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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 2:47:31 PM   
tj444


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WTF??? Have you bothered to look at a single fact about this case? Where in the police reports *from that night* does it say a word about 'John Doe'? They knew it was Trayvon Martin immediately, what they didn't know was how to reach his father, who wasn't at his Miami address that weekend.

And the lie that the Sanford PD were anything other than exhaustive in their collection of evidence has been disproven by the amount of it that was used at trial.
Where did all those crime scene photos and evidence bags (again from that night) come from if the police just walked away and didn't do their jobs?

WTF??? are you on about? There are various articles about the failures of the police (read the article, it details some of those failures) and the fact that Martin had no ID so was a "John Doe" for 3 days (even tho his father made a missing person report the next day).. sheesh..

"Martin's body was left in the morgue for three days, classified as a "John Doe.""
http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-chief-trayvon-martin-case-resigns-temporarily-amid/story?id=15977847

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 3:21:17 PM   
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Here is a telling example of just how bad Florida's justice system is.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=283139

Yeah really. Unless there is some critical information missing from the story, he should have been acquitted.

K.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 3:34:41 PM   
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Here is a telling example of just how bad Florida's justice system is.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=283139

Wow.........just wow....

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 3:51:49 PM   
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anyone have the facts and any instructions that the jury used to make their decision?





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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:02:51 PM   
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It is over and done with, the federal courts can go after him on civil rights violations.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:05:28 PM   
Powergamz1


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Status: offline 		That's what you've got? Media gossip from a year ago? From ABC? The ones who claimed they had a tape of a 911 call *from* Trayvon Martin that the police had hidden?
The ones who claimed they had a tape of Zimmerman saying the N word to the police dispatcher?

Seriously??

That's your explanation for all the evidence the PD 'never collected' that mysteriously showed up at trial?


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ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: Powergamz1

WTF??? Have you bothered to look at a single fact about this case? Where in the police reports *from that night* does it say a word about 'John Doe'? They knew it was Trayvon Martin immediately, what they didn't know was how to reach his father, who wasn't at his Miami address that weekend.

And the lie that the Sanford PD were anything other than exhaustive in their collection of evidence has been disproven by the amount of it that was used at trial.
Where did all those crime scene photos and evidence bags (again from that night) come from if the police just walked away and didn't do their jobs?

WTF??? are you on about? There are various articles about the failures of the police (read the article, it details some of those failures) and the fact that Martin had no ID so was a "John Doe" for 3 days (even tho his father made a missing person report the next day).. sheesh..

"Martin's body was left in the morgue for three days, classified as a "John Doe.""
http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-chief-trayvon-martin-case-resigns-temporarily-amid/story?id=15977847



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:11:30 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Kirata


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Here is a telling example of just how bad Florida's justice system is.
http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=283139

Yeah really. Unless there is some critical information missing from the story, he should have been acquitted.

K.


Here's a different take on the story. Personally, I would probably give more credence to the version in DomKen's post because it is presented with less bias. But...there are always (at least) two sides to every story. http://www.truecrimereport.com/2010/09/david_james_air_force_veteran.php

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:11:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Real0ne

yep wow just wow is right.

anyone have the facts and any instructions that the jury used to make their decision?






Its a SYG case....

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/03/20/florida-shooting-focuses-attention-on-stand-your-ground-law/

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/22/1076889/-Black-Shooter-of-White-Victim-in-Florida-Claimed-Stand-Your-Ground-still-went-to-Court

This so doesnt look good.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:20:50 PM   
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We accept (with sadness) gun deaths in the belief that it prevents greater tragedies. Before hitler killed 6 million jews - first he disarmed them. In the same way, powerless population segments have always been subjected to the whim of the powerful


My friend I reject this type of thinking... no revolution or war against an established government will be won with Saturday night specials in the hands of the average untrained citizen...and to believe conceal and carry is a deterrent against a democratically elected government is foolishness.

I am not advocating the repeal of any Constitutional amendment...just the wise and responsible regulation of it.

Butch


Syria rather proves your point Butch. I have stated much the same before.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:21:48 PM   
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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:22:23 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Wow... weird... apparently he was denied the SYG defense...

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_hillsborough/stand-your-ground-defense-denied-for-trevor-dooley-in-2010-death-of-david-james-in-valrico

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:25:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow... weird... apparently he was denied the SYG defense...

Happens over 30% of the time, SYG is not the automatic thing many (not naming anyone in particular)  seem to think it is.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:35:27 PM   
Powergamz1


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Like convincing them that Joe Bonamassa doesn't play the blues.
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ORIGINAL: BamaD

Wow... weird... apparently he was denied the SYG defense...

Happens over 30% of the time, SYG is not the automatic thing many (not naming anyone in particular)  seem to think it is.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 4:40:57 PM   
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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 5:54:26 PM   
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You are a white person. Do you realize how messed up it is to make this senseless murder about yourself or petty white person concerns?

Note to others: we can't change this level of self serving misguided thinking. It is as my first sentence suggested. To me it is an ugly glimpse into the soul of the republican base.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 6:00:06 PM   
Powergamz1


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Just to waste some water against rocks here:

You are a white person. Do you realize how messed up it is to make this senseless murder about yourself or petty white person concerns?

Note to others: we can't change this level of self serving misguided thinking. It is as my first sentence suggested. To me it is an ugly glimpse into the soul of the republican base.



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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 6:03:34 PM   
tazzygirl


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Status: offline 		Why dont you learn how to post.... right lower hand corner of his post is the name "Arturas"

A tip for you... if you click on the nic, it will take you right back to the post coudboy was replying too.

Im sure you can figure out that much.

< Message edited by tazzygirl -- 7/14/2013 6:06:27 PM >

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 6:22:57 PM   
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2) This is not 1863 and I don't live in the past and don't give a damn if you do.


[Etc., etc., etc.]

You absolutely do live in the past if it's still all about 'you' versus 'us' to you.

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 6:30:25 PM   
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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Just to waste some water against rocks here:

You are a white person. Do you realize how messed up it is to make this senseless murder about yourself or petty white person concerns?

Note to others: we can't change this level of self serving misguided thinking. It is as my first sentence suggested. To me it is an ugly glimpse into the soul of the republican base.


Much nicer response than deserved, congrats:)

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RE: UNMODERATED ZIMMERMAN - 7/14/2013 6:33:57 PM   
Arturas


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy

Just to waste some water against rocks here:

You are a white person. Do you realize how messed up it is to make this senseless murder about yourself or petty white person concerns?

Note to others: we can't change this level of self serving misguided thinking. It is as my first sentence suggested. To me it is an ugly glimpse into the soul of the republican base.


So. "Petty White Person Concerns". What if I said "Petty Black Person Concerns"?

Nice job. Black or not, your comment well supports why this white person is fully correct.


So. I'm getting into this reverse blackism. Starting with the saying: "White is Beautiful".

btw. Sweet.



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