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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 3:30:25 AM

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My brother works 6 days a week, a neighbor helps him out (he loaned my brother the tractor and disc for the fields) and my brother does the tilling. I want him to till up a patch over here for me so I can raise some vegetables (tomatoes, beans, squash, herbs). I showed Mom the Paleo diet website and she was going "I'll be damned". At least we can use olive oil for our cooking. We decided to give our Hamburger Helpers to my brother, get more nuts and stock up on green beans (until they start growing). Last year was a bad year for pecans...drought.

One thing for sure...I am NOT eating avacodas(?).

Yes, up early again...just can't find the right position and worried about my procedure coming on Friday.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 5:13:42 AM

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Kali, I had the desk clerk write the diet down so we can post it on the fridge.

Breakfast: 1 fruit (raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, strawberries, melon, pear), 2 handfuls of nuts (almonds, walnuts, pecans)

4 - 8 oz (deck of cards) protein (lean beef, chicken, fish)

greens: spinach, collards greens, kale

1 cup of green beans (rinsed and washed)

everything grilled, broiled, steamed

NO SOY/MILK PROTEIN

NO PROCESSED FOODS

I have been going against GMO foods for a while. Texas does not have a labeling law yet so it is hard to tell which is good and which is bad (unless you go to an organic food stand or farmer's market). I can't eat berries because of the seeds getting stuck in my teeth. I have to get baking pecans because the ones sold in a can are salted...and I avoid as much salt as possible.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 5:42:07 AM

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I'm always happy to help people learn how to avoid GMOs :)

Processed foods, soy, and corn (grain) are not allowed on the Paleo diet anyway, so this first part is not a concern for you while you are Paleoing:

In the U.S., GMOs are in as much as 80% of conventional processed food. Most processed foods contain something derived from corn or soy, and in 2011, 88% of US corn was GMO and 94% of US soy was GMO.

So unless your processed food specifically says that it is non GMO, odds are that it does contain some GMO ingredients.

http://www.nongmoproject.org/learn-more/what-is-gmo/

High-Risk Crops (in commercial production; ingredients derived from these must be tested every time prior to use in Non-GMO Project Verified products (as of December 2011):

- Alfalfa (first planting 2011)
- Canola (approx. 90% of U.S. crop)
- Corn (approx. 88% of U.S. crop in 2011)
- Cotton (approx. 90% of U.S. crop in 2011)
- Papaya (most of Hawaiian crop; approximately 988 acres)
- Soy (approx. 94% of U.S. crop in 2011)
- Sugar Beets (approx. 95% of U.S. crop in 2010)
- Zucchini and Yellow Summer Squash (approx. 25,000 acres)

Listed in Appendix B of the Non-GMO Project Standard are a number of high-risk inputs, including those derived from GMO microorganisms, the above crops or animals fed these crops or their derivatives.

Monitored Crops (those for which suspected or known incidents of contamination have occurred, and those crops which have genetically modified relatives in commercial production with which cross-pollination is possible; we test regularly to assess risk, and move to “High-Risk” category for ongoing testing if we see contamination):

- Beta vulgaris (e.g., chard, table beets)
- Brassica napa (e.g., rutabaga, Siberian kale)
- Brassica rapa (e.g., bok choy, mizuna, Chinese cabbage, turnip, rapini, tatsoi)
- Curcubita (acorn squash, delicata squash, patty pan)
- Flax
- Rice
- Wheat

Common Ingredients Derived from GMO Risk Crops

Amino Acids, Aspartame, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate, Vitamin C, Citric Acid, Sodium Citrate, Ethanol, Flavorings (“natural” and “artificial”), High-Fructose Corn Syrup, Hydrolyzed Vegetable Protein, Lactic Acid, Maltodextrins, Molasses, Monosodium Glutamate, Sucrose, Textured Vegetable Protein (TVP), Xanthan Gum, Vitamins, Yeast Products.

http://www.nongmoproject.org/find-non-gmo/search-participating-products/

Browse by Category or Brand; Search by Name

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 6:07:13 AM

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I thought I toss this app for smart phones into the ring

http://www.nongmoproject.org/find-non-gmo/iphone-app-shopping-guide/

In LA I downloaded a similar one (can't remember the name and the US phone is in a box somewhere) where you could scan the label and it told you if it contains GMO, or any of the ingredients are GMO

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 6:16:47 AM

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I am trying to kick aspartame (diet MD) off of my diet, doctor said more eggs but the place that used to sell free range eggs closed down so we have to get regular eggs from the store.

Kraft says it is not going to have GMO products now so we can get our sliced cheese for our sandwiches. Mom is a bit upset about not having grains...she likes to have a bowl of oatmeal about every other day. I got a large canister of oatmeal myself so I eat 2 or 3 bowls a week because I can control the sugar and butter (I hate putting milk in mine bowl). We use Blue Bonnet butter...real butter if we are baking something. Mom bakes a lot of cakes but I might have a slice or two...depending on what it is. I am a chocolate addict...I would buy a giant bar of Hersheys special dark chocolate and make that last for weeks.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 6:51:16 AM

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My cell phone has no apps...just a plain flip I picked up a few years ago for traveling emergencies (in case I go to Austin or Mom goes to Arkansas). If my SIL or brother can't get us at home, they call the cell. It has a voicemail option and some text but I ignore all texts.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/25/2014 7:36:56 PM

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Kraft says it is not going to have GMO products now so we can get our sliced cheese for our sandwiches.

Don't you mean "sandwiches" as you cannot have dairy or wheat bread?

Kraft is pulling GMOs from their EU products, but I couldn't find anything about them making changes to GMOs in cheese.

They are doing this:

Kraft removes artificial preservative from some American slices

February 10, 2014

Kraft Foods is taking an artificial preservative out of some of its individually-wrapped Kraft Singles slices, the latest move by a major food seller to clean up its Iist of ingredients.

Kraft is removing sorbic acid from the American and White American varieties, the Northfield-based company confirmed on Monday. It is adding a mold inhibitor, natamycin, and a proprietary, unnamed ingredient for food safety.

“We know families today want convenient foods that have no artificial preservatives and a simpler, more recognizable ingredient list, and Kraft is working to deliver more of these options for some of our most beloved brands,” Brian Gelb, a senior associate brand manager for Kraft Foods, said in a statement.

According to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, natamycin is an antifungal that can be applied on cheese. Sorbic acid is generally recognized as safe by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

The move comes two years after Kraft started advertising that Kraft Singles have “no artificial flavors.”

Other food sellers are also trying to promote their products in ways that may appeal to health-conscious, label-reading consumers.

Last week, the Subway sandwich chain said that it would stop using azodiacarbonamide, a chemical used in the production of foamed plastics like yoga mats and rubber-soled shoes, in its bread. Subway has used the ingredient as a bread conditioner, to whiten the dough and allow bread to bake faster.

For now, the change applies to the American and White American varieties of Kraft Singles, and not to the 2% milk varieties.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 5:05:30 AM

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We always brought the American slices...next to having calcium pills, we have to have another way to get calcium in. Mom knows that I loathe soy products. Mom says we will still get shredded cheese and Velveeta cheese because the kids demand mac and cheese every time they are over here (not to mention pizza,,,,our freezer is stuffed with pizza for overnight stays).

After my procedure Friday, I will get the almond milk...that is when I get my check. Mom does not get hers until the 3rd.

What about using Greek yogurt as a sour cream sub? I remember a friend who when I stayed with her using it in her dishes (she was also doing gluten free, no red meat unless Bo cooked it on the grill...I always lost weight when I was living with her).

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 5:41:22 AM

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Needing dairy products for calcium is a myth brought to you by the dairy lobby.

Calcium and Milk

Calcium is important. But milk isn’t the only, or even best, source.

It’s not a news flash that calcium is key for healthy bones. Getting enough calcium from childhood through adulthood helps build bones up and then helps slow the loss of bone as we age. It’s not clear, though, that we need as much calcium as is generally recommended, and it’s also not clear that dairy products are really the best source of calcium for most people.

While calcium and dairy can lower the risk of osteoporosis and colon cancer, high intake can increase the risk of prostate cancer and possibly ovarian cancer.

Plus, dairy products can be high in saturated fat as well as retinol (vitamin A), which at high levels can paradoxically weaken bones.

Good, non-dairy sources of calcium include collards, bok choy, fortified soy milk, baked beans, and supplements that contain both calcium and vitamin D (a better choice than taking calcium alone).

Read the full article on calcium and milk.

Read more: http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/what-should-you-eat/calcium-and-milk/

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 5:52:28 AM

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The Calcium Myth: Dairy's Big White Lie

The dairy industry has long held that milk is the best and most reliable source of calcium. Unfortunately, that's just not true.

Why do you drink milk? Odds are, it’s because you grew up drinking milk at home and in school, where you were taught that it’s loaded with calcium, which helped your bones grow big and strong. Of course, kale, beans, and figs all have oodles of calcium, too–but unlike dairy, they don’t have millions of dollars in marketing budgets to ensure that families everywhere believe they’re essential for human development. Milk, on the other hand, has a a powerful lobbying effort that guarantees if we all know only one thing about dairy, it’s that it’s calcium-rich. If you still think “milk = calcium” as a grown-up, you may not be “doing the body good,” but you are doing the National Dairy Council proud.

The fact is, you didn’t just get a little carton of milk on your lunch tray because it’s the most sustainable, easily-digested, rich source of calcium–it isn’t. You drank it, and were taught about it, because the National Dairy Council has close ties to the FDA and USDA, who decide what to serve in schools as part of a “healthy” diet. The prevalence of milk may have started as a way to deliver calories and nutrients, but the fact is, dairy just isn’t the be-all, end-all of calcium that the NDC would like us to believe it is. Does it deliver calcium, which is important for growing children? Yes. Are there better, more nutritious, more eco-friendly ways to get it? Definitely.

Milk is heavily subsidized by the government, which means that both the government and the dairy council have a vested interest in getting people to associate milk with a healthy diet. It also means the Dairy Council has a lot of sway over what people learn. Learning that milk is part of a balanced diet is part of every school kid’s curriculum, whether it’s true or not.

But in the past decade, there have been dozens of salient studies about milk–which is, keep in mind, meant for baby cows to drink, not human adults and children. They’ve investigated how it’s absorbed, how it works in the body, and what it’s really good for. And in the end, nearly all have concluded that, regardless of what the Dairy Council says, milk simply isn’t the best source of calcium. There’s just too much else in it.

Read more: http://www.blisstree.com/2012/01/31/food/nutrition/dairy-milk-calcium-myth-741/#ixzz2uR5rh6eI

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 5:54:03 AM

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What about using Greek yogurt as a sour cream sub? I remember a friend who when I stayed with her using it in her dishes (she was also doing gluten free, no red meat unless Bo cooked it on the grill...I always lost weight when I was living with her).

I'm not going to discuss substituting one diary product for another on a thread where your doctor told you and your mother no milk protein.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 6:04:21 AM

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Mom says we will still get shredded cheese and Velveeta cheese because the kids demand mac and cheese every time they are over here (not to mention pizza,,,,our freezer is stuffed with pizza for overnight stays).

I see women sabotage themselves like this all the time..."I have it in the house for the kids."

Stopping eating dairy represents a lot of change. It's scary. I get it.

No dairy = no dairy.

Try it for a month. It won't kill you, and may only make you stronger.

You wouldn't believe the variety of cheese I use. Yet, last year I went dairy free for 40 days for a particular, time-limited purpose. I planned for this and stopped buying cheese ahead of time, and gave the rest to my neighbor and mother.

How about this - tell your doctor that plunging in to the Paleo diet represents too much change and y'all can't do it all at once. What's the single most important change for you to make this month? What change should you add the following month?

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 11:04:31 AM

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We always brought the American slices...

Kraft American singles....they are a processed food and most diets recommend staying away from them. Generally, the harder the cheese the better it is for paleo/reduced carb diets.

As far as shredded cheese, you're better off buying a block and shredding it yourself. Commercially shredded cheeses are coated in starch to prevent sticking.

But Kali is right...substitution won't achieve anything. It can trigger cravings and it disrupts the balance of the diet.

And finally oatmeal: The quicker it cooks, the less good it is for you. So, long cooking oatmeal is better for you and steel cut oatmeal is the of it.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 9:50:37 PM

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It may take some time to wrap your head around, but I don't often eat potatoes, either. I have found (don't laugh) cauliflower can work as substitute is some dishes. Do a Google search on faux or mock potatoes. You can even make "Just Like Loaded Baked Potatoes". It's not the same, of course, but if you can't have the real thing you might be pleasantly surprised.

Mashed cauliflower is pretty tasty (as is roasted cauliflower brushed with olive oil). I make it with milk and a little butter, but soy/almond milk and a little vegetable oil might be good too.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 2/26/2014 9:59:31 PM

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I'm not keen on beans/pulses/lentils and stuff generally in health food stores etc but we use fresh veggies.
Sometimes our budget for food shopping is as little as £8 ($13) for the week for 3 adults.
Generally, its about £20 ($32) and yes, we make it work!!

Honest question - what do you buy for that much? $13 would get me, let's see... a large onion, a pound bag of carrots, 2 tomatoes, 1 lb of broccoli, 1 lb bag of rice, 1 lb bag of lentils, and a block of tofu. That'd make 3 dinners for the two of us. I can't imagine how'd stretch that to a week for 3 people, unless you're buying a lot of ramen.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 3/2/2014 3:27:10 AM

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We went grocery shopping yesterday and did you know that almond milk has cane sugar in it? Mom says we are sticking to 2% milk and creamer for her coffee. Did not get all we wanted because Mom's SS does not come in until Monday...she spent most of the rent money I gave her on food...I got to get pills on Monday after her follow-up on her procedure. We did pick up a lot of protein, green beans, salad...nuts are a bit expensive.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 3/2/2014 4:09:55 AM

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We went grocery shopping yesterday and did you know that almond milk has cane sugar in it? Mom says we are sticking to 2% milk and creamer for her coffee. Did not get all we wanted because Mom's SS does not come in until Monday...she spent most of the rent money I gave her on food...I got to get pills on Monday after her follow-up on her procedure. We did pick up a lot of protein, green beans, salad...nuts are a bit expensive.

Not all almond milk has sugar in it.
They do have unsweetend ones.

I think if your mom is unwilling to follow the diet she should let her Dr. know.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 3/2/2014 1:55:23 PM

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We went grocery shopping yesterday and did you know that almond milk has cane sugar in it? Mom says we are sticking to 2% milk and creamer for her coffee. Did not get all we wanted because Mom's SS does not come in until Monday...she spent most of the rent money I gave her on food...I got to get pills on Monday after her follow-up on her procedure. We did pick up a lot of protein, green beans, salad...nuts are a bit expensive.

Not all almond milk has sugar in it.
They do have unsweetend ones.

I think if your mom is unwilling to follow the diet she should let her Dr. know.

angelika is correct, you can get unsweetened almond milk. And I suggest you read the ingredients on the creamer because most contain corn syrup.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 3/3/2014 9:16:31 AM

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Not all almond milk has sugar in it.
They do have unsweetend ones.

I think if your mom is unwilling to follow the diet she should let her Dr. know.

Agreed with all of the above, especially mom informing the doctor that she is not going to follow the diet.

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RE: Kali, some help here... - 3/3/2014 9:26:20 AM

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We did pick up a lot of protein, green beans, salad...nuts are a bit expensive.

How much for a pound of nuts? I've found that Walmart has reasonable prices for walnuts, like around $7/#. Factor in that a serving size of nuts (1 oz) is four times smaller that a serving size of meat (4 oz.)

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