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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:37:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

I don't know IB, say I beat mine like it owes me money, would that modify your stance? It would have components of psuedo-bdsm at the very least....

Good at ya, me ol' cobber!!

Not sure mate but Ihave encountered groups of guys at mining camps when pissed they's jerk offover a driedcracker and the last one to spurt gets to eat the now soggy cracker.. Not my scene but that might just be BDSM too.....

<<Heaves Ron another iced Fosters>>

OH I did NOT need that image this early in the morning. I'm trying to believe I don't understand IB through the accent and all that slang....but I do understand him. Make the movie in my head STOP!

*GRIN*

E.

(by the way, why do you cobbers egg this clearly clueless troll on and on and on?)

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:38:11 AM

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That was great!

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:41:27 AM

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Thank you Artimis, that is extremely good advice (and I've always thought you are so articulate, too). I appreciate it. - Susan

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:50:55 AM

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Susan, the best way to judge a person's experience is to first read up, ask questions, and get as much knowledge of your own as you can. After that, decide how much experience you want that person to have. A persons experience can either be relative to your own or relative the group in general (whichever group that happens to be). So, for example, you may find somebody with more experience then you have, but compared to the group in general they are not quite so experienced. A simple conversation should be able to give you some hints as to how experienced a person is, once you decide what you're looking for. If it's obvious that they don't know what they are talking about then it’s a good sign they don't have much experience.

This theory too, is flawed. What if the person has read those same books or more books then you. He could talk all day long about how to do X but had never done X to an actual person. Would you still want to see him approach you with a knife in hand? A branding iron? A glue gun? Having book knowledge and having practical application experience are two very different things.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:51:37 AM

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For entertainment purposes only and to kill time untill other threads get active.... Cant sleep is another reason am on call out on a crazy midnight...... Besides, Ron and i love tossing shit at each other too.....

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:51:54 AM

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Well yes - doesn't everyone like to think their experiences are real? If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it, did it make a noise? Or do the squirrels just freak out...?

If they aren't real maybe just don't tell them - unless they ask. I know it was an intellectual excercise (I sort of construed it that way) and opinions I think are fine - but personally I don't realy care what other people do. I am just not that interested (unless I would be considering them as a partner I guess, or am researching some new area I think I might be interested in). Who has time? They going to stop doing what they do because of me? I doubt it.

I don't mean to sound like a pessimist (sp?) and I do believe one person can make a difference in some instances, and would stop someone from being mugged or abusing a child or something like that, but other than that, I find myself just not caring much. I really do think it's none of my business how they spend their sexual bdsm relationship time (nor how I spend mine theirs).

-Susan

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:52:10 AM

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Psuedo BDSM? Difficult to say, but I could posit that it is when thinking of it only...to the exclusion of real performance...that there is an exercise in psuedo BDSM going on. That there has to be a definite physical interaction that takes place. This is MOO.

so then we agree.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:52:53 AM

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A glue gun?

A glue gun? Oh you perv!!! .......I think I'm in lust

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:52:54 AM

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Having read through some of this thread, I wish to respond to the concept of the "BDSM community" and it getting organised.

I do not believe there is such a thing. I get my rocks off beating my Pet's ass, she gets her rocks off having her ass beat. That is all that we need to know. If we are real or fake is of no importance to us, and nor should it be to others.

I have no interest in getting "mainstream" society to accept me or the things that turn me on. I don't give a damn what my neighbours think about me or what I do, and I think that trying to make what is by definition a set of extreme and bizarre practices somehow appear palatable and benign to the "mainstream" is doomed to failure.

I am a pervert, and am not worried about how others may react to my perversions. Their reaction is their problem, not mine.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 7:56:02 AM

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This theory too, is flawed. What if the person has read those same books or more books then you. He could talk all day long about how to do X but had never done X to an actual person. Would you still want to see him approach you with a knife in hand? A branding iron? A glue gun? Having book knowledge and having practical application experience are two very different things.

ya well, we know there's no way to be sure mrdiscipline. just ways to educate the guess.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:00:32 AM

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A glue gun?

A glue gun? Oh you perv!!! .......I think I'm in lust

It brings a whole new meaning to the saying "I'm stuck on you, babe." LOL

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:02:26 AM

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Susan, the best way to judge a person's experience is to first read up, ask questions, and get as much knowledge of your own as you can. After that, decide how much experience you want that person to have. A persons experience can either be relative to your own or relative the group in general (whichever group that happens to be). So, for example, you may find somebody with more experience then you have, but compared to the group in general they are not quite so experienced. A simple conversation should be able to give you some hints as to how experienced a person is, once you decide what you're looking for. If it's obvious that they don't know what they are talking about then it’s a good sign they don't have much experience.
This theory too, is flawed. What if the person has read those same books or more books then you. He could talk all day long about how to do X but had never done X to an actual person. Would you still want to see him approach you with a knife in hand? A branding iron? A glue gun? Having book knowledge and having practical application experience are two very different things.

and then you read the rest of the post

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ORIGINAL: ArtimisBlack
Another indicator of experience is how long and how often they have been involved in BDSM. If they have been into it for years but have never met anyone in to *real* world it's another sign they might not have the experience you'd like. Other then that, go with your gut, and just to be on the safe side, don't do anything too extreme until you try the softer stuff first with them first and have known them a while. Hope this helps.

I'll understand if you feel a bit silly now.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:08:11 AM

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All you can do is not respond yourself rather than trying to tell others not to respond (which is ironically similar to zenoboy's approach). I guess the irony of responding to tell other people that responding only fuels the fire is lost on you?

P.S. What exactly is he winning? Is there a contest I didn't know about? What's the prize?

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ORIGINAL: feastie

So how many of you are going to continue buying into this guy's scam for attention? Every post you make, even one that comments on his rudeness, etc., is one more notch in his bedpost. The attention is what he's after. Having the power to "control" people on the board because of the way he words his posts. It doesn't matter one whit to him what you write, just as long as you write.

He's winning and you're allowing it.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:08:42 AM

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Why should I feel silly? You're the one that indicated she could do either one way or the other. Had you stated that both halves of your statement were one way of gaging experience, I would've found no argument. But you didn't. The way you stated them, they were two separate ways. One of them being flawed. So I pointed it out. So now it is you that can feel silly. For either poorly articulating your advice, or articulating poor advice.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:18:08 AM

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Sorry SusanofO, that was just a quick reply, not directed at you. In fact, I started the answer on page 2, but got called away and by the time I posted it, whew, lots of people had done posting. It just happened to post after your post.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:21:43 AM

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Agreed, we might as well salvage something.
But a question first. Your experience level, or another's?
If you don't have a lot of experience, then you may not catch the subtle things that a person with more time in grade (sorry, had to) would pick up on. But one clue is that if you go to a auto mechanic and he claims ten years experience, but has only a 12x8x6 inch toolbox, you can pretty safely assume he is being less than truthful. I've found the same in general applies to a Top, in that if he has two toys or tools, which had seen little wear, then. . Well.

So you judge someone experience by the size of their toy bag? Thats rather asinine. By this logic, if one buys toys second hand, has a room full of them and keeps the dust on off them, then they're of great experience. But if they specialize in one type of play and buy new implements in reserve because of wear, or simply only shows the new implement for the sake of first impressions, then they don't have the "experience". Bullshit.

I couldn't quite see the connection between *toys* and experience... but I'm assuming that you mean *experienced in a type of activity*...

Frankly the most *used* toy is my Master's mind.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:23:10 AM

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For either poorly articulating your advice, or articulating poor advice.

Articulating poorly advice ?

as a fleeting thought, how come you still get to see quotes from people on your ignore list ?

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:31:02 AM

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I put a person on my ignore list once, by accident. It took out everything in the thread she stated, so I would imangine that you shouldn't be able to see what they've said.. Is there a difference between the ignore list on the profiles and the ignore list in the MB?

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:33:17 AM

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Fast Reply....to no one in particular.

Having a big bag, or no bag of toys has little to do with experience. When the partner is gone, so are the toys that were shared with that partner.

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RE: Real BDSM - 6/29/2006 8:33:23 AM

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"Real" is in the eye of the beholder.

There are men and women out there who will tolerate nothing less than the sorts of edgy and inexorable control and play that borders on the historical. Like slaves that only feel punished if thier ass is reduced to hamburger,and takes two weeks to heal. Or really feel captive if they are locked into a strong cage that they CANNOT escape from-while the Master REALLY goes away for an entire day .(baby monitors? we don't need no stinkin baby monitors!)

Now when you come right down to it,nothing not backed up by the rule of law is going to be "real". But there are those out there who prefer it to be as close an aproximation as possible.

And if it's real to them-that's fine by me.

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