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In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 5:16:09 PM

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Based in the biblical scripture "they will take up serpents" a group of fundamentalist Christians routinely handle poisonous snakes during their services. The idea is that if your faith is strong enough, you wont get bit, or if you are bit, you will suffer no ill effects...

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Jamie Coots, co-star of ‘Snake Salvation,’ dies of a snakebite

Pastor Jamie Coots, a serpent-handling pastor and co-star of the “Snake Salvation” reality television show, died Saturday (Feb. 15) after suffering a snakebite during a church service. He was 42.

Coots, pastor of the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Ky., was found dead at his house around 10 p.m.

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Okay, personally, I believe that faith can move mountains, in a manner of speaking, but this belief tends to lend credence to my theory that humanity is getting more and more stupid.

Thoughts?

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 5:19:16 PM

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Based in the biblical scripture "they will take up serpents" a group of fundamentalist Christians routinely handle poisonous snakes during their services. The idea is that if your faith is strong enough, you wont get bit, or if you are bit, you will suffer no ill effects...

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Jamie Coots, co-star of ‘Snake Salvation,’ dies of a snakebite
Pastor Jamie Coots, a serpent-handling pastor and co-star of the “Snake Salvation” reality television show, died Saturday (Feb. 15) after suffering a snakebite during a church service. He was 42.
Coots, pastor of the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Ky., was found dead at his house around 10 p.m.
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Okay, personally, I believe that faith can move mountains, in a manner of speaking, but this belief tends to lend credence to my theory that humanity is getting more and more stupid.
Thoughts?

The snake must have been the wrong denomination.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 5:31:03 PM

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Their idea is right.

Darwin's theory of evolution through natural selection was also right.

Obviously, thanks to these snake handlers, the frequency of stupid alleles in the population decreases.

As long as they continue their snake handling, therefore, the human species will become ever less stupid.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 5:51:18 PM

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Yeah.....that's just God's way of weeding out the stupid.....

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:17:50 PM

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Was the snake ok???? was it harmed?

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:23:36 PM

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I can appreciate where they're coming from, but God made me smart enough to leave poisonous things alone! I think Lucylastic posted tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think it's wise to terrorize any of God's creatures to prove your faith.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:26:41 PM

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Yes it was tongue in cheek.....I happen to like snakes...but yes, tongue in cheek

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:29:12 PM

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I can appreciate where they're coming from, but God made me smart enough to leave poisonous things alone! I think Lucylastic posted tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think it's wise to terrorize any of God's creatures to prove your faith.

I agree, it is unwise to piss off lions, tigers, bears, crocodiles, alligators, women, sharks, cougar (feline and human,) snakes, wolves, honey badgers, jaguars, panthers and women.

Did I mention women?

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:30:57 PM

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Yes it was tongue in cheek.....I happen to like snakes...but yes, tongue in cheek

And here I thought it was an excellent example of having the right priorities!

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 6:34:58 PM

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Id rather have a snake over some humans:) and most animals over humans for that matter

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 7:00:11 PM

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Was the snake ok????

LOL !!!

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 7:21:04 PM

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On a more serious note, I'm always puzzled by why folks zero in on that one saying of Jesus with a literalism not applied to the rest of the Gospels.

Found a church website that makes the point better than I could:

Why Does Jesus Say His Disciples 'Will Take Up Serpents' (Mark 16:18)?

The author says, "Deliberately handling poisonous snakes or drinking deadly liquids expecting God's protection is definitely contrary to Christ's teachings."

Disclaimer: I know nothing about this church or its other teachings. I just think they're right about snake-handling.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/17/2014 10:18:40 PM

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The author says, "Deliberately handling poisonous snakes or drinking deadly liquids expecting God's protection is definitely contrary to Christ's teachings."

Having read the link, obviously old Coots had tempted too much the Lord his God.

K.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 1:27:33 AM

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I'm not sure I buy the "getting more stupid" part: the snake handling baptists have been up to this crap for a long time now.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 1:44:56 AM

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I already had a post about this in humor because I didn't want to get into the P&R mud-slinging but, I have to admit that my posting it in "Humor" was a bit cold.

I try my level-best to not make fun of others' religious beliefs for a couple of reasons; A) I just don't think it's right to do and 2) it separates me from the knuckle-dragging God haters.

However, this guy obviously missed the point that someone brought up earlier. I was raised to believe that presumption is a sin. To do something dangerous, thinking: "Well, my Lord and savior will protect me" is tantamount to presuming to know what the almighty is thinking. Not a good idea.

I was reminded of (I think it was Robbie Kneivel?) the guy that walked a tightrope across part of the Grand Canyon and the whole way, he was mumbling, asking Jesus to protect him and how he was doing this to show the world that his Lord and savior wouldn't let him fail, blah, blah, blah.

At one point, I almost found myself hoping he'd fall just to show what a stupid idea presumption is. Instead of indulging that thought, I changed the channel.

To me, this kind of attitude harkens back to the old rallying cry of "Christians aren't perfect. They're forgiven". Well, that's crap, too.

Ostensibly, if one claims to be Christian, they are saying that they are trying to be Christ-like. No one expects perfection but it's amazing to me how many fall so short of the mark so often.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 6:36:39 AM

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Okay, personally, I believe that faith can move mountains, in a manner of speaking,

But only figurative mountains, literally it's not moving jack shit and has the same medicinal effect as a sugar pill.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 6:50:16 AM

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I'm not sure I buy the "getting more stupid" part: the snake handling baptists have been up to this crap for a long time now.

They are not Baptists. They usually reject all denominations as human made and as carrying the corrupt by the devil. And it's not that old it seems to have started in the early 20th century with a preacher named Hensley.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Went_Hensley

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 6:55:56 AM

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The early 20th century is quite old. We're talking a century back now, after all. This nonsense is as old as fountain pens and safety razors, and that's old.

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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 9:41:19 AM

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I can appreciate where they're coming from, but God made me smart enough to leave poisonous things alone! I think Lucylastic posted tongue-in-cheek, but I don't think it's wise to terrorize any of God's creatures to prove your faith.

I agree, it is unwise to piss off lions, tigers, bears, crocodiles, alligators, women, sharks, cougar (feline and human,) snakes, wolves, honey badgers, jaguars, panthers and women.

Did I mention women?

You forgot wolverines, pound for pound more unwise to "piss off" than any other animal, oh and women too.
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RE: In the name of religion... - 2/18/2014 1:30:16 PM

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Someone rightly pointed out to me in a private message that some of God's creatures (the bi-pedal kind) like to be terrorized!!

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