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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

So, BamaD didn't use this thread to promote an agenda, but you do? Lol, that's just funny XD so you think all the people who got stabbed should have had knives as well? Or guns? Because in that case what would have stopped the attackers from having guns? How many more people would have died because they would have been able to shoot more people at further distances? Think of it, if that many people were hurt by knives, how many more would have received gun shots which would have been fatal? Also, how often do these knifing a happen? A hell of a lot more rarely than American shootings, that's for sure, hence Lucy's previous post.[8|]

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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

Like a cross on the door to ward away evil spirits. Yeah, lets do some actual scientific studies and put these silly gun nut beliefs to actual tests. Maybe there is something to those beliefs, and many its all just bullshit Maybe something in between. I do know BamaD would be against such studies. He's deathly afraid of such science.

They've been done and they come down on our side.
And this is still derailment.
You and not Lovmuffin made gun control a topic.

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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

Like a cross on the door to ward away evil spirits. Yeah, lets do some actual scientific studies and put these silly gun nut beliefs to actual tests. Maybe there is something to those beliefs, and many its all just bullshit Maybe something in between. I do know BamaD would be against such studies. He's deathly afraid of such science.

They've been done and they come down on our side.
And this is still derailment.
You and not Lovmuffin made gun control a topic.

But I didn't mention gun. I just said "arm yourself". I could have meant a sword, an assault sword though I would rather have a gun. OOPs.....sorry Bama, I did it again. [;)]

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You are forgiven.

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You are forgiven.

Thanks for that, I just couldn't help myself. I like guns.......Fuck [sm=anger.gif]

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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

So, BamaD didn't use this thread to promote an agenda, but you do? Lol, that's just funny XD so you think all the people who got stabbed should have had knives as well? Or guns? Because in that case what would have stopped the attackers from having guns? How many more people would have died because they would have been able to shoot more people at further distances? Think of it, if that many people were hurt by knives, how many more would have received gun shots which would have been fatal? Also, how often do these knifing a happen? A hell of a lot more rarely than American shootings, that's for sure, hence Lucy's previous post.[8|]

I'm not promoting anything. I was just responding to your silly post with a bit of logic. logic is something you gunphobics need to try sometime. And I didn't mention guns either. Why can't ya arm yourself with a knife if you're a Chinese guy, though personally I would prefer a .45. OOPs.........[8D]

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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

So, BamaD didn't use this thread to promote an agenda, but you do? Lol, that's just funny XD so you think all the people who got stabbed should have had knives as well? Or guns? Because in that case what would have stopped the attackers from having guns? How many more people would have died because they would have been able to shoot more people at further distances? Think of it, if that many people were hurt by knives, how many more would have received gun shots which would have been fatal? Also, how often do these knifing a happen? A hell of a lot more rarely than American shootings, that's for sure, hence Lucy's previous post.[8|]

I'm not promoting anything. I was just responding to your silly post with a bit of logic. logic is something you gunphobics need to try sometime. And I didn't mention guns either. Why can't ya arm yourself with a knife if you're a Chinese guy, though personally I would prefer a .45. OOPs.........[8D]

I'm not going to even humour you with the fact that you are promoting this agenda based on your reply. So you think people should all carry knives then if they don't have access to guns? So they can slice each other up Walking Dead style in the middle of a train station? How more gruesome can you get? And I bet you would prefer a .45, and so would the extremists that killed all those people, thankfully they didn't.

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Horrible things are bound to happen, and we can only do the best we can as human beings to prevent them when we can.

Exactly, so arming yourself is the best thing you can do and horrible things won't likely happen to you.

So, BamaD didn't use this thread to promote an agenda, but you do? Lol, that's just funny XD so you think all the people who got stabbed should have had knives as well? Or guns? Because in that case what would have stopped the attackers from having guns? How many more people would have died because they would have been able to shoot more people at further distances? Think of it, if that many people were hurt by knives, how many more would have received gun shots which would have been fatal? Also, how often do these knifing a happen? A hell of a lot more rarely than American shootings, that's for sure, hence Lucy's previous post.[8|]

I'm not promoting anything. I was just responding to your silly post with a bit of logic. logic is something you gunphobics need to try sometime. And I didn't mention guns either. Why can't ya arm yourself with a knife if you're a Chinese guy, though personally I would prefer a .45. OOPs.........[8D]

I'm not going to even humour you with the fact that you are promoting this agenda based on your reply. So you think people should all carry knives then if they don't have access to guns? So they can slice each other up Walking Dead style in the middle of a train station? How more gruesome can you get? And I bet you would prefer a .45, and so would the extremists that killed all those people, thankfully they didn't.

I think you're the one promoting an agenda, some kind of gun control, eliminate SYG agenda. I simply disagree.

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I'm not sure where you came up with that idea. Would you mind showing your support for the assertion?

Come on, DS, your smarter and more educated than this. BamaD has in several times in the past pushed the 'Gun Nut' arguments on several threads. I'm ok, that he supports firearm usage and personal rights. I'm ok if he wants a serious discussion surrounding such arms. I'm not ok, when he uses a vehicle for serious discussion to push an political agenda by subtle means.
Had he come out, presented the story and asked frankly "how would we as a nation handle something like this?" In putting the idea it was knives, but asking had it been firearms would that have changed things? I think most of us still remember the history of events surrounding Sandy Hook. An just how raw the nerves were for most of us. That's the difference between a real discussion and what BamaD presented initially. An I'm calling him out for it.
Only a fool would say BamaD is totally innocent of his reasons for this thread's creation. You are not a fool.

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I think it is a tragedy that 33 people died regardless of weapon type.
Apparently some people are offended if someone is killed with something other than a gun.

Yeah right. Are you suggesting you started a thread on a story you dont believe and it had nothing to do with the fact it was carried out by knives.
Was it so much of a tradegy you havent said one word about the victims until now ?

Ken was the one questioning the particulars of the story, not Bama.

Err you best check who said he didnt trust the Chinese media version of events.
As for the man crush, now do I go for looks or brains....... hard one to call huh (And lets not forget you suggested it, not me.) [8D]

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An you are WWWWWWWWAYYYYYYY OOOOFFFFFFF TTTTOOOOOPPPPPIIIIICCCCCC......

No one has brought up gun control nor SYG.

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The OP is showing that guns are not the only weapon that can be used to murder, which is touted as a reason to not ban guns. So, your response would have been quite on target had you responded to the OP. It wasn't even a FR, as Bama had 2 responses to the post you've quoted within 30 minutes, and your response was 4 hours after Bama's second one.

No one on here is stating firearms are the only weapon that can be used for murder. That is the silliest argument in this thread!

You might want to try following the flow of the conversation so you don't miss important stuff. [8|]

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No, the OP's agenda is to promote the idea that if people were armed, things would have been much different.

I'm not sure where you came up with that idea. Would you mind showing your support for the assertion?

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The OP is showing that guns are not the only weapon that can be used to murder, which is touted as a reason to not ban guns. So, your response would have been quite on target had you responded to the OP. It wasn't even a FR, as Bama had 2 responses to the post you've quoted within 30 minutes, and your response was 4 hours after Bama's second one.

No one on here is stating firearms are the only weapon that can be used for murder. That is the silliest argument in this thread!

You might want to try following the flow of the conversation so you don't miss important stuff. [8|]

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No, the OP's agenda is to promote the idea that if people were armed, things would have been much different.

I'm not sure where you came up with that idea. Would you mind showing your support for the assertion?

Apparently it's some kind of mind reading trick. Now if they were truly good at it, they could be out picking lottery numbers but from what I have seen so far it would be a waste of time.