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BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 6:59:23 AM)
God is not evil and does not do evil. He appears evil unintentionally. It is a function of the harshness of the environment. When things are close to a worst case scenario, you will be called to be a hard line conservative because circumstances are harsh. As circumstances improve your capacity to be liberal improves. When God cracks the whip what you feel is the evil of your circumstances.

BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:11:48 AM)
The architecture of man only allows for so much improvement. There is a lot that we must just accept.

BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:13:57 AM)
As paradoxical as it may seem, by accepting our limitations we will advance.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:14:02 AM)
Did you watch the video? I am just curious. Did you?

BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:28:14 AM)
If the architecture of man is the problem, why not just change man? The problem with that is that in order to do that one must play God which takes us in the wrong direction. The solution is to better understand the architecture of man, the universe, and the nature of God.

BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:31:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chatterbox24 Did you watch the video? I am just curious. Did you? Are you offering me a box of chocolates?

BenevolentM -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:33:03 AM)
I am just curious.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:39:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM quote: ORIGINAL: chatterbox24 Did you watch the video? I am just curious. Did you? Are you offering me a box of chocolates? [sm=rofl.gif] I am sure I don't know what you mean.[sm=lol.gif] The video had nothing to do with being coo coo for cocoa puffs.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:45:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM On the left we have humanism. Doesn't God embrace humanism? In part, but not the sort of humanism that humanists practice. Humanism does not encourage man to be better, but instead less through bribery and says that man can supplant God, that man is God. Man is not God.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:55:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM What is my take on Genesis 3:15? I go along with the Church's interpretation that it is a Prophecy concerning Mary and is consistent with what Jesus said. The head is the Truth with a capital T and the foot is the truth with a lower case t. Satan attacks as the atheists do by pointing out that the Word of God is not fully consistent with the truth of this world. Deuteronomy 28 Vs. 13 amplified The Lord shall make you the head, and not the tail, and you shall be above only, and you shall not be beneath, if you heed the commandments of the Lord your God which I command you this day and are watchful to do them.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 7:58:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM As strange as it may seem if it makes too much sense, it isn't of God. What the atheists argue in an attempt to win converts is to try to reason with say Christians and explain to them that what they believe doesn't make complete sense. The truth and the Truth are not separate, they overlap, but not completely. Why should anyone believe this? quote: John 18:36 http://biblehub.com/nasb/john/18.htm Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm." In the film IQ Catherine accuses Ed of being a liar. They tumble in the grass. She kisses Ed, then bites his lip and slaps him while Ike looks on dumbfounded much like Pontius Pilate. Why? Because Catherine saw the truth as the world sees it. Einstein on the other hand saw the world as God sees it. She had yet to embrace the Truth. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. But if one doesn't believe the Bible there will be arguments.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:00:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM Why is it important that Catherine accomplish something that Einstein could not? It concerns Genesis 3:15. Why this film is capable of being used as an illustration of what I am discussing is unknown to me. No explaining it is there? As you say there is the truth and the Truth.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:02:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM If you follow the law of man to the t, you will persecute both the unholy and the Holy. Very true. Look at the condition of the world.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:05:56 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM If the law abandons the law of God, the law will persecute the Holy. IT will persecute more then the Holy, but people don't believe that. They cant see it because they don't believe it.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:09:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM What I am talking about has a serious problem though and its pride. How many Protestants would be willing to swallow their pride? It is an interesting question. For example, is the Mormon church willing to do it? How about a Catholic, they willing to swallow their pride too?

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:23:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM For example, is abortion more important to you than universal healthcare? Would you be willing to give up abortion for universal healthcare? I am not advocating a pact with the devil. I am advocating a bargain with God. That is what life is freedom of choice. Lets hope the right decisions are made and people are wise or get wise. Compromise can be a good thing or a bad thing. Live and let live to a certain point. Then well, there will no longer be compromise. That is the Truth. People sometimes have little appreciation for things. Just like this forum site. ITS FREE. Yet people complain about some things like they own it? ha. How silly is that? It could disappear tomorrow if they saw fit. When I first came here, I was in a very bad place, a few people were kind, but many attacked me like dogs with rabies. It was terrible for me. Like a swarm of bees, it was truly disgusting. Now me, I wasn't much better with what I was doing, but still, it was very hurtful. Anyway, its good advice to treat people kindly, cause you really don't know who is on the other side, what they are going through, and what they might be.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 8:44:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM God is not evil and does not do evil. He appears evil unintentionally. It is a function of the harshness of the environment. When things are close to a worst case scenario, you will be called to be a hard line conservative because circumstances are harsh. As circumstances improve your capacity to be liberal improves. When God cracks the whip what you feel is the evil of your circumstances. God is never evil. Man is evil. Who built nuclear bombs? Who made that EINSTEIN decision?[8\|] Man, made that choice. How about building houses on known areas of destruction? Man did that. Why? greed etc? Nice views? ha. Why do politicians speak out both sides of their mouths? compromise to get votes, to stay in office. DUH. Who makes the decisions to sin? MAN/WOMAN..............the old saying "The devil made me do it" Man brings on his own demise and then says "WHY WHY" hmmmm I wonder why.[8\|] Lets see we are polluting everything, we do everything we want when we want how we want to whom we want.......hmmmmmmmm I wonder why? Gee I cant figure this out. I mean how come all this weird stuff is happening? I mean how come a plane has disappeared and is the most baffling circumstance even with all the technology we have? hmmmm I wonder. Here a ping, there a ping, everywhere a ping ping. God is a disciplinarian.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 9:01:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM I am offering a prescription for peace. The liberals must be willing to give up their Satanic practices. The conservatives need to learn to respect liberals. Ahhhhhhhhhh what a beautiful word. Peace. I have it right now, complete utter peace.[:)]

freedomdwarf1 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 9:23:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chatterbox24 quote: ORIGINAL: BenevolentM I am offering a prescription for peace. The liberals must be willing to give up their Satanic practices. The conservatives need to learn to respect liberals. Ahhhhhhhhhh what a beautiful word. Peace. I have it right now, complete utter peace.[:)] And the fucking bible thumpers of all persuasions need to learn to shut the fuck up. There's been more wars and killings caused by the bible worshipers than anything and anyone else in the world. If man is evil, god made him didn't he?? Ergo, god himself and his followers are also evil.

chatterbox24 -> RE: What good is morality anyway? (4/7/2014 9:46:23 AM)
Borrowed from a sharing from Butch. Thank you. http://vimeo.com/87701971

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