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BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:03:25 PM)

As I pointed out earlier this is a point that even the Masons concede.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:31:45 PM)

If you take the yin and yang of Buddhism a little too seriously, you are not a Christian. The scale of God is a weighted scale that has a bias for one side over the other. This is not to say that this weighted scale prefers one side to the exclusion of the other. It is clear that at the present time God prefers conservatives, but it is not like the liberals carry no weight. If the conservatives do not concede that the liberals have a point, they will fall out of favor with God. Why? Because God is Truth. The liberals on the other hand are even more vulnerable. The scale is not in their favor. They must concede that the conservatives have a point also, but more so.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:40:27 PM)

I am offering a prescription for peace. The liberals must be willing to give up their Satanic practices. The conservatives need to learn to respect liberals.



RemoteUser -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:41:48 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Marc2b

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TA stands for teaching assistant http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teaching_assistant


Aw fuck . . . I thought it stood for tits and ass.


Depends on the teacher.

<- has dated a few teachers




BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:46:33 PM)

For example, is abortion more important to you than universal healthcare? Would you be willing to give up abortion for universal healthcare? I am not advocating a pact with the devil. I am advocating a bargain with God.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 10:56:51 PM)

If it is not already evident, my capacity to forgive others for their transgressions is high.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 11:11:54 PM)

The liberals on the other hand want abortion and universal healthcare. This is a prescription for polarization. Is it your intention to kill Christians? It is silliness and a prescription for going straight to Hell.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/6/2014 11:59:44 PM)

Moral relativism and Christianity are inherently incompatible. Christianity cannot be given its own special compartment. The reason for this is containment is impossible in the general case. I fear the world will try to do it without me and will fail because of it. The prosaic answer is the world is doomed.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 12:32:45 AM)

It is possible that there are things that are much too subtle for anyone else to ever figure out and they are going to get it just plain wrong. Some of what I am saying may seem like moral relativism. I suppose what I am proposing is an eccentric form of moral relativism. Eccentric as in off center as in biased. Perfect equality will be the death of man.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 12:41:10 AM)

I recall Saint Thomas Aquinas used the subtle asymmetry between evil and good in the universe as His proof of the existence of God. Does that sound like Buddhist yin and yang to you? Buddhist thinking posits that yin and yang are equal. The existence of and belief in this subtle asymmetry is central to Christianity. If you make peace with the devil, you are denying the existence of this subtle asymmetry, thus denying the existence of God.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 12:57:55 AM)

I am watching a documentary on Jacque Fresco, Future by Design. He does occasionally have these fabulous lines, "Some say they do not want to live in a dome, but you have been living in one all your life."

I would say Jacque Fresco and I are in agreement on at least one point. The world as it presently exists is screwed up, but there is a difference in our approaches though. It is the difference between Jacque Fresco and Albert Einstein. Jacque Fresco in his documentary film Future by Design explained that he once met Albert Einstein at his home. Jacque Fresco rejected Albert Einstein's approach. Jacque Fresco's approach is consistent with how the moral relativists/humanists approach the matter.

Foot Note

I doubt I got the Jacque Fresco quote down perfectly since I recalled it entirely from memory. I didn't spend the time to rewind the documentary and find exactly where he said it and went over it several times.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 1:15:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

It is possible that there are things that are much too subtle for anyone else to ever figure out and they are going to get it just plain wrong. Some of what I am saying may seem like moral relativism. I suppose what I am proposing is an eccentric form of moral relativism. Eccentric as in off center as in biased. Perfect equality will be the death of man.


What I suppose I am advocating is a form of moral relativism that is compatible with and based on the teachings of Christ. I am not merely advocating it, however. I achieved it.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 1:19:36 AM)

It will help make the ancient dream in the fifth prayer a reality.

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http://www.marypages.com/BrigittaEnglish.htm

..., Thou didst see at the same time, the great multitude of reprobates who would be damned for their sins, and Thou didst complain bitterly of those hopeless lost and unfortunate sinners. ...


But I am facing similar problems that Jacque Fresco did. The world sabotages itself.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 2:28:01 AM)

Now this enables me to explain in part, not yet in full, why I am here. I do not think of the world at large as being a great deal better than all of you. A little better, but not as great as many would like to believe.

Stop making war with each other. Accept that their is a puritanical spectrum, a Divine hierarchy, where each one of us has a place in it unless you are going to Hell of course. Pay homage to those who try to better themselves. The Church tries. The persecution isn't right. Accept that virginity for example gives the virgin a higher social standing instead of a lower one, etc. Some of this is going to be hard to accept. It is going to mean that being a Catholic gives you a higher social standing than being a Protestant. How many would be willing to accept that? It could make becoming a Catholic like become a priest in a sense. Something someone might ponder, Are you up to the challenge? Is this what God wants for you? Is this the role you are to play in the Divine Plan?

The way I see it is the way I believe God sees it. God once gave me a vision where He gave me a glimpse of my soul. Sadly, I was half and half. Fortunately, I was not hideous, but this cannot be said of humanity as a whole. Not hideous is doing pretty good relatively speaking.

Foot Note

Paying homage is more than paying respect.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 2:38:57 AM)

What I am talking about has a serious problem though and its pride. How many Protestants would be willing to swallow their pride? It is an interesting question. For example, is the Mormon church willing to do it?



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 2:57:29 AM)

Is there any reason why they would go for it? Yes, there is. It will help them attain their dreams.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 3:07:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

Not hideous is doing pretty good relatively speaking.


In absolute terms there is room for improvement.



GotSteel -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 3:59:24 AM)

Looks like the forums are back up for the moment, did we loose some posts?

Anyway, I seem to recall chatter making a comment about feeling depressed during a period of the word was something like "defiance".

It sounded stereotypical to me. Keep in mind there's a big difference between my position and the uncomfortable, angry state of questioning that chatter described. That sort of place is less healthy than many christian worldviews, in that sense Christianity is a partial solution to at least one of the problems it causes.



BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 5:27:24 AM)

Though God uplifts man, God also humbles man.



chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 5:43:47 AM)

Watch this video Benevolent M. There is a few messages in it for you. Seems there was an outage and posts came up missing. But watch this video, and when I have time I have few things I would like to say in response to your writings.
http://youtu.be/47dtFZ8CFo8



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