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Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress

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No

59% (40)

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Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 8:56:55 AM

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Do you feel that the Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress sections should be renamed to reflect a more gender specific area for questions to be asked?

ETA - for example "Discussions About Female-Led Relationships" and "Discussions About Male-Led Relationships" ~ Chi

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 8:59:40 AM

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I think that its openness is a plus, not a minus. I post in ask a mistress and they post in ask a master, and to have the different genders aspects contributed to the conversations in each is far more light than heat.

Those are two fairly well behaved forums. Lotta good stuff comes out of there.

Mine was obviously a no, vote.

Unless I don't comprehend the question?

Unless you are saying ask a male dominant/ask a female dominant...but then why not ask a male slave/ask a female slave...... but then why not ask a male gay dominant, a male straight dominant, a male genderbender dominant, and same for female and slaves, and we are leaving some combonation out.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:06:21 AM

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I voted "No" and "Explain" because I don't see any reason to have those sections separated at all. Ask a Dominant would be a better counterpart to Ask A Submissive. There aren't a lot of issues with D/s (M/s) relationships that are gender specific. In addition, Ask A Mistress gets a lot of great input from submissive men. I would hate for those people to feel they couldn't contribute. I don't participate in Ask A Master as often but I know submissive women are valued contributors there.

If they get renamed at all, "Discussions About Female-Led Relationships" and "Discussions About Male-Led Relationships" might be the best options. That way the focus stays on those types of relationships, but it lets people know that they will be getting contributions from people on both sides of the kneel.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:09:58 AM

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Rename it to what? I haven't voted yet.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:15:24 AM

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For example, "Discussions About Female-Led Relationships" and "Discussions About Male-Led Relationships."

(Thanks, Syl)

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:20:11 AM

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In that case you'd have to expand it to four forums to include same-sex couples.

Besides which, and this is totally an artistic thought, there is no extra information conveyed by the new titles you suggest. I'm going to vote no.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:33:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: VideoAdminGamma

Do you feel that the Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress sections should be renamed to reflect a more gender specific area for questions to be asked?

ETA - for example "Discussions About Female-Led Relationships" and "Discussions About Male-Led Relationships" ~ Chi

I voted "yes" and "let me explain". So, I'll explain:

I think that when those sections were named it was pretty apparent that one was intended to be questions for male dominants and the other was intended to be questions for female dominants. But then a lot of people started showing up and wanting to argue simply for the sake of argument. You had women ranting about how they were "masters" because so-and-so had said they were masters. You had other people chiding people that they weren't "masters" because they didn't have enough experience to be considered a master. You have women going on about how they don't want to be considered a "mistress" for whatever reason. Regardless of exactly whom a poster wanted a response from everybody joined in "just because they could".

My preference would be to either unite them under something like "Questions For Dominants", or, if people posting the questions want gender specific answers then limit those sections to gender specific responders. And for gods sake cut all the petty nonsense crap about who can be called a Master and who can be called a Mistress.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:41:39 AM

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I see no reason to change. As they stand, the titles are a useful guide, without being exclusive to those categories. There is nothing to stop women posting in Ask a Master, and the reverse with Ask a Mistress. Equally subs can post there. It's all good.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:42:34 AM

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I went with 'yes' and 'let me explain'.

I'm agreeing with some of those above me - there's a lot of nit-picking about who is a 'master' and who is a 'mistress' and all the shades of grey in between (see what I did there? Sometimes I kill myself!

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Back on topic...I would tweak the wording slightly and call them 'ask a female dominant' or 'ask a male dominant' or something along those lines. I like the way those two groups work at the moment and I don't think we need to change the membership, just cool the (mild) bickering a little and make everyone feel included.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:52:11 AM

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I voted 'No'.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 9:56:39 AM

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I really don't see any great bickering in that "well I am a master" venue, it is so minimal that it won't be fixed by tweaks. Again, the issue will be then, what about those who are or identify as androgenous or hermaphroditics? You will give them compelling reasons to raise the flag.

If the idea is to change ask a master to ask a mistress, and ask a mistress to ask a master, then I think all you are doing is even more confusing than the present circumstance. (LOL, hadda do that one too).

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 10:03:30 AM

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You're right Ron, there's not a huge amount of bickering. But every now and then someone will argue that they don't like to refer to themselves as master or mistress, preferring more generic 'dominant' titles, and I do see their point.

I'm all for a harmonious little community (sorry - hadda throw in the 'community' thing too

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 10:26:18 AM

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Oh, yeah, but then the fallout will come from the gender of it. Because around here we dont offiicially recognize only two genders right? I mean you are exchanging a trivial and occasional irritant for a big problem in my estimation.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 11:26:49 AM

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Oh, yeah, but then the fallout will come from the gender of it. Because around here we dont offiicially recognize only two genders right? I mean you are exchanging a trivial and occasional irritant for a big problem in my estimation.

This was my thought too. Plus changing it will only draw further attention to the fact that apparently dominants of different genders require different sections, but submissives don't?

I'd be in favour of merging them into 'ask a dominant'

Or hell, even 'General D/s' to go with the General BDSM we already have. 95% of the questions in Ask A Sub or either of the Ask A Master/Mistress sections can benefit from points of view from both sides of the kneel.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 11:31:16 AM

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Yup, if any division would be of separate utilitarian value it would be dividing slaves into male female and so on, not the dominants.

Although I do not see a division necessary for male and female dominants, I really will not look forward to the 'what kind of grease does mistress use on her strapon' type of stuff.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 11:42:19 AM

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I voted no and let me explain. I don't think the ask a master, ask a mistress, ask a sub/slave and ask a switch sections are useful in the least.

My reasoning is that new people click on the forum button, they get the long list of subsections available. they scroll down to see the general BDSM sections, and then see ask a master, ask a mistress, etc.

This gives the new person the idea if they use ask a switch section let's say, that only switches will answer, and that's not the case.

It also *immediately* requires someone to put a label on their question, which is not terribly inclusive.

I would combine the all four sections into a more general ask advice section.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 12:01:27 PM

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I agree with ChatteParfaitt.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 12:28:11 PM

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I would combine the all four sections into a more general ask advice section.

If we do that, we might as well combine them all with General BDSM. There isn't much to differentiate "Ask A XYZ" from general discussion. Unless we made the Ask forums a single forum for "Relationship Advice" and turn "General" into something specific to questions about techniques or types of play.

I would be in favor of that sort of change. I would also be in favor of rewording the General forum subtitle so that it's more clear that it's intended for questions related to activities as opposed to relationships. We've had several relationship oriented questions there in the past.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 12:34:20 PM

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I would combine the all four sections into a more general ask advice section.

If we do that, we might as well combine them all with General BDSM. There isn't much to differentiate "Ask A XYZ" from general discussion. Unless we made the Ask forums a single forum for "Relationship Advice" and turn "General" into something specific to questions about techniques or types of play.

I would be in favor of that sort of change. I would also be in favor of rewording the General forum subtitle so that it's more clear that it's intended for questions related to activities as opposed to relationships. We've had several relationship oriented questions there in the past.

To me, this looks like the best solution.
Do away with the copious sections and replace them with a simpler, clearer variation.

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RE: Renaming Ask a Master and Ask a Mistress - 12/23/2013 12:37:01 PM

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I like the idea of combining the ask a master, mistress, sub and switch sections into one relationship advice section. I'm not sure it's such a good idea to turn general into something more specific. I think you need a general catch all section.

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