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Diabetes - 1/9/2014 6:35:11 PM

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Over the holidays I was informed I have type 2 diabetes. This was not expected. When I had a week long hospital stay in Feb of 2013, they said I was pre-diabetic and that losing weight would decrease my chances of getting it. With the help of medications to regulate my digestive system I lost 60 lbs by xmas.. and got the diabetes diagnosis.
I am once again in the regular people sizes, my eyesight has vastly improved over last year all good things. But I find I have a bit of an imbalance when I walk. It is almost like my center of gravity is off kilter.
Other than that, once I am able to restart my life kink-wise, what sort of things might I encounter?

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RE: Diabetes - 1/9/2014 8:21:57 PM

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Once The Man got his levels regulated he also found his eyes improved.

The main thing is that before you would have felt fine with a blood sugar in the upper 200's. Now that it's under control, you have to watch out for feeling faint if it gets low. In the beginning, he felt bad if it got below 110, these days it has to be below 85 for him to feel sick.

And if it gets above 160, then his mood is likely to turn ugly.

Playing, remember to bring protein bars to snack on. You use up a lot of body chemicals and passing out because your blood sugar tanks is not a good idea. Not during play, or while driving home afterwards. You have to pay attention to when you last ate and what it was.

A handful of nuts an hour before should be enough though.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/9/2014 8:36:13 PM

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I am not a doctor and don't know a lot about type II diabetes, but one of the things I am learning is that helth isn't just about weight, it is what we eat and how we eat it.....you may be down to a 'normal weight', but that doesn't mean your body is fit. In my own quest to alter my lifestyle and get into decent shape, I have come across people who had been diagnosed with type II diabetes, and they said that they were able with diet and fitness to get to the point where they no longer showed signs of it in tests......obviously, they could have been borderline, everyone is different, but you may want to do some research on diet and especially strength training, it could potentially mitigate some of the effects if what I have read is correct...I wish you luck!

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RE: Diabetes - 1/9/2014 8:55:02 PM

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I did notice that the last time I was able to play I really drooped about 30 mins after. I thought that protein bars had tons of sugar and would be bad for me, weird.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/9/2014 9:40:27 PM

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Check the packaging. Most of them do have loads of sugar. If you want high protein with low sugar/carb, look for Atkins or other diet brands and verify the nutritional values on the wrapper before consuming.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 10:14:57 AM

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I do know that for me, heavy exertion like exercise, but also heavy sex play makes me feel faint and famished and jittery. Like i am actually trembling. And find i am sometimes to weak n shaky to get up.
They make diabetic bars and diabetic meal replacement stuff. May try those perhaps. For a pick me up.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 10:15:48 AM

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In the pharmacy aisle of my market are some protein bars aimed at diabetics. I think the brand name is Glucerna. Otherwise a packet of almonds or cashews will give him energy at a steady level.

But it isn't just what you eat, it's how you respond to individual foods. And also to the amount of time between meals. Basically, something small every three - four hours. So eat half a sandwich at noon, and when you begin to flag around three, eat the other half. You want to avoid blood sugar swings.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 10:25:23 AM

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I had pancreatitis in 2008. Over the months after my recovery, my serum glucose and HG1AC levels creeped up and I was labeled as diabetic.

Some things I found out over the last few years that the doctor didn't bother to mention; if they even knew.

Most blood pressure medications raise the blood sugar level.
Metformin, most common oral blood sugar medication, sends the blood pressure up.
Be careful of being see-sawed into higher and higher dosages until the side effects are debilitating.

Before Metformin and the newer expensive blood pressure medications Niacin was used to lower blood sugar and blood pressure. The side effects can be rapid onset flushing of the skin and profuse sweating. (Yep, it can cause hot flashes) The only way to see if you can tolerate Niacin is to try it. OTC, and cheap. Discuss with your primary care in using Niacin in conjunction with prescription blood sugar medications. It can help.

I'm currently six months off of blood sugar medication with serum glucose levels 105-110. I take 500mg Niacin and a minimal dose of a blood pressure medication daily. Yea! No more terminal gas attacks and runs from Metformin.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 10:41:27 AM

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Type 2 diabetes is a bitch!
I've been a type 2 since 1999.
A type 2 means the insulin release is not consistent like normal people.
Sometime you'll get too much, other times it'll dip drastically.
The simple way to regulate your blood sugar is to eat regularly and often.
So that means small meals and as many as 6 or 7 every day.
Get yourself a blood sugar meter and start by checking it regularly - up to 8 times a day until you get used to which foods boost it off the scale and which ones don't.
In my case, I am supposed to avoid fried stuff, biscuits, processed foods, carbonated drinks, chocolate bars and very particularly - anything designated for diabetics!!

So everything in our diet is now home made from fresh ingredients - even biscuits and puddings.
I still take sugar in my tea & coffe but I avoid all carbonated drinks and processed foods.
I have to keep an eye on what I eat and how much I eat of any one thing.
Many diabetics are advised to avoid sugar and anything with sugar and to move solely onto sweeteners.
But the diabetic specialist I saw in FL told me that's a bad move because the body needs various sugars to convert into glucose for the muscles and energy.

You'll soon learn when your body is feeling low or high - you get used to it (it feels like you're getting drunk or very sleepy suddenly).
The first 6 months is awkward because you need to find out what triggers the insulin release and what doesn't affect it.
After that, you just keep a mental note on what you eat and drink and it becomes easy.

ETA: since following the specialist advice, I've not needed Metformin or any other medicine for my diabetes. Sure, it swings up and down but I can usually trace what has caused it and most times it is only small amounts (not like it used to be).

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 11:38:38 AM

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quote:

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I do know that for me, heavy exertion like exercise, but also heavy sex play makes me feel faint and famished and jittery. Like i am actually trembling. And find i am sometimes to weak n shaky to get up.
They make diabetic bars and diabetic meal replacement stuff. May try those perhaps. For a pick me up.

This is a very, very good point.
First relationship I had after I was diagnosed with diabetes, I found that sex (and I was still more or less vanilla at the time: D/s games are usually a lot more strenuous) was causing hypos. One piece of advice I was given was to eat some chocolate or something before starting. That wouldn't be practical for the OP, who has type 2, but maybe something with a few complex carbs that she can have in her system to absorb while she's being topped?

The main thing is that so long as missokyst remembers to take things steadily, and be careful, she'll be fine.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 3:29:45 PM

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Just to mention... the stress of a hospital stay or illness can temporarily cause diabetic symptoms even when you don't have the disease.. So by losing weight I would just check blood sugar occasionally and have a blood test every three months.

Some more advice is always take a walk right after a meal. That way the sugar will be metabolized quickly and not spend much time in the blood stream.

Butch

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 5:01:47 PM

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I have tried to read all the replies to see if anyone else has already mentioned it, but if I've missed it and it's already been said, I apologise!

Having diabetes both type I and type II in the family, we are fairly well versed in this illness. The interesting thing is that the doctors aren't really as clued up about it as they perhaps could be and through some various trials what is working for the members of my family is this:

Lots of protein and veg
Very limited carbs
Fat is fine (within reason, don't go mad!)

The most important thing is moderation though, ensuring you don't overeat and put weight on.
My mother who is insulin dependant found that she was able to drop her insulin to about 1/3 of her usual amount when cutting most carbs, which is rather amazing.
Some things make her blood sugar go through the roof though, such as pizza and milky puddings, like rice pudding (without any sugar in it at all, think it's mainly the milk and rice combo.)
So if you enjoy a variety of foods this is worth a try. I myself am a carb-oholic, and would die of starvation if I tried this, but thought I could at least pass on the suggestion!

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 5:03:47 PM

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Merc, I take Niacin in a flush free form. Just switched doctors and we get to have the lovely fasting bloodwork on the 24th. I am morbidly obese yet my blood sugar is always normal.

Right now I feel exhausted but that could be from the cold I have been experiencing.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 6:53:15 PM

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LOL darn it. All those things are what I love to feel. I used to just crave a glass of orange juice or two hersheys kisses to recover after heavy play.

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I do know that for me, heavy exertion like exercise, but also heavy sex play makes me feel faint and famished and jittery. Like i am actually trembling. And find i am sometimes to weak n shaky to get up.
They make diabetic bars and diabetic meal replacement stuff. May try those perhaps. For a pick me up.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 6:55:20 PM

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Chia seeds are great.

I add them to greek yogurt with low-glycemic berries.
They are high fiber, have protein and healthy fats.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 7:07:44 PM

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I have been eating mostly veg and proteins. I am also a carb-o-holic and cutting those down has been difficult. When ever I brought up my diet to med professionals they tell me cut sweets, cookies, cakes, candy. Phhht. The only time I eat candy is sparingly after heavy play. Otherwise I am not someone who craves sweets.
Today I finally got around to getting a testing kit and all the supplies that go along with it. I had to wait till payday because my insurance will cover a 30 day supply per month and those things are sold in 50 day supplies.. so basically the coverage means NOT covered. What a catch 22.
It will be interesting to see how my sugar changes over the course of the day. Yesterday I had one spinach salad with tuna, lots of tea w/o sugar and nothing else.. The most frustrating thing for me has been that in the years I was gaining weight the professionals assumed it was over eating.
I might have as much as 1000 calories per day and still gain. I was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO happy when they gave me some meds to fix that. Now I find I cannot take my Metformin and the Lactulose with out extreme pain in my abdomen. Frankly I would rather avoid the Metformin because that Lactulose was a life saver.

Tonight I start taking the nightly dose of Metformin as prescribed. :(

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ORIGINAL: ante

I have tried to read all the replies to see if anyone else has already mentioned it, but if I've missed it and it's already been said, I apologise!

Having diabetes both type I and type II in the family, we are fairly well versed in this illness. The interesting thing is that the doctors aren't really as clued up about it as they perhaps could be and through some various trials what is working for the members of my family is this:

Lots of protein and veg
Very limited carbs
Fat is fine (within reason, don't go mad!)

The most important thing is moderation though, ensuring you don't overeat and put weight on.
My mother who is insulin dependant found that she was able to drop her insulin to about 1/3 of her usual amount when cutting most carbs, which is rather amazing.
Some things make her blood sugar go through the roof though, such as pizza and milky puddings, like rice pudding (without any sugar in it at all, think it's mainly the milk and rice combo.)
So if you enjoy a variety of foods this is worth a try. I myself am a carb-oholic, and would die of starvation if I tried this, but thought I could at least pass on the suggestion!

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 7:09:14 PM

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Darn it. I am not allowed any sort of seeds.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/10/2014 7:32:01 PM

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Miss, protein counteracts carbs to an extent. So if you are craving a piece of chocolate or something sweet after play, have it along with a protein source: grab-n-go like hard-boiled egg, string cheese, unsweetened high-protein greek yogurt. That'll help moderate the sugar effects.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/11/2014 4:51:59 PM

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I can see how lactulose and metformin may make for an uncomfortable tummy:
Metformin can cause gastric distress which excess sugar can make worse; lactulose is a sugar.

There isn't a listed drug interaction between them but that doesn't mean you don't have one.

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RE: Diabetes - 1/11/2014 6:09:44 PM

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We don't play as long or as hard as we used to. We don't do four hour sessions. Hour/hour and a half more likely. Then a break for water and a healthy snack or a light meal. And then we might play again later. But in addition to health concerns we're a lot older than we used to be.

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