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Politesub53 -> RE: Congressional Vote on Syria - Use of Chemical Weapons (9/9/2013 4:29:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

And there are others (quite probably far better informed) that say thus:

http://www.thepeoplesview.net/2013/09/is-obama-in-process-of-landing.html

I hope it's true but I hope you'll forgive me if I don't hold my breath.


It seems likely, given Russia`s latest stance.




cloudboy -> RE: Congressional Vote on Syria - Use of Chemical Weapons (9/10/2013 10:09:50 AM)

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I am not arguing that there isn't a difference. There self-evidently is. What I'm arguing is that the people playing "the great game" don't give a rats ass about that difference when their own power becomes jeopardized. The priority tree these people work under starts with "my power" or, more accurately, "my family power" and it pretty much ends there too. So all these pretty words are meaningless.


I don't think Obama's stance here was a power grab any more than Clinton's acts in Kosovo were.

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I am trying to address the points you have brought up. There is no "complicated vote" on Syria. There is, however, a determined effort on the part of our rulers to go to war despite our wishes. That's the only complication here. I am dismissing "the horrible act of Syria" because it isn't horrible... at least not in Obama's eyes. That's all theatrics and handwaving. We all know that. How could we not? Darfur anyone? Our leaders don't give a rats ass about horror as I noted above. They care about power. I'm trying to address what's really going on not the theatrical production being played out to hypnotise us.


We aren't reading the same news sources.... and we also have a difference of opinion here. Obama had nothing to "gain" by striking Syria. I did not see any of this as theatrics.

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Why they have been "banned" is also obvious. It makes the soldiers happy and the citizens get to think how good we are... as we gas our own citizens
and construct our own such weapons.


As the Memo from Europe made clear, it is not obvious, especially to most people without any combat experience.




RacerJim -> RE: Congressional Vote on Syria - Use of Chemical Weapons (9/10/2013 10:32:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Yachtie

Seen via ZH -


Rice: "Our overarching goal is to end the underlying conflict through a negotiated, political transition in which Assad leaves power" #Syria

— White House Live (@WHLive) September 9, 2013



So, is it about regime change or chemical weapons? Is it about Quatar, the pipeline, and Iran or is about Assad's use of chem-weap? Obama seems to be painting himself into a corner. Just days ago it was not about regime change.



Rice is a proven liar (Benghazi).




mnottertail -> RE: Congressional Vote on Syria - Use of Chemical Weapons (9/10/2013 10:41:16 AM)

As all nutsuckers are proven liars 'fiscal responsibility'.




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