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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 7:28:56 AM   
ChatteParfaitt


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I don't think you should give up, I do think there is a time when you just don't actively seek. I would never travel a long distance to meet someone unless (like lw) I wanted a vacation there anyway.

For the most part men have had to come to me. Back when I was single, if someone was interested in me, then they needed to show it by coming to visit so we could meet real time. For example, a potential dom flew in from the east coast and got a hotel so we could go out to dinner.

According to Google, Houston is 51 miles away. It's a huge city, I bet they have numerous groups you could check out. Would you be willing to drive that far and meet people at a munch or whatever?

Seriously I think that's your best bet. You'll make like-minded friends, and possible meet someone that suits.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 7:34:29 AM   
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According to Google, Houston is 51 miles away.

Wait, is this true? The OP lives an hour's drive away from a city with a population of over a million people?

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 7:44:40 AM   
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Also, what's with the recent OP's that just don't add up?

"I'm a pretty young female dominant who is well known in the local community of the major international city I live in, but I'm having trouble finding a sub male to be a third in a scene."

"I'm a female sub with a great job and who gets hit on constantly by vanilla men who look like underwear models, but I can't find a dom even though I live an hour from Houston."

I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that, in both cases, the real problem is that the OP's are so focused on personal ego defense that they are unable to see the real problem. Whatever that problem is, because they sure aren't telling the rest of us.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 7:57:19 AM   
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I just scanned her posts, I don't see the female dom post. Are you sure it's the same person?

I did see she's tired of driving into Houston going to munches.

Okay so have them drive to you.

Although you say you love your life and from your profile you seem pretty independent. There is a desperation in your actions.

Why on earth would you stay in a stranger's house?

Why would you fly to meet some strange man?

If you're so happy in your life, you don't need to do that crap. You state in your profile that you're fat. It appears to be a huge self esteem issue with you. Work on that.

Either lose weight or learn to accept yourself as you are. B/c no matter what you say, you seem to have some serious self esteem issues.

Just my take.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 8:00:11 AM   
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I just scanned her posts, I don't see the female dom post. Are you sure it's the same person.

It isn't. It's one of the top posts in General though. There aren't usually two posts on the front page that just flat-out confuse me.

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4602985

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/17/2013 7:29:29 PM   
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I've always paid for my own trips and drinks, etc...

If you can't afford to do that then only look local. Don't expect someone else to pay your expenses. I personally find that to be completely lame.

I have paid for my own trips also but one guy I travelled to meet postponed on me after I had already rented a car, he told me he would pay the cost of that 1 day rental cost but the following week when I did meet him, he conveniently forgot about that and never did reimburse me for my unnecessary cost.. imo, if a guy offers to pay for part of the cost of travel but then doesn't, well.. imo take that as him showing his hand in his willingness to keep his word or not (obviously its not a good sign if he doesn't, imo).. and when a guy offers to pay, he should not need to be "reminded" of his promise, he either keeps his word or doesn't.. he is either honorable or he's not.. either trustworthy or not.. it shows his character and how important you are to him (or not).. jmo..



I can completely understand that and for the most part I would agree with you. However, had I never met the guy yet and he canceled for some reason and rescheduled and offered to pay for the one day of rental, I would have turned him down telling him I was there for me and not for him so he owed me nothing at all.

This is just one more reason I say to go to meet someone because you can afford to yourself and you want to be there anyway, with or without him. No expectations whatsoever. Just go and enjoy the time there whether things work out or not. Getting upset or angry about it or feeling someone owes you something is just stupid to me and says you were putting all your eggs in one basket and expecting things to work out.


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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/19/2013 8:44:36 AM   
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I am definitely working on losing the weight and maybe the idea of just waiting till I feel happier with my weight before I look for a partner has merit. I don't believe in being promiscuous, but unfortunately I have a very high sex drive. Lately I just masturbate several times a day, but even though it's only been a few months since I had sex, I have been more and more tempted to just give in and let my ex Dom win and go back to him (at least for the sex) or give in to one of the guys I dated. There is also another ex Dom who made the same offer. You have actually witnessed in my posts this gradual shift in my thought process. At first, I thought maybe the best course of action would be a clean cut with my ex in favor of finding a new Dom soon, before I got to the point where the need for intercourse would be stronger than my decision to do things the right way, but it's not easy because I guess I am picky. I am attracted to a certain type of man. I like tall men who are at least fit and able to keep up with me. I may be overweight, but I am athletic. I work a very physical job and my shifts are over 12 hours long. That kind of gives you an idea of my stamina. My partner should be in the same kind of shape. It's hard to find a dominant tall fit man who is attracted to BBWs as you can imagine. There are some though not many, but that explains why I had to expand my search. The fact that I have had several dates with men who fit my preferences proves that it's not impossible to eventually meet somebody I am attracted to. But it is extremely difficult to find just the right combination. I know my preference smells of hypocrisy, but that's how it is.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/19/2013 9:24:22 AM   
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It took a long time, but this "pleasantly plump" woman did find a 6'6" kinky local guy who shares my relationship goals and is also on my wavelength politically!

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 6:06:15 AM   
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Personally, I feel it is foolish to think that meeting in a public place will protect you from harm. How many rapes or beatings happen from home and public places? I take my security within myself, having prepared to defend myself after I was old enough to do so, because I have been taken right off the street and pulled into a car by someone local to me, known to many. I also had a friend that said, I could take you out of this establishment and no one would do a thing. I said he was wrong. So this six foot three man that looked like a real rough biker, picked me up and carried me out of the place and set me down outside. He said, where are your saviors? He proved to me that a woman has to be her best self defense. I also came down my stairs from putting my kids to bed and found a man there to greet me, someone that had seen me from a place he was visiting.

It can happen in lots of ways. I recommend being prepared for anything, anywhere, anytime. There are things we do that can be a false sense of security for us and we lower our defenses. For me, there is no security... no for sure anything, but I do take care and I am prepared. I will not live in fear, but I will live prepared and aware. Anyone can be fooled... anyone. Anyone, male or female can be set up and taken advantage of or made victim.

To sound as if one way is more secure than another in the society we live in... is fool hardy. There is a chance at every time with anyone that we could be placing ourselves at risk and to take security in a hotel room... rofl... is just not something I would trust. Have you heard or seen what happens in those places? Without living in fear I have met a number of people local and not local, in various situations and only one was an issue and it wasn't physical safety I had to worry about... but his lies and manipulations and coming to a public place.. here, to bring his drama.

We are responsible for our own safety, however we do that and we can be what some might say is wiser and safer, but the facts are, there are no guarantees. We are our own best weapon of protection by many means... but with my experiences, I feel better about meeting them in my home because there I have better protections than hoping a stranger might see and hear and help me in a public place. Tell this protective measure to all those taken from public places that didn't survive. My home is my castle, I reign there and I feel better about it. Yet, I could still be victimized there. Victims can often be people that look like victims to others. This is why they say that when in public and alone, to walk aggressively and look like you know how to take care of business. I know this works and in some places I have lived, it served me well... and that knife I carried did help a time or two when someone got pushy about wanting a 'date'. The worst hours in that area were between five and seven in the evening when all the men were coming home from work and no one expected something to happen in broad daylight. Please don't tell me I should have lived in better places, when I was a single mother, ill and not getting any child support and my income was the only income supporting the kids with specail health problems that cost me over four hundred a month for just one of the kids, that wasn't covered with insurance.

Things happen. The best advice is to teach women to be strong, to not fall for anything that spins a pretty tale or gives them attention and give them self defense classes. Teach them to be badass and to never think no one could take them down... anywhere they might be. Anyone can be taken down... but if you are strong, able and have confidence, you may survive it.


Everything said here is perfect. Excellent post Rawni!

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 7:00:04 AM   
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I am definitely working on losing the weight and maybe the idea of just waiting till I feel happier with my weight before I look for a partner has merit. I don't believe in being promiscuous, but unfortunately I have a very high sex drive. Lately I just masturbate several times a day, but even though it's only been a few months since I had sex, I have been more and more tempted to just give in and let my ex Dom win and go back to him (at least for the sex) or give in to one of the guys I dated. There is also another ex Dom who made the same offer. You have actually witnessed in my posts this gradual shift in my thought process. At first, I thought maybe the best course of action would be a clean cut with my ex in favor of finding a new Dom soon, before I got to the point where the need for intercourse would be stronger than my decision to do things the right way, but it's not easy because I guess I am picky. I am attracted to a certain type of man. I like tall men who are at least fit and able to keep up with me. I may be overweight, but I am athletic. I work a very physical job and my shifts are over 12 hours long. That kind of gives you an idea of my stamina. My partner should be in the same kind of shape. It's hard to find a dominant tall fit man who is attracted to BBWs as you can imagine. There are some though not many, but that explains why I had to expand my search. The fact that I have had several dates with men who fit my preferences proves that it's not impossible to eventually meet somebody I am attracted to. But it is extremely difficult to find just the right combination. I know my preference smells of hypocrisy, but that's how it is.

I'm not sure the issue is "lose the weight" as much as it is, "Why are you fat?" There are heavy RNs who eat their emotions -- a medical Jolly Fat Man Syndrome. Maybe you're one? Maybe if you're able to relate to yourself better, you'll be able to relate to men better, too.

If you date 20 vanilla guys, and not a single one is interested in kink, something's wrong. Dominants and tops just aren't that unusual.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 10:42:37 AM   
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I gain weight every time I get into a relationship for two reasons:

1. I'm spending time with him that I used to spend exercising
2. I like to show off my cooking skills. If I'm cooking for myself, I make a lot more chicken, brown rice, and broccoli. When I'm cooking for a man, it's a lot more high calorie, like this, which I made Wednesday: http://www.americastestkitchen.com/recipes/5031-spaghetti-with-pecorino-romano-and-black-pepper-cacio-e-pepe?incode=MASAZ00L0

After a breakup, I go back to spending time in the gym and eating chicken, brown rice, and broccoli, and lose weight.

OP - myfitnesspal has been very useful to bring mindfulness into my eating. If you have a smartphone, there's an app for it.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 10:44:19 AM   
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If you date 20 vanilla guys, and not a single one is interested in kink, something's wrong. Dominants and tops just aren't that unusual.


Yes, I was able to find kinky guys while living on an ashram. Nothing hard-core, but enough to scratch my itch.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 11:07:09 AM   
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quote:

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quote:

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I've always paid for my own trips and drinks, etc...

If you can't afford to do that then only look local. Don't expect someone else to pay your expenses. I personally find that to be completely lame.

I have paid for my own trips also but one guy I travelled to meet postponed on me after I had already rented a car, he told me he would pay the cost of that 1 day rental cost but the following week when I did meet him, he conveniently forgot about that and never did reimburse me for my unnecessary cost.. imo, if a guy offers to pay for part of the cost of travel but then doesn't, well.. imo take that as him showing his hand in his willingness to keep his word or not (obviously its not a good sign if he doesn't, imo).. and when a guy offers to pay, he should not need to be "reminded" of his promise, he either keeps his word or doesn't.. he is either honorable or he's not.. either trustworthy or not.. it shows his character and how important you are to him (or not).. jmo..


I can completely understand that and for the most part I would agree with you. However, had I never met the guy yet and he canceled for some reason and rescheduled and offered to pay for the one day of rental, I would have turned him down telling him I was there for me and not for him so he owed me nothing at all.

This is just one more reason I say to go to meet someone because you can afford to yourself and you want to be there anyway, with or without him. No expectations whatsoever. Just go and enjoy the time there whether things work out or not. Getting upset or angry about it or feeling someone owes you something is just stupid to me and says you were putting all your eggs in one basket and expecting things to work out.


but it wasn't about the money, the money didn't matter to me at all, it was about him making an offer/promise to me and keeping his word to me If the money had mattered I would have asked him about it, but it wasn't.. When you are in a relationship there are many things said/promised, like monogamy (& avoiding dreaded diseases, etc).. which if he doesn't keep his word about something simple like that, how can something important (like when he says you are the only one) be trusted? That was my point..

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/20/2013 11:25:35 AM   
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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/22/2013 11:27:34 AM   
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20 guys is a lot. As I stated, it's hard to find guys I am attracted to who are also into BBWs. That's one reason why I had to expand my search. Some of these guys may be kinky, but they also have to be dominant and not a sub or switch. In addition they have to be willing to be monogamous. And looking for more than a play partner. I have not dated 20 guys since I left my ex. Maybe 7-8. And of the ones I dated, maybe I liked 3-4. All but one were vanilla. The one who was kinky, told me he was a sub when we got to talking about the subject.
As to why I am overweight...I was always chubby. I have thyroid problems and I tend to gain weight easily. Although I have gained 20 lbs since I left my ex. I have an extremely high sex drive. I miss sex and domination with a guy a lot. My way of coping is food. When I am in a relationship I usually lose weight. I am about to start a new med that's supposed to help with that. I may just give up on finding a relationship and play with my ex when I am too desperate for sex. He already has 2 subs so that's not a perfect solution but maybe I am not meant to be in a relationship.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/22/2013 11:41:33 AM   
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PS if I was into casual sex, or just wanted to find somebody to play, it's not hard at all to find men to scratch the itch. Kinky men who just want a play partner are a dime a dozen

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/22/2013 8:19:23 PM   
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Sounds like he isn't really invested.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/23/2013 7:13:28 PM   
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When you are in a relationship there are many things said/promised, like monogamy (& avoiding dreaded diseases, etc).. which if he doesn't keep his word about something simple like that, how can something important (like when he says you are the only one) be trusted? That was my point..


And my point is that at that point I'm not in a relationship with him. He's just some guy I'm meeting for a coffee and nothing else at all. No expectations at all...not even showing up. He either does or doesn't. No big deal if I'm there for me and not for him.



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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 12/26/2013 2:15:56 PM   
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Long distance can be difficult and it is Best to stay local although if you live in a small town or rural area that can be a problem simply from the sheer lack of people that participate in the lifestyle. I have traveled over 50 miles once to meet a sub after many conversations and an OK from her former Master who was 1000 miles away from her. Other then that I have met some subs from areas where I was already planning to travel and had talked with a number of times, which did work out. well after meeting in a public place, etc.
The trust thing is difficult, especially for a sub whose goal is to be bound as part of the play.

The one thing I haven't been able to do is meet anyone when I planned month long vacations to Florida or Hawaii to escape the Northern winter. Maybe I should start establishing contacts for my trips farther in advance of my travel to allow time to establish trust.

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RE: Question about meeting Doms who are not local - 3/1/2014 6:40:19 AM   
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I've had more than a few women fly halfway around the world to meet me and stay with me, but... Huge BUT I'm a guy and have been doing this for decades. I also spent a great deal of time using chat and video chat until we were clear.

I also put on my most ridiculous face, asking for the things out on the limbs of "boy I would like to do that."

There was lots of clarification and graphic 'spelling it out in no uncertain terms', I was also generous in knowing some women in a moment of desperation will agree to anything. I was prepared for a completely vanilla non sexual encounter.

I find most people are sane and generally good people. The numbers of crazies is far lower than the government, police and newspapers would have us believe.

I am sure you can meet some real psychopaths this way, but then I think any good self respecting psychopath would be able to get through the average 'public' meeting-screening process. So we are back to an odds-numbers game.

All we have to do is look at the failed relationships and marriages to know we make more than our fair share of mistakes and granted being tied up helpless before being whipped and fucked senseless does rather place on in a more vulnerable than average position, still in my years, from blind meetings to the dating and swingers magazines to the net, I have sallied forth and found in general submissive women are either much smarter than average or barely human. They ae interesting, complex and funny people with a great desire to live and love life fully.

But then, I'm not in Texas.

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