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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 8:19:59 AM

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I think foul language it is the affirmation of an inferior intellect…otherwise lowlife mother fuckers… oh wait…never mind.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 8:22:07 AM

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I run in louche circles where people say fuck a lot
We're not shocked by profanity and don't use it to shock.
It's just a natural form of expression.

That said I censor myself around the less louche.
I don't use it at work, with people I don't know well or
around parents ( other peoples )and pearl clutching aunts.

I roll my eyes at adults who use Sunday school profanity
like darn, just say damn Pollyanna. You aren't impressing
anyone with your delicacy.

With written communication again the environment dictates
that. If you're say on a message board where things like getting
fucked up the ass and pissing on one another are being discussed
regularly I think you should expect some people are going to
speak plainly.

I'm not shocked by language and find it a little shocking
that some people are. But to each their own. Between
a person who expresses themselves colorfully, authentically
and freely and a censorious tight ass I'll take the former.

And on this attitude that using profanity is an indication of
a lack of class? My grandfather cursed like a sailor and he was
first class all the way. Actions speak louder than words.
And if you don't say say shit but behave like one that doesn't
make you classy. Doesn't even make you a classy shit. Just a shit.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 8:37:30 AM

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Using foul language in public is like blowing smoke in a non-smokers face. I don't want my children to inhale second hand smoke or hear foul profane language.

I don't use profanity ever but if I did I certainly would not use it where strangers or children or those that do not approve of it could hear.

Butch

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 8:56:11 AM

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I agree environment dictates especially if there are
children present. That's just good manners. But not
using "foul" language as a rule isn't a sign of good
character it's just a personal choice.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 9:20:45 AM

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Since the question was directed at males, I asked My other half, who identifies as a male Dominant.

He said foul language is far more attractive than snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 9:42:58 AM

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That's like saying rotten apples are worse than spoiled meat.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 9:45:55 AM

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I read somewhere recently that people who cuss are actually more honest people. I guess it's because we kind of tend to tell it like it is, and we don't sugar coat.

I grew up around a lot of guys with very foul mouths, so I guess I picked up on that. There was a time I thought it abhorrent to cuss. Back when I was in high school I think. But you know sometimes there are no words that can convey an emotion as well as saying the word FUCK.

Apparently though I don't cuss as often as I think I do because when I do cuss a lot of my friends act shocked. I find it adorable when people say "I thought you were so sweet and innocent." Pff! If you thought that you obviously don't know me.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 9:53:26 AM

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ORIGINAL: kdsub
That's like saying rotten apples are worse than spoiled meat.

Butch

I don't know, Butch. A rotten apple might make a person not feel well for a little while. Spoiled meat might make a person spit bile and regurgitate for several days.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 10:23:43 AM

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It depends on the situation. If I took someone to a really nice resturaunt I would expect them not to order a 40 oz bottle of cheap beer and I would expect them to know how to behave with enough social grace not to be an embaressment.

You act like you are in a sports bar in a sports bar but at a black tie affair it looks like you dressed up trailer trash and looks tasteless.

That being said I don't care how a person speaks in the bedroom or at home but in public I won't be kicked out of a venue I love because my date doesn't know how to behave.

I'm a submissive female and trust me, I have double dated with men and girls like that were talked about in very un flattering ways by EVERYBODY as soon as she left the room. It was usually followed by "who brought her and when is she leaving?"

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 10:45:04 AM

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I'm a terrible swearer. But I stick to using it where I know people won't be offended. Funnily enough I used to think that excessive swearing was unnecessary and a sign of a limited vocabulary. Now I don't give a fuck.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 11:03:37 AM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Since the question was directed at males, I asked My other half, who identifies as a male Dominant.

He said foul language is far more attractive than snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

I can be unintentionally snotty but I'm never passive aggressive.

For me behavior and attitude are more revealing than the language
people use. An uneducated person may not have the best grammar
in the world but that doesn't mean they aren't worth talking to.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:05:23 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Since the question was directed at males, I asked My other half, who identifies as a male Dominant.

He said foul language is far more attractive than snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

I can be unintentionally snotty but I'm never passive aggressive.
For me behavior and attitude are more revealing than the language
people use. An uneducated person may not have the best grammar
in the world but that doesn't mean they aren't worth talking to.

Oh, I agree with the highlighted above completely.

As a side note, I hope this isn't one of those cases of confusion where that chronological "in reply to" feature didn't mislead you into thinking My comment was directed at you. (That does happen, sometimes, by mistake.) It was a fast reply to answer the question.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:23:05 PM

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Sunny Quote of the Day
goes to
Mr. Pact
for
foul language is far more attractive than
snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:33:41 PM

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He said foul language is far more attractive than snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

He's got a point there!

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:35:18 PM

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My opinion on this matter is... I don't give a flying fuck.

If the person is a decent person than their love for the word "shit" just doesn't matter.
If they're a nasty piece of work than their squeaky clean language doesn't matter.
Too much importance attached to some sounds and not enough to the person.
Why is this question only geared at women's language?

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:35:23 PM

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I read somewhere recently that people who cuss are actually more honest people. I guess it's because we kind of tend to tell it like it is, and we don't sugar coat.

I grew up around a lot of guys with very foul mouths, so I guess I picked up on that. There was a time I thought it abhorrent to cuss. Back when I was in high school I think. But you know sometimes there are no words that can convey an emotion as well as saying the word FUCK.

Apparently though I don't cuss as often as I think I do because when I do cuss a lot of my friends act shocked. I find it adorable when people say "I thought you were so sweet and innocent." Pff! If you thought that you obviously don't know me.

I do not agree with the honesty statement.
I believe there is a difference between brashness or bluntness versus honesty.
To me, the following two statements mean pretty much the same, both honest:

"That's one fucking ugly-ass dress. Take that piece of shit off. "
"That dress is not attractive. Don't wear that. "

I believe language is more indicative of how a person was brought up with a view of just another word over who they truly are as a person, but that's still not necessarily true.
My parents were not big on foul language. They did not mind me using it when I was an adult, but as a teenager was viewed as a sign of disrespect. I've also been around many old-fashioned men that, after swearing, would apologize. One use of the work fuck is not going to offend me, but I'm used to that old-fashioned view.
I also don't believe that foul language has to mean someone lacks intellect. My favorite professor swore worse than anyone I have ever met. He was quite intelligent.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:38:32 PM

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My favorite "foul language" story comes from Maria von Trapp, whose life was the basis of The Sound of Music.

The family emigrated to the U.S., and it took Mrs. von Trapp a while to feel fluent in English. At one point, she was dealing with a nasty immigration official and got so furious that she said, "You, you, you--bedbug!" Later she realized that that startling epithet was far more effective than any swear word would have been.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 12:45:32 PM

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One last thought on this topic: I do think that one reason older movies often had better dialogue--sharper, wittier--than today's flicks is that the writers couldn't fall back on the crutch of four-letter words and thus had to find more creative ways to make their points.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 1:25:28 PM

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Is your attraction level (and feelings of dominant or submissive desire, moreso) impacted by a woman's use of foul language (in casual situations, pre-play, NOT while doing S&M).

Like a woman that casual says, "That fuckin' sucks," or "Those bitches...."

What is your first impression? For example, do submissive men find this kind of bitchy sounding woman to be potentially dominant when she's freely using unrefined language? Or does it seem she may be more sexually outgoing?

Or taking all BDSM out of the equation, does a woman with a foul mouth turn you off? Oh - here is a good example. Like the way Deborah Morgan talks in Dexter. Like a foul mouthed woman who is totally integrating curse words into her language.

Akasha

My only real impression about a woman who's freely foul-mouthed is just that she's a little rough around the edges / less given to social convention. And, obviously, I'm completely ok with this, although there's a time and place for everything. If it's in front of my parents or at a social function that doesn't involve lots of alcohol, it's a little untoward. Otherwise it's fine, as I'm a little free with words outside of the above situations myself.

Regarding any sort of D/s vibe based of language -- I don't think it really applies. I've seen both sides use really refined language and/or cuss like a sailor. My "ooo she might be dominant" sensor is tripped more by tone, implication, subtlety, and suggestion, rather than a filthy mouth.

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RE: Women that use foul language - turn on or turn off? - 8/3/2013 1:25:29 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Winterapple

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Since the question was directed at males, I asked My other half, who identifies as a male Dominant.

He said foul language is far more attractive than snotty, passive-aggressive behavior.

I can be unintentionally snotty but I'm never passive aggressive.
For me behavior and attitude are more revealing than the language
people use. An uneducated person may not have the best grammar
in the world but that doesn't mean they aren't worth talking to.

Oh, I agree with the highlighted above completely.

As a side note, I hope this isn't one of those cases of confusion where that chronological "in reply to" feature didn't mislead you into thinking My comment was directed at you. (That does happen, sometimes, by mistake.) It was a fast reply to answer the question.

Someone said I was ranting down in P&R this week. I wasn't just
stating a opinion but it's made me a little sensitive that I'm coming
off differently than I mean to at times. So better safe than sorry.

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