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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/11/2013 7:02:44 PM   
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Movies are full of trickery. Camera angles change perspective. Knives and needles retract (and a dildo may deflate). Appearances are manipulated. When dangers are faced, stunt people plan and test and plan and practice - for safety.

IMO, a "true" top or Dom/me, experiences the receiving end of things before inflicting the same on another.

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/11/2013 7:28:31 PM   
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I'm probably the only one watching the video here. Curiosity got the better of me but then I love getting my sub to swallow a dildo and I have been known to be quite forceful.

In the video she is using a fairly rigid silicone dildo which is thick and long. She does however, hold the dildo half way up and so its not going too deep into the girls throat. What its actually doing is hitting the back roof of her mouth and its just enough to make her eyes water. The thing about a thick rigid dildo is, the girl will allow it in so far and then bite down on it, which is what was happening here and that's why a guy shouldn't be tempted to do this with his own dick!

I thought the girl was too rough, a bit messy with it but the thing that concerned me most was, at one point she has her arm wrapped round the girls throat from behind whilst ramming the dildo in her mouth. It was this position I once found myself in during a play fight (minus the dildo) and the result was me being rushed on a bluey to the emergency room whilst fitting and unconscious.

I think forced cock sucking (dildo deep throating) is hot, so long as its done carefully. I didn't get the impression in the video though, that this woman really knew what she was doing.


I watched it too, and I have to second most of this posts, other than that I didn't necessarily feel that the actor lacked skill.

It's very clear when you watch carefully that she's trying to create the illusion of that whole thing going in, when in actuality not even half of it actually penetrates the girl's mouth. Further, there isn't even any deepthroating in this film, all the penetration is in the mouth, none of that dildo goes in the girl's throat.

It's all for show, and not much happens that's actually that impressive, aside from them looking a bit rough.

Now on the ACTUAL forced deepthroating, that's not something that should be done rough, nor is it something that should be done with an inexperienced person. Deepthroathing is a skill that takes time to master, and it's not acquired by forcefully ramming a dildo into a girl's mouth. In fact, doing that would be as idiotic as expecting a novice sub to become an expert swordswallower overnight.

There is a lot of the same technique at play between swordswallowing and deepthroating, and both are a matter of learning to control the muscles that usually involuntarily control the throat, as well as the gag reflex.
Quickly forcing and object down a person's throat who isn't an expect at controlling those muscles will result in one thing, and one thing alone: vomiting.

Trust the experience of the people here, real life BDSM doesn't look anything like the porn version... and take it from somebody who has practical experience with both the porn as well as the real life version... the porn version is lame compared to the real deal.

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/12/2013 12:26:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BecomingV

First Do No Harm

Movies are full of trickery. Camera angles change perspective. Knives and needles retract (and a dildo may deflate). Appearances are manipulated. When dangers are faced, stunt people plan and test and plan and practice - for safety.

IMO, a "true" top or Dom/me, experiences the receiving end of things before inflicting the same on another.




Welcome, BecomingV

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/18/2013 11:16:29 AM   
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[Skipping past the "how could you do such a thing" stuff ...]

It's called face fucking (or throat fucking if you prefer) and it requires a bit of skill, time and effort to pull it off. For a start don't think you're going to be able to "brutalise" your girl from day 1 like the porn stars do UNLESS you're willing to see the inside of an Accident & Emergency room and explain some things to doctors and possibly the police!

Find a soft silicone dildo. It needs to be flexible and (realistically) you're looking at 5 inches length and a thin diameter to start with.

Start practicing slowly. This can be a fun way to assert your dominance over your partner as they're going to be learning something and you get to push their physical limits.

Watch the gag reflex. That's the body's way of saying "please get this out of me". Your girl will learn how to control it and overcome it with time.

Your first target is to deep throat it, so that's get the dildo down her throat so she can hold it there.

Second target is to get her to take it in and out of her throat a couple or three times, so a gentle fucking action. She needs to learn how to lubricate her throat so that the dildo doesn't catch or start to cause damage.

Then you can start to gradually build up pace and duration.

It can be incredibly good fun to train someone to do this, incredibly satisfying when finally silicone is replaced with something organic and a wonderful addition to the repertoire of tricks and games to play.

BUT ...

DO NOT think she's going to get face fucked until she can't speak. That's both dangerous and stupid.

Otherwise have fun.

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/18/2013 11:27:32 AM   
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Can these same techniques for training to deepthroating be used on inexperienced male subs?
Do these techniques work if the male is not "eager" to be deep throated yet trained anyway?
Anything different between deep throating a male and deep throating a female?

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/18/2013 11:30:51 AM   
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I've never face fucked a guy so good luck on finding out!

I have used this approach on submissives at a distance, so I see no reason why you can't learn how to use the same approach to increase your own ability to deep throat.

But I will say again, there is a world of difference between being genuinely forced and ending up with long term damage and training yourself BEFORE you are "forced".

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/18/2013 11:58:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MaleBitchLA

Do these techniques work if the male is not "eager" to be deep throated yet trained anyway?



With dildos, sure.

As for cock... I don't have one, but if I did I sure as fuck wouldn't be putting it in a cavity full of teeth if the receiver wasn't eager to have it there...

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/19/2013 4:42:51 AM   
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Good point. Aside from the obvious, even if the event is consensual non-consent the gag reflex can cause some people to "bite down".

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/19/2013 10:04:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: UllrsIshtar
Quickly forcing and object down a person's throat who isn't an expect at controlling those muscles will result in one thing, and one thing alone: vomiting.


True but you can do that slowly too. Making a person vomit is kind of hot



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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/19/2013 10:29:55 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: indian26maleuk

The dildo will be flexible.. but my point is if they did it in the porn movie for a few mins. it should be fine? just wondering if anyone had had done this fantasy? maybe ramming it to the point where she cant speak is overkill but to start a rough fantasy off maybe not?




If you have to ask, I'll be happy to answer:
Imho: this is not a safe practice, the risk outweighs the value. She could die.
Therefore, it shouldn't be done.
it is however recommended that anytime you decided something is good for your partner, you should test it on yourself first.
if you cannot seriously recommend that to yourself, then why would you bother to recommend it for someone else?

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/27/2013 4:31:20 AM   
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Ramming until can't speak? Get real.

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/27/2013 5:17:18 AM   
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The woman gets deep throated AND is mute afterwards? Two male fantasies in one!

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 11/27/2013 5:27:44 AM   
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Kind of off topic, but was in the video.....you can facefuck me til I puke, but if you spit in my eyeball you are gonna be getting your ass kicked!

:::::shudders::::::::

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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 12/4/2013 9:12:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterRazz

[Skipping past the "how could you do such a thing" stuff ...]

It's called face fucking (or throat fucking if you prefer) and it requires a bit of skill, time and effort to pull it off. For a start don't think you're going to be able to "brutalise" your girl from day 1 like the porn stars do UNLESS you're willing to see the inside of an Accident & Emergency room and explain some things to doctors and possibly the police!

Find a soft silicone dildo. It needs to be flexible and (realistically) you're looking at 5 inches length and a thin diameter to start with.

Start practicing slowly. This can be a fun way to assert your dominance over your partner as they're going to be learning something and you get to push their physical limits.

Watch the gag reflex. That's the body's way of saying "please get this out of me". Your girl will learn how to control it and overcome it with time.

Your first target is to deep throat it, so that's get the dildo down her throat so she can hold it there.

Second target is to get her to take it in and out of her throat a couple or three times, so a gentle fucking action. She needs to learn how to lubricate her throat so that the dildo doesn't catch or start to cause damage.

Then you can start to gradually build up pace and duration.

It can be incredibly good fun to train someone to do this, incredibly satisfying when finally silicone is replaced with something organic and a wonderful addition to the repertoire of tricks and games to play.

BUT ...

DO NOT think she's going to get face fucked until she can't speak. That's both dangerous and stupid.

Otherwise have fun.


I love this answer.

And DarkSteven, shush you.. :P


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RE: dildo deepthroat ramming - 12/4/2013 4:32:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Steelslilbit

I love this answer.



Thank you

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