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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And to treat a child this way is unconscionable -- it's bullying, by people who should know better.

In other food news, this just in:

2-year-old suspended from daycare for cheese sandwich

Yeah, you read it right.

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Ridiculous!
Our school provides peanut butter and jelly and milk to students who's PARENTS debt has become excessive. TO give them the food, then take it away, is like the moronic leader of the century. What a caring bunch, spreading the love. hahaha.
I think parents hold the responsibility to make sure debts are paid, if you have a child who isn't very responsible, the parent should be taking that responsibility and giving the child a shift kick for not paying the debt, if they spent the money on something else.
The truth is a simple responsible phone call of parents can change things, not ignoring bills in the mail.
You know what happens a lot of times on reduced lunch programs and free lunch programs? THE PARENTS ARE TO LAZY TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK. They don't have the money to pay the bill that racks up, because they don't sign up for the program. Of course there is also people who have ignorance of it, are taught about it, then know later. But it happens a lot, and that isn't the kids fault.

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And to treat a child this way is unconscionable -- it's bullying, by people who should know better.

In other food news, this just in:

2-year-old suspended from daycare for cheese sandwich

Yeah, you read it right.

K.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Ridiculous!
Our school provides peanut butter and jelly and milk to students who's PARENTS debt has become excessive. TO give them the food, then take it away, is like the moronic leader of the century. What a caring bunch, spreading the love. hahaha.
I think parents hold the responsibility to make sure debts are paid, if you have a child who isn't very responsible, the parent should be taking that responsibility and giving the child a shift kick for not paying the debt, if they spent the money on something else.
The truth is a simple responsible phone call of parents can change things, not ignoring bills in the mail.
You know what happens a lot of times on reduced lunch programs and free lunch programs? THE PARENTS ARE TO LAZY TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK. They don't have the money to pay the bill that racks up, because they don't sign up for the program. Of course there is also people who have ignorance of it, are taught about it, then know later. But it happens a lot, and that isn't the kids fault.

The problem arises when a parent's debt isn't seen until after the child has gotten food. The lunch lady doling out the food isn't necessarily aware of the account standing of the kid in front of her. By the time the kid gets to the "cashier," the food has been served. That's where things went wrong. It's a tough spot the cafeteria workers are put in. I'm not saying the behavior was okay. Not by any stretch. A better procedure needs to be determined and instituted.

How would you correct the situation?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Ridiculous!
Our school provides peanut butter and jelly and milk to students who's PARENTS debt has become excessive. TO give them the food, then take it away, is like the moronic leader of the century. What a caring bunch, spreading the love. hahaha.
I think parents hold the responsibility to make sure debts are paid, if you have a child who isn't very responsible, the parent should be taking that responsibility and giving the child a shift kick for not paying the debt, if they spent the money on something else.
The truth is a simple responsible phone call of parents can change things, not ignoring bills in the mail.
You know what happens a lot of times on reduced lunch programs and free lunch programs? THE PARENTS ARE TO LAZY TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK. They don't have the money to pay the bill that racks up, because they don't sign up for the program. Of course there is also people who have ignorance of it, are taught about it, then know later. But it happens a lot, and that isn't the kids fault.

The problem arises when a parent's debt isn't seen until after the child has gotten food. The lunch lady doling out the food isn't necessarily aware of the account standing of the kid in front of her. By the time the kid gets to the "cashier," the food has been served. That's where things went wrong. It's a tough spot the cafeteria workers are put in. I'm not saying the behavior was okay. Not by any stretch. A better procedure needs to be determined and instituted.
How would you correct the situation?

Yes we have laws and policies, but we also have common sense if used. This is a matter of right or wrong, and when following a policy becomes stupid. DO the right thing, let them keep the food, don't throw it in the trash. That's insane. This is when parents, and staff, and children need to take responsibility. How would I correct it? Unfortunatley I cant, and have no answers, other then its a joint effort.

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• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
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• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
Ridiculous!
Our school provides peanut butter and jelly and milk to students who's PARENTS debt has become excessive. TO give them the food, then take it away, is like the moronic leader of the century. What a caring bunch, spreading the love. hahaha.
I think parents hold the responsibility to make sure debts are paid, if you have a child who isn't very responsible, the parent should be taking that responsibility and giving the child a shift kick for not paying the debt, if they spent the money on something else.
The truth is a simple responsible phone call of parents can change things, not ignoring bills in the mail.
You know what happens a lot of times on reduced lunch programs and free lunch programs? THE PARENTS ARE TO LAZY TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK. They don't have the money to pay the bill that racks up, because they don't sign up for the program. Of course there is also people who have ignorance of it, are taught about it, then know later. But it happens a lot, and that isn't the kids fault.

The problem arises when a parent's debt isn't seen until after the child has gotten food. The lunch lady doling out the food isn't necessarily aware of the account standing of the kid in front of her. By the time the kid gets to the "cashier," the food has been served. That's where things went wrong. It's a tough spot the cafeteria workers are put in. I'm not saying the behavior was okay. Not by any stretch. A better procedure needs to be determined and instituted.
How would you correct the situation?

Yes we have laws and policies, but we also have common sense if used. This is a matter of right or wrong, and when following a policy becomes stupid. DO the right thing, let them keep the food, don't throw it in the trash. That's insane. This is when parents, and staff, and children need to take responsibility. How would I correct it? Unfortunatley I cant, and have no answers, other then its a joint effort.

I think they were wrong in what they did to the kid. Yes, the parents and staff (the kids don't always have any involvement) need to take responsibility. But, how do we improve policies to prevent this in the future? How many times do we allow the kid to go through the line and not take food away before we stop allowing it? Once we get to that point, how do we stop the kid from getting food?

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I will never have a policy to prevent a child from getting food. Hit the irresponsible parents where it hurts, because there are people out there, that don't care how their own child is being effected only how they are effected. Some kids go home to NO FOOD at home. Sad but true.

• A Conservative interpretation of the US Constitution
  
• Personal Responsibility
  
• Help for the truly needy
  
• Limited Government
  
• Consumption Tax (non-profit charities and food exempt)
  

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri

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ORIGINAL: chatterbox24
I will never have a policy to prevent a child from getting food. Hit the irresponsible parents where it hurts, because there are people out there, that don't care how their own child is being effected only how they are effected. Some kids go home to NO FOOD at home. Sad but true.

The kid got food.

How do you hit irresponsible parents where it hurts? They are already not keeping up with the payments. What makes you think they are going to be any better at paying a penalty?

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ORIGINAL: freedomdwarf1

FR~

I think half the problem is the way things are implemented over there.

Over here, most schools issue dinner tickets (a bit like cloakroom tickets).
Those on a free school meals program are known to the school and the kids are issued them free.
Other kids need to pay for their dinner tickets.
This is usually done on a weekly basis and usually first thing on a Monday morning.

The major difference being, there is no cashier at the end of the line like in a cafeteria.
The kids hand over their ticket when they enter the dining area otherwise they can't get in.
Essentially, no ticket means no lunch from the cafeteria. Simple!
This method saves a lot of embarrassment like this incident caused.

We've had this method for decades here and it has many advantages.
Like many things in the US, some are great, some are just stupid or invite problems.

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ORIGINAL: MercTech

If you actually look at the budget for a school district you will find that all school lunches are subsidized but a portion is required to be paid by the persons being fed unless granted a waiver by application claiming poverty. It varies regionally and some areas there are no hot lunches but the kids bring their lunch in a lunchbox.

Most areas that do provide hot lunches for students do so on a no margin at cost manner out of the cheapest low bid ingredients they can get. (I still have nightmares about school lunches. I can't even look at rutabega after being forced to eat a school lunch serving of them that smelled like fermented sweatsocks.)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Aylee

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

And to treat a child this way is unconscionable -- it's bullying, by people who should know better.

In other food news, this just in:

2-year-old suspended from daycare for cheese sandwich

Yeah, you read it right.

Wow.

The couple of mornings that my son was still munching on something when he went into daycare he was just sat at a table to finish it. They do serve breakfast to the kids but sometimes he was hungry before we headed out.

Exactly. Yet even with MM's comment as a hint, some people just can't seem to get it.

I suppose we can only hope they don't breed.

K.