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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am not a hawk Domken but we have already allowed two rogue nations to obtain nuclear weapons. If we had the balls to demand they stop during development the world would be a lot safer today. Just because we messed up then does not mean we should give up now.

There is no such thing as fairness when it comes to weapons that can kill millions In a few seconds. The more unstable nations we allow to have this devastating power the more likely the use.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am not a hawk Domken but we have already allowed two rogue nations to obtain nuclear weapons. If we had the balls to demand they stop during development the world would be a lot safer today. Just because we messed up then does not mean we should give up now.

There is no such thing as fairness when it comes to weapons that can kill millions In a few seconds. The more unstable nations we allow to have this devastating power the more likely the use.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Which sect were behind 9/11..... Sunni or Shia. (Best not to make it diffuclt and ask which branch of which sect.)
For two bonus points, which Country did most of them come from ? Was it a)Saudi Arabia b)Saudi Arabia c)Saudi Arabia or d)Saudi Arabia?

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Which sect were behind 9/11..... Sunni or Shia. (Best not to make it diffuclt and ask which branch of which sect.)
For two bonus points, which Country did most of them come from ? Was it a)Saudi Arabia b)Saudi Arabia c)Saudi Arabia or d)Saudi Arabia?

Answer: E) All of the Above [:D]

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

That is assuming they are interested in anything other than delaying tactics. But as I've stated it is too late now for a preemptive strike so by all means try to get them to change their minds. Then when this fails we may have some world support for military action.

My point however is no matter the outcome of this impasse the US will not and should not normalize relations with Iran. It would be like the appeasement of Hitler.




Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

I am not a hawk Domken but we have already allowed two rogue nations to obtain nuclear weapons. If we had the balls to demand they stop during development the world would be a lot safer today. Just because we messed up then does not mean we should give up now.

There is no such thing as fairness when it comes to weapons that can kill millions In a few seconds. The more unstable nations we allow to have this devastating power the more likely the use.

Butch

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Which sect were behind 9/11..... Sunni or Shia. (Best not to make it diffuclt and ask which branch of which sect.)
For two bonus points, which Country did most of them come from ? Was it a)Saudi Arabia b)Saudi Arabia c)Saudi Arabia or d)Saudi Arabia?

Answer: E) All of the Above [:D]

No Shi'ites were involved in 9/11. As a matter of fact no mainstream Sunni were either. Only Wahhabists who many Islamic scholars argue is not Sunni at all.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I wondered when an American would mention appeasemant again, that hasnt happened for at least three weeks.

Butch........ What was America doing, re Hitler, prior to 1939 ?..... Everything ? Anything ? Nothing ?

I think a few on here need reminding just how the hardliners got in control in Iran, and by popular demand. None of this makes it foolish to try and talk to those that are moderate, whats foolish is seeing them as all the same and carrying on this stupid Status Quo. The neocons on here seem to want action on North Korea and action in Iran while demanding American troops come home. How did the last two adventures work out for you chaps ? Because I can tell you how we fared as a direct result of the Iraq invasion, the 7/7 bombings.

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ORIGINAL: papassion

On October 1, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ,speaking in the United Nations, warned that Iran obtaining the nuclear bomb, "would trigger nuclear proliferation throughout the Middle East, turning the most unstable part of the planet into a nuclear tinderbox."

Thus it is in everyones' interest to make sure Iran does not get a nuclear weapon.

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OMG, Butch. Spare us the Munich card, please. Iran in 2013 bears no resemblance to Germany 1938.

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I wondered when an American would mention appeasemant again, that hasnt happened for at least three weeks.

Butch........ What was America doing, re Hitler, prior to 1939 ?..... Everything ? Anything ? Nothing ?

I think a few on here need reminding just how the hardliners got in control in Iran, and by popular demand. None of this makes it foolish to try and talk to those that are moderate, whats foolish is seeing them as all the same and carrying on this stupid Status Quo. The neocons on here seem to want action on North Korea and action in Iran while demanding American troops come home. How did the last two adventures work out for you chaps ? Because I can tell you how we fared as a direct result of the Iraq invasion, the 7/7 bombings.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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OMG, Butch. Spare us the Munich card, please. Iran in 2013 bears no resemblance to Germany 1938.

You are the one demanding comparisons... the only point I am making is we should face this problem head on and pursue it to completion rather than appeasing as the west did Hitler.

Butch

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Two rogue nations have nuclear weapons??? North Korea and . . . Israel?

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ORIGINAL: papassion

On October 1, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ,speaking in the United Nations, warned that Iran obtaining the nuclear bomb, "would trigger nuclear proliferation throughout the Middle East, turning the most unstable part of the planet into a nuclear tinderbox."

Thus it is in everyones' interest to make sure Iran does not get a nuclear weapon.