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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:20:08 PM

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Only the the chefs at the Loveless Cafe would think to replace a traditional pie dough lattice with crispy bacon. The result is an absolute sweet and salty miracle that is sure to have your tastebuds singing the “Hallelujah” chorus. Want to recreate this dish at home? Here’s how to do it.

http://www.lovelesscafe.com/recipes/bacon-apple-pie/

Oh. Good. Lord. I know a husband who would LOVE this. Thanks for posting it - I do the same as you stated in your previous post - spectacular sex being rewarded with fabulous food. I can see this being his next "thanks for the orgasms" treat!

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:31:31 PM

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Only the the chefs at the Loveless Cafe would think to replace a traditional pie dough lattice with crispy bacon. The result is an absolute sweet and salty miracle that is sure to have your tastebuds singing the “Hallelujah” chorus. Want to recreate this dish at home? Here’s how to do it.

http://www.lovelesscafe.com/recipes/bacon-apple-pie/

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:39:01 PM

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Why do people get so overweight? 1. It is unattractive. 2. It makes you seem ill disciplined. 3. It is unhealthy. 4. It makes life practically difficult. 5. It is bad for hormones, energy and happiness. 6. Fat people earn less and can get into far less jobs. However, people still continue to eat, eat, eat. So I was wondering what the opinion on this is, in this online bdsm community is? Is it an obsession with physical pleasure like a drug addiction? If so should they be treated like drug addicts and put in prison :).

I've got a better BMI than you...

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:39:16 PM

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OP - to rebut part of your post - google "life expectancy as related to weight".
Go ahead. I'll wait, and probably will be still waiting while you are dead, because overweight people live longer than normal or underweight people.

Shocking isn't it? But true.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:40:28 PM

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OP - to rebut part of your post - google "life expectancy as related to weight".
Go ahead. I'll wait, and probably will be still waiting while you are dead, because overweight people live longer than normal or underweight people.

Shocking isn't it? But true.

Really?

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:47:16 PM

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Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:48:04 PM

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there is a search button up there ^^^^^^ that allows you to search the forums for all the other fat threads we've had on the forums. it may be a little beyond your intelligence reach to think of it so I thought i'd point that out for you. click away sweetheart to your hearts content because you know what mr original you are not the first to start a fat thread. I doubt you'll be the last.

for dinner this evening I sautéed sliced new potatoes, I fried bacon and chicken, added garlic, walnuts and cabbage, and my son and I enjoyed every mouthful. I enjoy my food it's not a panic attack on a plate for me.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 1:55:02 PM

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Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.

It's not what the doctors say.

Ailey

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:03:42 PM

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Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.

It's not what the doctors say.

Ailey

That's because they're still trotting out the same old, same old. They're pretty much bound to pharaceutical companies - who are in business to make money.

Did you know that the BMI scale was 'invented' by an insurance company?

A pretty much fabulous site to start with is drbriffa.com.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:19:25 PM

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Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.

It's not what the doctors say.

Ailey

That's because they're still trotting out the same old, same old. They're pretty much bound to pharaceutical companies - who are in business to make money.

Did you know that the BMI scale was 'invented' by an insurance company?

A pretty much fabulous site to start with is drbriffa.com.

And have you noticed that fat(ter) people look nice and healthier when they get into old age compared to their skinny and often gaunt-looking friends??

ETA: Cop a dose of ebola, berri-berri, cholera, disentry, or any one of a zillion similar diseases and then tell me that fat didn't save your life!! Skinny people die from such and very quickly too.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:23:15 PM

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The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick.

I would argue that people who are overweight due to eating fast food do not have a better nutritional status. Watch the first two episodes of any season of Biggest Loser if you don't believe me - most contestants have all kinds of medical issues when they arrive.

I'm overweight from eating mostly healthy foods and I'm active - I can swim a mile nonstop, do 75 minutes of yoga, etc.

I still feel healthier when I'm 30# lighter.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:23:24 PM

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Why do people get so overweight? 1. It is unattractive. 2. It makes you seem ill disciplined. 3. It is unhealthy. 4. It makes life practically difficult. 5. It is bad for hormones, energy and happiness. 6. Fat people earn less and can get into far less jobs. However, people still continue to eat, eat, eat. So I was wondering what the opinion on this is, in this online bdsm community is? Is it an obsession with physical pleasure like a drug addiction? If so should they be treated like drug addicts and put in prison :).

Personally, I got fat just so people who are shallow, ignorant assholes would have someone to feel superior to!

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:24:05 PM

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Yep - as I said, google it and be amazed.

The way I read it, it has something to do with better nutritional status if you get sick. Makes you better able to resist illness and death. Not what most people would have thought.

It's not what the doctors say.

Ailey

http://healthland.time.com/2013/01/02/being-overweight-is-linked-to-lower-risk-of-mortality/

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:26:52 PM

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I would argue that people who are overweight due to eating fast food do not have a better nutritional status.

That would only be true of those over-eating a bad diet.
That doesn't necessarily mean fast food.
And there are many conditions where people are fat, but not through over-eating.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:49:39 PM

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That would only be true of those over-eating a bad diet.
That doesn't necessarily mean fast food.

"Fast food" should be clearly understood as not referring to celery sticks or McDonald's salads.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:53:39 PM

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I think the original post was intentionally meanspirited. It is quite sad when someone gives up on himself/herself and ceases to care for their physical well being. I work in the medical field and many of my coworkers have sustained injuries from moving/transporting a larger, less mobile, morbidly obese population. I do not think anyone says to themselves, "I'm gonna be 200 lbs over weight and be a burden to society". It doesn't happen overnight either. I think they gain a bit of weight and don't think much of it, become sedentary and depressed, then find the task overwhelming, daunting. There is a large element of choice and personal responsibility, yes, but having a MD just say "lose weight fatty" doesn't help anyone. If it were that easy, it wouldn't have gotten so out of hand in the first place. That being said, we all choose our mates on different criteria, but physical attractiveness is a strong component and pretending it's not a big deal, lying about it doesn't help anyone either. Most men an women are not going to find a morbidly obese individual attractive for obvious reasons of health, well being, and childbearing/rearing concerns. However with just a bit of guidance and encouragement I have seen coworkers and patients lose 100+ lbs over the course of a year without surgical intervention. It is not ok to be morbidly obese, from an individual health perspective or for a society. However, making mean-spirited comments does no one any good. I think the individual has to make the first step and the guidance is there for those who want it

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 2:53:45 PM

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There's a huge difference between being overweight and being morbidly obese. Besides jlf's noting how many medications can cause weight gain as a side effect, there are undiagnosed thyroid conditions some people may have been struggling with all of their lives. Both women & men have bought into innumerable diet crazes, try the latest diet fad out there without a second thought, and get caught up in a self-defeating yo-yo dieting cycle. Yes, we should all make sensible, nutritional food choices, not throw our blood-sugar levels out of whack, eat and exercise regularly, not skip meals to the point of famishment. There's as much danger from going to the other extreme of anorexia & bulimia and becoming a skinny bitch.

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Unfortunately, there are a lot of drugs that are used to treat various psych disorders that are appetite stimulants, others actually cause weight gain in and of themselves.

For myself, part of my weight gain was due to depression after a back injury basically ended a career that I loved. It was compounded when I was diagnosed as bipolar and put on meds to deal with that.

Since I have researched medications, I have a very active input in medications that I am prescribed.

I also have made "excuses" to exercise, primarily a 3 mile walk with one of my hybrid dogs every morning and on cool evenings.

So far I have lost over 120 pounds at a slow pace which makes it easier to keep off.

It is especially difficult for women to shake off weight gain from later-year pregnancy (30s+). I know that when I gave birth close to my mid-30s, I wasn't able to so readily bounce back as I had when I was in my 20s. At one point I was pushing over 180 lbs. I couldn't diet while I was still nursing, and it took a good 3 years before I fully regained my figure. Luckily for me, my husband turned out to be one of those roughly 1 out of 10 men who find BBWs more attractive, as it turned out. (It was so long ago, I can't recall where I read this.) He actually didn't want me to lose weight. He liked my big butt & breasts better that way and wouldn't leave me alone. Didn't manage to get a whole lot accomplished during that period. Then when I did lose weight, the first place it came off was on top. You can't win for losing.

jlf1961, I'm sure you feel a lot better about yourself getting a handle on things and keeping at your daily exercise regimen. It was important for you to grab the bull by the horns instead of having a pity party. For anyone else, as long as you are happy with the way you are and keep working toward being the best person you can be, that's really all that matters. Love thyself first, then you will have enough fuel in your love tanks to give to others.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 3:08:18 PM

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They're pretty much bound to pharaceutical companies - who are in business to make money.

I used to lead a pretty active life. Worked construction. Jogged. Hiked. Biked. Danced (even taught for a while). But then my back went bad. I had to stop work. Stop hiking, biking and dancing. Weight started piling on. Then my dad died. Stress. His death created family problems. More stress. I was forced to move. More stress. Had signed up for SS Disability, so had no income for 3 years waiting for claim to be settled. More stress. Weight and inactivity created high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes.

The doctors I have been going to just ignore my back problems. (An x-ray of my lower back looks like a train derailment.) I noticed that every time one of the pharmaceutical reps visited the doctor's office I ended up with another prescription. They kept telling me to "just go for a walk". They don't seem to understand...or WANT to understand...that I had to give up things like "just walking" and that is why I'm in the condition I'm in.

So right now I'm searching for a doctor that wants to fix what's wrong instead of just shoving more pills at the symptoms. Less than 5 minutes on my feet sends my back into severe spasms. If I can get the problems with my back fixed enough I would LOVE to be able to go for walks and hikes again. I doubt that dancing again will ever be in my future, but my inactivity is not by my own choosing. And the first thing I need to do is find a doctor that is more than a pill pusher.

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 3:08:29 PM

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I've known a few underweight individuals that seemingly couldn't gain weight. No matter how much or what they ate, or how little activity they were involved in. At least one of them wanted to gain weight.
Based on the following chart (after googling based on kiwisub's recommendation) I'd say they have more to worry about than someone who is overweight. But, as long as they're not hurting your eyes, I'm sure that's of no concern to you.

In the newly published study, researchers used data from an ongoing Canadian national health survey to follow more than 11,000 adults from the mid-1990s to 2007.

Compared to people who fell into the normal-weight category:

Those classified as underweight were 73% more likely to die.
Those classified as extremely obese with BMI of 35 or greater were 36% more likely to die.
Those classified as obese with BMI 30-34.9 had about the same risk of death.
Those classified as overweight with BMI 25-29.9 were 17% less likely to die.

http://www.m.webmd.com/diet/news/20090625/study-overweight-people-live-longer?page=1

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RE: Fat - 10/11/2013 3:09:31 PM

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OP, it's your fault. We find you so repellant that we all got fat just so you wouldn't contact us. Happy now?

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