter about as much as mine do. I think lots of people, you included, have posted some pretty stupid shit. You who thinks legal definitions no longer matter because they dont agree with your own definitions... or your agenda.

As to your "lack of understanding" (my empasis) its rather simple. He typed the letters. he could have changed it to man, T, Trayvon, Martin, a whole bunch of other words.

HE chose to use "kid" making him ineligible for your illustrious list.


Seems to me he was using the term kid to illustrate the absurdity of the original post. You're taking it out of context.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:15:04 PM   
tazzygirl


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quote:

Persons 14 and older can be tried as adults for serious crimes in Florida.


The clue in your statement is "can"

PA law has had 11 year olds tried as adults.

Twenty-three states have no minimum age in a least one judicial waiver or statutory exclusion provision allowing for the transfer of juveniles to adult court.

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
Duchess of Dissent 1
Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:17:21 PM   
truckinslave


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He was abomb looking for a target, and he found one

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2. Sharia is barbaric, homophobic, violent, and inimical to the most basic Western values (including free speech and freedom of religion). (Yeah, I know: SEE: Irony 101).
ERGO: Islam has no place in America.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:21:28 PM   
tazzygirl


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quote:

Yes it was. Quotation marks are not at all necessary in literature so long as the purpose, context, and attribution is clear. This is especially true on CollarMe since it own automated quoting function does not use quotation marks.

Your other more serious problem is challenging people to look up references, you later claim you already knew. Especially using language hinting that the references are non-existent. This is a form of murky intimidation fraud.


The purpose or attribution is not clear, as you will see if you actually do the search yourself and notice that I left many, many people off the list who used the same key words of "child" or "kid" because they were quite clear they were quoting someone else.

Nor did I ever say I didnt use either of those terms. I know I called him a kid. Anyone who is 17 is a "kid" to me considering I am 48.

I asked "who"... not as in "who" because no one did... but "who".. as in really? those people on your list did not?

I proved my point.

But, please, dont assume I am correct. Do as I did. Go back through each page. Do "Find" on the terms "kid" and "child". See what pops up, how many used those terms, and just who is on luvmuffin's list... and you will see why those I quoted were mentioned.

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Telling me to take Midol wont help your butthurt.
RIP, my demon-child 5-16-11
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Dont judge me because I sin differently than you.
If you want it sugar coated, dont ask me what i think! It would violate TOS.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:27:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
5 ft 11 in 158 lbs.


Those were almost my exact dimensions when I signed up for and enlisted in the United States Military at that same age.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:36:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BitYakin


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No quotes.... what you said does not match what he said.... you used the same word "kid" as he did.

quote:

Why was the kid yelling..."get off....get off?


The post you were replying too....

Your post....

quote:

1st of all you don't KNOW it was the KID yelling get off get off, "experts" seem to be split on WHO was yelling...


You didnt quote him, you used your own words. Own up to your mistakes



sorry thats a WORD FOR WORD QUOTE, all I did was leave out the ...'s

pretend anything you like!

SOP

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People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:38:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarqueMirror


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
5 ft 11 in 158 lbs.


Those were almost my exact dimensions when I signed up for and enlisted in the United States Military at that same age.

With about 10 lbs and 2 inches on me when I joined during Vietnam, and I had 3rd degree flat feet.

< Message edited by BamaD -- 7/1/2013 11:16:05 PM >


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Government ranges from a necessary evil to an intolerable one. Thomas Paine

People don't believe they can defend themselves because they have guns, they have guns because they believe they can defend themselves.

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RE: Zimmerman Trial - LIVE - 7/1/2013 10:39:06 PM   
Extravagasm


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quote:

tazzygirl post 1193: Anyone who is 17 is a "kid" to me considering I am 48.

Oh tazz, you'll always be a kid to me;) Maybe it's the hand print on your avitar, or maybe it's the way you try to wiggle out of blame every time like a 17 year old LOL.

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