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Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 11:50:29 AM   
candypie


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So. I'm wanting to explore different fetishes and kinks lately to cater to more people for my phone sex services.

I've never once done any dominating. I don't even know what to say to a guy who wants to be dominated.
Should I just not even try and stick to what I know?
Are there things dommes ask/say to the men who wish to be dominated/humiliated? I feel like I would end up saying the same thing over and over again.
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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 11:51:30 AM   
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I think a more apt description would be: Subs can be service tops.



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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 11:52:11 AM   
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Some of the best Dommes out there have started as submissives or have switched, think about what would work on you...

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 12:23:41 PM   
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One of the forum regulars is a sub who does (or did) PSO work as a domme. If memory serves, she once said something about using her knowledge of what works for her as a sub when taking calls from male subs. Maybe that will work for you too, OP.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 12:34:15 PM   
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Of course after a point you'll be saying the same things repeatedly. Ut's not really D/s as much as kinky acting.

Go for it and see if you can make it work.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 1:04:21 PM   
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I think I'll go with Osides answer on this one.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 2:40:00 PM   
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I was a sub for a couple years, switched for a year, and now I've been all Domme for about two & a half years or so already. When I was still all sub, I did some service Topping & that's what got me to switching and becoming a Domme. I discovered I like the D/ side of the slash better. Now I can't imagine ever switching or being on the /s side again.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 6:14:52 PM   
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Yes of course. I'm a switch in my personal life (but to be honest I mainly top from the bottom) and I find it helps immensely because I can really put myself in my subs shoes. Ask your sub what they're into, and take it from there. It can be frustrating when someone says "do whatever you want to me" or something silly like that and in those scenarios you really just have to read them. Trial and error. Overall though it is definitely an advantage.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 6:52:07 PM   
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Yeah, I get that a lot. The whole "I'm into anything" and that really makes it difficult for me.

I don't know what to say, what might be too much, or too little. I'm sure being a domme is more than just demanding your sub to do things, right?

For example, during a phone conversation with a client it might go like:

Me: So sweetie, what are your kinks/fetishes?
Them: I like anything
Me: ....

So basically, I can't think of anything to say.

Another skill I seem to lack is knowing how to role play.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 7:13:18 PM   
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If I were in your shoes, I'd ask them if they have any experience. If they say yes, ask what they did and what they liked. If not, ask what sort of porn they watch and what they like about it. You're building a fantasy, so get them to explore their fantasies with you. Ask them if they've ever done any of the things you've done. Just don't tell them you've done them. Spin a story about "this one time when you did XYZ to a sub" and go from there.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 8:27:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

I think a more apt description would be: Subs can be service tops.


The ones who say they "like anything" just want you to talk dirty. Why else would they be paying some jacked up price for phone sex? Since they specifically chose a Dominant female, it's possible you're getting vanilla guys who are into a humiliation fetish and are too ashamed to admit it.

That doesn't mean they're all into humiliation, so if you cross the line by a guy not responding favorably to being called a "sissy slut", "ass/anal slut-whore", or "pathetic slave dog," in the course of your conversation, hopefully they'll drop a hint to steer your FemDom sex talk in another direction. Hard to say, since they may be expecting you to read their minds. I would also safely assume they've been watching a lot of porn and want to take the next step to talk to a live female.

Some random suggestions off the top of my head, geared more toward the types of vanilla men I've known:

- Begin by having them imagine knocking on your door, then your answering it decked out in fetish gear holding a riding crop. Order them to undress in front of you, fold their clothes into a neat little pile on a chair or table, then put a collar around their necks. You can lead them with a leash.
- Btw, most of these vanillas get terribly turned on imagining you have a Brazilian wax job. When you or they start on the subject of pussy, segue into face-sitting. Those who are into humiliation will get turned on by being told they don't deserve to eat your pussy, but you'll let them give you a rim job this time around.
- Foot Fetish. This is quite widespread. Includes boot-kissing and shoe fetish. Talk about them taking you shoe shopping to narrow this down. Ridiculously high 7-8" open-toe stilettos (bigger than the size of their dicks), more the black patent leather boots along with fishnet stockings & garters?
Once this has been determined (or excluded), you can proceed with describing your feet in the most attractive terms possible, how your toenails are painted a bright fire-engine red. With those who tell you right off the bat this is what they're into, then other than telling them what to do with your feet, and if they're into boots, describe how you want them to jack off on your boots, and then lick them clean.
- Throw in some bondage elements here and there, having them imagine you've tied them up or tied them to the bed. Be descriptive every step of the way. Mahogany wood bedposts, burgundy silk or satin sheets, what sexy outfit you're wearing, etc.
- Puny Dick syndrome. Either ask them to describe their dicks, or see how they respond to being verbally humiliated about how their dick is probably too small to satisfy you. Further along, this can lead to an imaginary cuckolding scenario.
- Sissification/Forced Feminization + Spanking. Tell them how you're going to make them strip down in front of you (CFNM-Clothed Female, Naked Male), wear girly pink panties while you spank them with your wooden hairbrush. When you're done, make them stand in the corner (wearing a butt plug is optional) for a few minutes, which you can't waste over the phone, so quickly move onto having them describe how this makes them feel, make them thank you for being disciplined, then tell them they can show their appreciation by getting down on their knees and orally servicing you.
- Anal Play. This might be the most difficult to get them to spit out, but often one of their hidden desires. Start off with sticking your finger up their ass, then with having them wear a (starter) butt plug. Graduate to larger size items, a dildo-vibrator, or even a strap-on. Make them imagine you are ordering them to suck on any phallic objects first prior to penetration.

That should get you started.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/3/2014 8:28:50 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: candypie

Yeah, I get that a lot. The whole "I'm into anything" and that really makes it difficult for me.

I don't know what to say, what might be too much, or too little. I'm sure being a domme is more than just demanding your sub to do things, right?

For example, during a phone conversation with a client it might go like:

Me: So sweetie, what are your kinks/fetishes?
Them: I like anything
Me: ....

So basically, I can't think of anything to say.

Another skill I seem to lack is knowing how to role play.



In that kind of scenario I would ask them what their weaknesses are. Sylvere makes a great point to ask them what their previous experience is, I love that idea. You can also ask about limits, etc. basically anything to get them to speak up and give more than one word answers. Don't worry, I felt like you did at first but it gets easier over time. It's not as intimidating as you might think.

Also, you can tell your subs that you are new to domination and willing to learn. This might help because even if you don't tell them this they could probably guess that you're new anyway, and a lot are eager to have someone new to experience. You will also come across as more genuine. It can also be good for new subs because some of them find experienced dommes intimidating.

And set your limits, too. For instance I don't do any extreme CBT or extreme anal training (excuse the graphic reply lol) because I'm not comfortable with it and I don't enjoy it as I prefer a more sensual approach. Figure out what you like and enjoy and focus your advertising on that. Get good at it, then move on to other things. Remember as well that your niche picks you you don't pick your niche, so start with what you're familiar with and then when you notice that most come to you for xyz service, narrow your efforts towards that kind of customer to attract more of them. There are lots of different niches.

Hope this helps :)

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/4/2014 3:13:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: candypie

Yeah, I get that a lot. The whole "I'm into anything" and that really makes it difficult for me.

I don't know what to say, what might be too much, or too little. I'm sure being a domme is more than just demanding your sub to do things, right?

For example, during a phone conversation with a client it might go like:

Me: So sweetie, what are your kinks/fetishes?
Them: I like anything
Me: ....

So basically, I can't think of anything to say.

Another skill I seem to lack is knowing how to role play.


If he tells you he's into anything, you just start out with something that you like, or tell him for not answering your question in a clear and concise manner, he's getting spanked, or has to lick your soles clean.... See how he reacts (it's the phone, so does the breathing change?) also as a task he will have to describe what he feels, or tell him you want to know his desires, what he thinks when he is a naughty boy and masturbates... You should get a ton of hints this way

But yeah, the "into anything" or "anything Mistress wants" it's a bit the "Do I look like a psychic, dude" feeling

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/4/2014 7:49:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: candypie

So. I'm wanting to explore different fetishes and kinks lately to cater to more people for my phone sex services.

I've never once done any dominating. I don't even know what to say to a guy who wants to be dominated.
Should I just not even try and stick to what I know?
Are there things dommes ask/say to the men who wish to be dominated/humiliated? I feel like I would end up saying the same thing over and over again.


You're a chic...you can do anything you want.

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RE: Can a sub be a domme? - 3/4/2014 7:51:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


quote:

ORIGINAL: candypie

So. I'm wanting to explore different fetishes and kinks lately to cater to more people for my phone sex services.

I've never once done any dominating. I don't even know what to say to a guy who wants to be dominated.
Should I just not even try and stick to what I know?
Are there things dommes ask/say to the men who wish to be dominated/humiliated? I feel like I would end up saying the same thing over and over again.


You're a chic...you can do anything you want.


And Lookie will pay....


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